posted June 01, 2011 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
How do you know if you're taken over by an alien?
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I'd assume that you would lose sense of self and sense of control of yourself - since in theory someone else would be controlling you.

If they are not controlling you, they would only be able to influence you, in which case you would still have the ability to resist. In which case your actions would still be your responsibility (because you would have "let it happen").

So strictly speaking if I was taken over by an alien, I suspect that I would say and do things that I would later have no recollection of, experience black-outs and déjà-vus, perform actions that I simply cannot explain.

Neither of which apply to me. I can always perfectly explain why I do the things I do and say the things I say and if ever I cannot control my actions and get black-outs, it's more likely that I am under the influence of alcohol. And for me to have black-outs, I would have to have had a whole lot of alcohol.

No doubt you're going to say that I have no idea what I am on about, but I don't mind. Just my opinion.

posted June 01, 2011 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have never known anyone with Schizophrenia so I can't comment on that. I have known people with all sorts of things from neurotics to sociopaths to borderlines.
In my experience, there has never been a very neurotic person and/or a psychotic person with a consistently great sense of humor such as Coffee has.
Sociopaths are the exception .They have a fantastic sense of humor

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LOL!

First of all, I have to admit, schizophrenics terrify me. There is just no getting to them and you just never know how they are going to react. The most irrational things seem logical to them and vice versa and sometimes - I admit - it makes me wonder if they really do see something that we just don't, which does exist.

Also, I've known a few neurotic people who had a great sense of humor, fewer borderliners. The latter ones don't seem to have any sense of humor, or maybe I've just been meeting the wrong ones

Sociopaths, on the other hand, need to have a great sense of humor Humor is charming, and "charming" should be a sociopath's middle name if it isn't already!

posted June 01, 2011 10:27 AM            

You can tell because your reply can seem illogical, and maybe you feel a little mad at something as you let yourself be taken over. Like you wanted to fight it, but couldn't.

posted June 01, 2011 10:38 AM            

My last ex had psychoses induced by his chronic drinking habits and subsequent brain damage (or possibly latent bi-polar). His brother has psychoses due to genetic bi-polar disorder. After living with my ex for 4 years I have developed a fear of such behaviour. Although I know and realize psychoses can be harmless to an extent. Contrary to my ex and his brother, my uncle for example never harmed anyone while he was psychotic.

And he also has a great sense of humor, which is more than can be said about my ex

posted June 01, 2011 10:45 AM            

One big factor is you hear the person stuttering, as the alien talking over wants to say something, but the person being taken over wants to say something instead. Like a fight to see who speaks first. You wouldn't really know you're been taken over, unless you are aware.

posted June 01, 2011 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
Well, let's just say I know what I'm afraid of, and I'm afraid of psychoses because people who experience them are generally impulsive and might react completely different to how they would in a normal situation.

My last ex had psychoses induced by his chronic drinking habits and subsequent brain damage (or possibly latent bi-polar). His brother has psychoses due to genetic bi-polar disorder. After living with my ex for 4 years I have developed a fear of such behaviour. Although I know and realize psychoses can be harmless to an extent. Contrary to my ex and his brother, my uncle for example never harmed anyone while he was psychotic.

And he also has a great sense of humor, which is more than can be said about my ex

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To my understanding they have found no genetic sequence or standalone gene for bipolar disorder and they have been trying for a long time. If you are bipolar your child has a 1/10 chance of becoming bipolar themselves. That's a very low statistic. I'm not saying there isn't a genetic precedence. I tend to believe most schizophrenics and bipolar are suffering from kundalini which expresses differently in different people. Regardless, identical twins will end up with one having full blown bipolar with psychotic episodes and the other will be normal. We cannot focus on genes alone. There are certain traumas bipolars and schizophrenics tend to experience.

