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MertSerimer
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posted June 04, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well Mert
I am not an expert in Cupido lol
With the asteroids you must learn by doing.There is not much written on them so you must ferret out info as I am with you

Cupido is acting "love struck" for a purpose ,I suppose you could say.
It may be like the Cupid who shoots the arrow in someone's heart bit does it from a place of not really caring or feeling the love.
The Cupid could feel like or affection perhaps but SEEMS to put out that it is more than that for his own purposes.

I base this on someone I know who has it on the moon so you are NOT my only guinea pig ,Mert.
Just so you know


This explains why i am so suspectible.. (fast falling in love type). Also south Node in cancer, venus in sagittarus gives these traits too. I dont have Venus/Uransu aspects but my chart is behaving kinda it does

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posted June 04, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
Do you have any other asteroids conjuncting key places in the chart.
I know you have Kaali conjunct Pluto.IQ told you about this.
I have a feeling you have some good asteroids conjunct your ASC like Valentine,for example.I am feeling something very beautiful conjunct some key places.
It may be along the lines of Eros, Sappho or Valentine, Juno etc.
I can't tell which but I bet it is something.


which ones for example? there are over thousand ones so i dont know where to begin madam

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posted June 04, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok here it is,

My Valentine
-Conjuncts MC 3 degree
-Conjuncts Juno 1.3 degree
-Conjuncts Lilith 1.9 degree
-Trine Jupiter 1.3 degree
-Squares Moon less than one degree(Oh God why every single damn thing is making square on my moon?....)
-Conjuncts Venus 3.5 degree

My Sappho
-Retrogade in Taurus
-Trines Neptune and Uranus
-Squares Jupiter...

My Juno
-Conjuncts MC 3.5 degree
-Trines Jupiter
-Conjuncts Valentine
-Conjuncts lilith exact 0.04 degree HAHA
-Squares Moon

My Eros
-Saturn Trines it -> Lol
Saturn in my chart is in a point that nearly gets no bad aspect from anything... This explains why Saturn seems to work as benefic(except chiron)
-Chiron sextiles it
-Mercury Squares it


My Orcus
-Conjuncts Jupiter
-Trines Venus
-Trines Valentine,Lilith,JUno

My sedna conjuncts Sapphire.
they both Squares Orcus

I just wrote whatever i found .

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posted June 04, 2011 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Darling
I know there are a million asteroids lol


On my other computer ,I have a site that allows you to see what is exact on the key points of your chart.
I will get it when I get on that computer.

What does Orchus do? Sounds funky

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posted June 04, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know Mert, I could feel Valentine in you.You have a goodness that comes through to me
You have Valentine, prominently.
That is interesting .
I will think on how Valentine would work specifically in your chart and be back

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posted June 04, 2011 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You know Mert, I could feel Valentine in you.You have a goodness that comes through to me
You have Valentine, prominently.
That is interesting


But what is Valentine first of all?
I know/just learned it is a good thing but what is these asteroid all about ?

Edit: Ok, just saw your edited post now, waiting it.

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posted June 04, 2011 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Ok here it is,

My Valentine
-Conjuncts MC 3 degree
-Conjuncts Juno 1.3 degree
-Conjuncts Lilith 1.9 degree
-Trine Jupiter 1.3 degree
-Squares Moon less than one degree(Oh God why every single damn thing is making square on my moon?....)
-Conjuncts Venus 3.5 degree

My Sappho
-Retrogade in Taurus
-Trines Neptune and Uranus
-Squares Jupiter...

My Juno
-Conjuncts MC 3.5 degree
-Trines Jupiter
-Conjuncts Valentine
-Conjuncts lilith exact 0.04 degree HAHA
-Squares Moon

My Eros
-Saturn Trines it -> Lol
Saturn in my chart is in a point that nearly gets no bad aspect from anything... This explains why Saturn seems to work as benefic(except chiron)
-Chiron sextiles it
-Mercury Squares it


My Orcus
-Conjuncts Jupiter
-Trines Venus
-Trines Valentine,Lilith,JUno

My sedna conjuncts Sapphire.
they both Squares Orcus

I just wrote whatever i found .


