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Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 03:17 PM
  
Mert
I did not KNOW that it was hard for anyone to access Saturn sign energy. Is THAT a known fact lol ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 03:20 PM
I thought I just came up with the theory  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 03:28 PM
I got an interesting one for this fine Monday, Mert  Nessus square Neptune.
This may make it hard for you to access your Nessus.
This makes sense cuz you FEEL so light vs Dark.
IOW -you feel so Venus/Jupiter rather than Pluto.
Do you feel like you cannot face your dark nature?
For me,THIS is my single biggest problem lol ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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posted June 07, 2011 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I got an interesting one for this fine Monday, Mert Nessus square Neptune.
This may make it hard for you to access your Nessus.
This makes sense cuz you FEEL so light vs Dark.
IOW -you feel so Venus/Jupiter rather than Pluto.
Do you feel like you cannot face your dark nature?
For me,THIS is my single biggest problem lol
Hmm Yeah it definitely makes me feel so light vs Dark . I am not afraid to face with my dark side but rather angry and ****** of that i can feel it and see it on myself..... I never thought me as a good man but rather moderator also Lord of Karma . I feel Venus/Jupiter because since 3 personal planets are in Jupiter's sign also my main sign's and my ascendant's co-ruler is jupiter. So i have tons of Jupiter also venus traits since it conjuncts Sun.Also mutual reception between sun-jupiter make me have lots of leo traits , And i am having Uranus trine sun, Uranus sextile Mars transits which can make me joi de vivre maybe . IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 05:16 PM
Mert
I don't understand what you mean,exactly.Can you face your dark side?
Do you feel you are "bad" for having dark impulses/feelings/thoughts or do you accept them as just being part of human nature? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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posted June 07, 2011 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
I don't understand what you mean,exactly.Can you face your dark side?
Do you feel you are "bad" for having dark impulses/feelings/thoughts or do you accept them as just being part of human nature?
I can face it. Problem is i am angry why i have to face it or why i can access my dark nature,feelings easily. ı read somewhere that pluto 8th house people have to accept OTHER's People dark side and admit that all of them have even a little, if they want to solve their trust and dark vs light issues. Damn. I am currently(just started) having Sun in 4th transit which i hate most. It is like i return to my nest.. It is not like my nature... I can't even talk joyfully. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 05:34 PM
Awww Mert
Is English your native language may I ask?
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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MertSerimer
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posted June 07, 2011 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww Mert
Is English your native language may I ask?
Of course not as you see lady =)) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 05:58 PM
You speak very good English for a native speaker  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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MertSerimer
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posted June 07, 2011 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You speak very good English for a native speaker
haha gracias =)). Maybe it is because my education history was all about english science,history and math lessons which clearly forced me to have better english . IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 06:28 PM
 Mert------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 07:04 PM
Mert
Your Mars conjuncts my Venus.Where do you live ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 07, 2011 07:07 PM
Your Kaali conjuncts My ASC.That is interesting as we are sharing deep energy/Kundalini by doing the readings.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Jesus
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MertSerimer
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posted June 08, 2011 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
Your Mars conjuncts my Venus.Where do you live
Isn't Man's venus conjuncting woman's mars better ? quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Kaali conjuncts My ASC.That is interesting as we are sharing deep energy/Kundalini by doing the readings.
By the way, What does sun conjunct Narcissus give to me? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 07:08 AM
No Mert
The man's Mars conjunct the woman's Venus is better cuz it is the natural order of things  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 07:12 AM
I am thinking about your Narcissus question Mert Darling------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 07:40 AM
I am gonna ponder on it today.Narcissus is a complicated one.
I am gonna have to come back and ask you some questions.
Just wanted to mention something before I go to do yoga.
I meditate on the charts while I do and come back and answer.
I found my answer by helping you find yours.
I see HOW multifaceted you are ,Mert.
You are the loving and charming Venus, the joyful Jupiter, the primal pluto, the Cassanova Cupid.
My mother taught me that there were black and white people.
She is a therapist if you didn't know  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:14 AM
Ok Mert Sweetie Lets talk about Narcissus
This is one's sense of self. One's sense of self is a delicate balance in that how one views oneself MAKES one's life. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
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Jesus
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:17 AM
It is probably one of the biggest factors in having a happy life or a miserable one.
One needs to be right sized i.e have humility .
Humility is JUST seeing oneself as one is.
It is NOT humility to have low self esteem.That is really pride.It is not humility to think people are there to serve you, that is pathological Narcissism.
So, to get to the Asteroid--let me ask you--tell me about your sense of self.
Do you have a basic confidence in yourself? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:41 AM
I thin Narcissus is about learning the lesson of PROPER humility.
Low self esteem is pride.It is saying I am worse than others,worse than I am .
It is saying God made a mistake when he made me. I know more than God cuz *I* would have made myself different,better.Pathological Narcissism is when you have little sense of self and you want to encroach on others to fill you up.
You take hostages of other people to build yourself up in some way. Many N's(Narcissicts) put down others to make themselves feel better. However, Narcissism is all about the right sized sense of self--to put it in a nutshell lol ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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posted June 08, 2011 09:32 AM
so what you are trying to say is i am both dark and light at the same time?Self-esteem was always a problem for me, i may be a narcisst as you say in your last post. So i don't have basic confidence and its answer lies in my child era. I was very very fat, i am humiliated and mocked a lot. I did not create my self-confidence, others did. Since many squares to ascendant is an obvious answer for me not having full self confidence. But i don't consider me as a multifaceted but rather a guy who is struggling balance and harmonize energies lies within due to having both side's energies. It is like having woman's hormones while you are a man. It is like god created me but this is not my escape route still i have free will i can choose the right thing and eventually i will  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
so what you are trying to say is i am both dark and light at the same time?Self-esteem was always a problem for me, i may be a narcisst as you say in your last post. So i don't have basic confidence and its answer lies in my child era. I was very very fat, i am humiliated and mocked a lot. I did not create my self-confidence, others did. Since many squares to ascendant is an obvious answer for me not having full self confidence. But i don't consider me as a multifaceted but rather a guy who is struggling balance and harmonize energies lies within due to having both side's energies. It is like having woman's hormones while you are a man. It is like god created me but this is not my escape route still i have free will i can choose the right thing and eventually i will
 Mert
I am so glad to have you for my friend. I will be back ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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posted June 08, 2011 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see HOW multifaceted you are ,Mert.
You are the loving and charming Venus, the joyful Jupiter, the primal pluto, the Cassanova Cupid.
My mother taught me that there were black and white people.
I sometimes think the answer of what would it be if i had one of the BİG SEVEN SİNS. I always answered (but unsurely) it as "lust"... but recently (it started 2 months ago actually)my answer changed into "pride", which is afflicted "leo". I may have leo traits as much as sagit traits. I am so conceited that i can't admit to even my self that i "love" my lover. I see loving someone(romatically) as me being under him/her if she DOES NOT LOVE me. So me trusting and admitting that i love someone is harder than a nationality does . "
You are the loving and charming Venus, the joyful Jupiter, the primal pluto, the Cassanova Cupid." I think it is nice. It makes me real human. nearly i have all traits in me. I am argueable, loveable, hateable, manipulater, passionate,intuitive, empathic, generous,joyful,caring, egoist etc... At least i am real but what about others ? are they enough brave to admit that ?
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 02:08 PM
Wow Mert
You said a lot.I will need to think about all you said and be back.
Thanks for being so real  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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posted June 08, 2011 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow Mert
You said a lot.I will need to think about all you said and be back.
Thanks for being so real
Because you will never see me in real life and noone can prove "i am actually" that Mert IP: Logged |
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