Talking about spiritual emergencies and psychosis compared to bipolar/schizophrenia.. he starts to talk about trauma in spiritual emergency at about 3 and a half minutes.. http://www.youtube.com/user/bipolar orwakingup?oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fbipolarorwakingup&has_verified=1#p/u/3/v1Cwpx8inKY

posted June 01, 2011 02:00 PM            

He was rolling around on the floor trying to kill the "insects" all over him. He really did believe insects were all over him.

He scared me as a child, I remember him yelling at the radio because he thought they were trying to take over his mind, literally.

He is on medicine for it and hes better now, however if he forgets his meds you can start to see it come back out.

Perhaps researching illuminati is not a therapeutic thing for you to do coffee, especially if its making you see snakes.

How about watching the sunrise or sunsets for a change, or something that has nothing to do with conspiracy theories.

Its up to you in any event.

posted June 01, 2011 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
My uncle has schizophrenia, I remember seeing him as a child in a padded room with a straight jacket on.

He was rolling around on the floor trying to kill the "insects" all over him. He really did believe insects were all over him.

He scared me as a child, I remember him yelling at the radio because he thought they were trying to take over his mind, literally.

He is on medicine for it and hes better now, however if he forgets his meds you can start to see it come back out.

Perhaps researching illuminati is not a therapeutic thing for you to do coffee, especially if its making you see snakes.

How about watching the sunrise or sunsets for a change, or something that has nothing to do with conspiracy theories.

Its up to you in any event.

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I appreciate the Sun and Moon more than anyone I know.

I do not see these snakes, but feel them, tightening around my neck. Only when I talk about these things or research 'The illuminati'

It really takes an effed up mind to think that I'm making this up. If you think that of me, I'm sorry for you.
It also takes an effed up mind to think that these people are actually experiencing these things. Who the hell wants to believe something like this can happen?

With my experiences, I can see how your relative may have not been joking about the insects, though I'm open to the fact he could have an imagination. Just imagine if he was having those insects, and you passed him off as crazy.

All I am is an astrologer who claims to have a better working astrology method than the actual top astrologers out there. Someone who goes against the grain of societal thought. Just ask yourself why smoking is the biggest killer of all, and you get these politicians who do not ban it. That is what society gives out. Is that a sign of a good society?

I guess these secret societies all play and have no witchcraft or voodoo magic in play at all. Some are just so ignorant to think that aliens don't exist at all, never mind down here. After all the way you've travelled on this earth, the things you've seen, especially when you look in a mirror, some people still think it's not possible that invisible snakes can be put on a person. That is the saddest thing of all.

Some just don't want to believe. It's easy enough to label someone psychotic than get into your head that these strange things can happen. It's also VERY hard to understand that most who are rich, famous or important can speak via telepathy. I wonder where the different accents come from when I speak with these people, using my mind. Is it my own mind working over time?

There are people who take over others in order to control me, and then there are people who are in so much DENIAL that they cannot process this information. Maybe because they don't want to believe it.

Many of the group I mention are too selfish to tell you this as they would get r@ped or their family and friends would be punished. I don't give a sh1t anymore. Sorry, I mean that I really give a sh1t, because there are many in that group who are bullied day after day with people turning a blind eye.

Even the people who tell others are controlled in some way, very much like David Icke is, I'm guessing. There is evil in this world and people are too selfish, not scared, of telling people about this evil.
They choose the path of the devil.

I will say this again. Important people, celebrities and rich people are all in a club where they can speak via telepathy.

posted June 01, 2011 02:57 PM            

I'm not saying I completely understand or see everything Coffee says, but astral snakes are very real. I do think it's best not to dwell on it however and focus more on self acceptance and improvement.

Yes, this world is very hellish.. If we were all aligned with our personal truths it wouldn't be.

posted June 01, 2011 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
When I went to see a shaman, he said I had an astral snake on me and I saw it claivoyantly when he sucked it out of me and spit it back down the hole in the ground that we had journeyed out of. Robert bruce says astral snakes and astral spiders are some of the more difficult entities to deal with. Robert Bruce currently has some of the best instructional information on astral projecting and has been dealing with entities his entire life. He is not psychotic and is rather distinguished in his field.