Valentine
conjuncts Juno
Lilith
Trines Jupiter
Squares Moon

This is fascinating Mert.
I felt Valentine conjunct Juno in you .
Valentine is sacrificial love.Juno is all the best things you would want in a marriage partner.
These together show a person who could commit to another in the deepest ,most sacrificial way.
I think this is one of the deepest parts of you Mert.
Does that ring true?


Now, Jupiter enlarges all of this.
I think I felt it so strongly cuz the aspect was enlarged by Jupiter so was more palpable.

I learned how to feel Jupiter's enlarging things by feeling Doux Reve's Venus which is so prominent due to a conjunction with Jupiter.



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posted June 04, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Mert
Valentine is the type of love that would throw himself in front of a bus for his beloved.
It is the kind of love which would give an organ-my definition

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posted June 04, 2011 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Valentine conjuncts the MC and squares moon.

Hmm--conjunct the MC may be interesting even though it is 3 degrees.An angle may allow for more degrees.

Your true love may bring YOU to a more prominent position in your life.You may marry up lol
Or else Valentine/Juno on the MC may be your need for a respectable person to love ,someone YOU can really respect.
This may be it.
Perhaps ,this aspect is your true love.Perhaps Lilith in there is raw sexual passion as well as the true and abiding sacrificial love.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 04, 2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Commitment and Sacrifice..... Yeah i used to have these traits for the ones i love. I would always think i do everything for them. In fact i do everything my loved ones but not romantical ones. For my best friend, for My family and some relatives and also for a high population i sacrifice myself gladly. But not romantical ones. It is nice to hear that i have something inside like this. But you know i have intimacy,trust or "love" issues. What you said "These together show a person who could commit to another in the deepest ,most sacrificial way....Valentine is the type of love that would throw himself in front of a bus for his beloved.
It is the kind of love which would give an organ..." will it ever be true? I lost faith on that. I lost ability to love unconditionally. I don't think it will come back but maybe who knows.. I am young and there is a still big life ahead on me...

Yes actually in my marriage partner i am looking every trait. Success,Joi de vivre, Lust, Aggression, Emotinality and High IQ. Otherwise partner can't keep up with me.

So lilith and Juno/Valentine Conjunction is a like paradox? I always dreamed me in the future where i will be in a situation that i have to choose between good and bad. These type of flims especially really affected me when i was younger. In fact i sometimes ask people this question :"What'd you do when you have to choose between "5000 people or your most beloved ones?. Do you have guts to sacrifice your lover for 5000 most potential good for humanity people?.....

So i can't say an exact thing about what you said. I think i will see in 10-12 years... It is too early to talk maybe. But what you said is true, Personal relationships affect me so i find the "one" i would definitely have better career.!!! It is definite. Or just 5th house can make my career really good though .

What else do you can say?

Thx a lot i am repeating lady..

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posted June 04, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Did not read your last post but will write my ideas.
BTW I like how you call me lady

You have moon sq Juno and moon square Valentine
This again repeats the theme of WANTING deep love cuz you have these asteroids aspected where some people do NOT and having your emotions pull back.


You are having the same theme repeat several times.That tells us it is an important theme for you.
It is good to know what we have to struggle with.
Look at Jojo.She found herself an Aries Venus guy lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 04, 2011 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did not understand your last question Darling?
Please repeat it.

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 04, 2011 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your basic nature is sacrificial to the one(s) you love.
This would agape love ,perhaps.
The Greek language has many words for love.We have one lol
I think you will have the potential for the highest form of love Mert

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 04, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have an unaspected Chiron ,too, like Northern Lad.
I need to find out IF this counts as an unaspected planet or not.
You can read my description to him in Personal Readings, Mert

I need to ask someone about this and be back with the info lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 04, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what should i do with these moon squares? How can i survive from these circle?
I have to just face it i guess, not avoiding it...

By the way chiron is in a weird position.

Chiron conjunct SN is the aspect that is hard to deal with it

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posted June 04, 2011 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
So what should i do with these moon squares? How can i survive from these circle?
I have to just face it i guess, not avoiding it...

By the way chiron is in a weird position.

[b]Chiron conjunct SN is the aspect that is hard to deal with it [/B]


How do you feel or see Chriron conjunct SN Mert?
About the moon squares---let me think on that

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 05, 2011 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You spent so much time on my natal chart i don't know how to thank you. If you weren't living in "Pluto/house next to NickiG", i'd definitely come and find you my lady =)).

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posted June 05, 2011 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
You spent so much time on my natal chart i don't know how to thank you. If you weren't living in "Pluto/house next to NickiG", i'd definitely come and find you my lady =)).



Even though it is virtual, you are my charming honey

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

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posted June 05, 2011 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mert
I am having so much fun doing your chart. I love when you share how you feel the aspects!

I am gonna look at your Mars now.
It is in Gemini and your only Air planet.
How does Mars in Gemini feel?
I cannot imagine Mars here.I have Sun,Merc and Venus.
They feel nice in Gemini.Mars and Moon seem like they would feel bad .
What do you think Mert?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 05, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have another prominent square Mert.It is Mars square ASC(1 degree)
This may make manifesting your drive hard.IOW, you may WANT to do something but hesitate ,procrastinate or give up.

This is interesting in that it could hook in with the other squares.

Does this make you not go after THE girl you like?
Do you go after ones who are easier but not your first choice?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 05, 2011 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Mars in the 3rd--Gemini's natural house so it strengthens your Gemini traits.
You are a great communicator.I can see that here!

This is interesting.You have Mars BiQuintile Neptune.
This means you will have talents in the "other" dimension which Neptune rules.This would be psychic realm,music and imagination.

Since Mars is in the 3rd,perhaps you could be a science fiction writer or a writer of some sort.
What do you think? Do you love to write?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 05, 2011 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Mars in the 3rd--Gemini's natural house so it strengthens your Gemini traits.
You are a great communicator.I can see that here!

This is interesting.You have Mars BiQuintile Neptune.
This means you will have talents in the "other" dimension which Neptune rules.This would be psychic realm,music and imagination.

Since Mars is in the 3rd,perhaps you could be a science fiction writer or a writer of some sort.
What do you think? Do you love to write?



I love to write and i adore science-fiction, fantastic scenarious. But i would never use my writing skills - if i have - to earn money or something. I have good imagination since pieces traits but neither my current study does not allow me to use these skills nor it requires... SO it may be just a hobby.
Dunno, maybe in the future.. time will tell.

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

You have another prominent square Mert.It is Mars square ASC(1 degree)
This may make manifesting your drive hard.IOW, you may WANT to do something but hesitate ,procrastinate or give up.

This is interesting in that it could hook in with the other squares.

Does this make you not go after THE girl you like?
Do you go after ones who are easier but not your first choice?


Haha this part... Well yeah i never chase generally. But you know the saying - the one who runs away, get chased.- So this unshowed attention help me to get chased . But you are right also, but sometimes i just don't chase the girl i like even i want to. I always procrastinate. This is why i love fast beginning relationships. Also in Sun conjunct Venus description, it writes "People with these aspect use their charm to get the attractors .. They don't usually chase or follow." It fits me exactly. Still this passiveness is not something i want. Because the ones who usually fits me in the "emotional way" always hesitate to begin a relationship so fast and they want to know the person before they begin sth. Since i dont chase, i usually don't get the girl that matches good in an emotional way.. because i like fast beginners... Here comes to paradox again...These squares are harder than oppositions....

I have also Jupiter bi-quintile Uranus.
As i remember Mercury quintiles Ceres.

Mars in third does me argumentative a lot. Sometimes I argue a lot even without recognizing it.

Mars in retrogade also. So energy is reversed in some way.

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posted June 05, 2011 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm Mert
Fascinating info
I am gonna think on it and come back

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 05, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmmm Mert
Fascinating info
I am gonna think on it and come back


In addition, Mars in gemini makes someone resistant to downs of life. Good at finding solutions and good at using fingers, hands.. at least this is what description says. It also gives ability to maintain two-love affairs at the same time. I have never done it but i know i can fall in love with different people at tthe same time.

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In addition, Mars in gemini makes someone resistant to downs of life. Good at finding solutions and good at using fingers, hands.. at least this is what description says. It also gives ability to maintain two-love affairs at the same time. I have never done it but i know i can fall in love with different people at tthe same time.

A dual lover

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

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