I'm not saying I completely understand or see everything Coffee says, but astral snakes are very real. I do think it's best not to dwell on it however and focus more on self acceptance and improvement.

Yes, this world is very hellish.. If we were all aligned with our personal truths it wouldn't be.

In a neuroscientific sense, what the radio says or advertises creates circuits in your brain and can create emotional triggers to say go to mcdonald's for coffee and a mcmuffin. There is an aspect of control and I would take that symbolically. That's the whole purpose of a radio commercial, and if we believe that illuminati owns the music industry that would be their intent. The bugs may be entities or something symbolic of his mind and his own blockages.

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Mochai what you are alluding too is actually a modern theme in our society

Who is responsible for an individuals actions?

the psychologist would say the individual, and so would the shaman, as the shaman would have to believe in the mystic principle that we get what we deserve.....as he does believe in karma, and other spiritual principles that i've studied in shamanism taht exist in one form or another...

the behaviorlist would blame nature.....conditioning

the sociologist society, as you say i tend to agree with the sociologist point of view but a shaman would never agree to that because it would be far too limiting to have such a belief system in shamanism....as the shaman must belief, if his spiritual practice is to be valid, that the individual is as powerful as a god, if not God himself.

the lawyer, the law or the breaking of the law

every type of education has it's own foundation of belief for responsiblity, even indirectly....

posted June 01, 2011 03:30 PM            

perhaps blaiming commercials to the shaman, is what is making that snake

I know a shaman and when you have a problem the shaman goes inside of you to change it, he doesn't blame society, because that renders him powerless in terms of his own mystic principles...

posted June 01, 2011 03:52 PM            

Yes I agree that we are one, nor can we ever really be separate, but we carry individual karma/blockages and have our own path.

Most people who go to see a shaman don't get to see the shamanic journey or aftermath and I did not see it from his perspective. Matter of fact I dragged him into a different shamanic tunnel. That's not a normal experience one should expect to have. I had had two dismemberments the months before that but I am not a shaman, nor do I want to get into a debate about it because I get shaman arguing with me from both sides of the fence telling me things that disagree with the other when I don't agree with either of them to which causes varying degrees of animousity. I'm well versed on many perspectives in shamanism. Sure shaman are wiser than average but they're still incarnating.

posted June 01, 2011 05:10 PM            

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All I am is an astrologer who claims to have a better working astrology method than the actual top astrologers out there. Someone who goes against the grain of societal thought. Just ask yourself why smoking is the biggest killer of all, and you get these politicians who do not ban it. That is what society gives out. Is that a sign of a good society?

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Politicians are starting to ban it as the tobacco industry grows weak because the companies that own the tobacco farms have moved on to more profitable ventures (ie: Altria owns Phillip Morris who makes Marlboro cigarettes. Altria also owns all Kraft products). It's actually pretty freaking obvious, and you don't need stupid "illuminati" theories to make it make sense.

posted June 01, 2011 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
I'm going to share a great spiritual secret.

The seemingly meaningless moral trials and tribulations of the average man are greater on a spiritual and soulful level than the greatest scientific breakthrough of an era, and the soul and spirit are greater than an earthly endeavor no matter how many behind it.

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posted June 01, 2011 05:25 PM            

*puts on patriot pin to show her support of the corporations*

But fluoride is good for your teeth! We should all radiate ourselves before we board flights for safety! After all, the terrorists are out to get us! *eats chemicals and dies of cancer*

Save the babies! Support corporate despotism and violent brutal regimes all over the world to further our agenda! That's what we do because our government cares

posted June 01, 2011 05:42 PM            

At this point of realization We all become God or realize that we are God and at the same Moment, God realizes that he is Us. There is unification and bliss and everything will make sense or become whole.

The only way that we can become God or realize that we are God is through each and everyone becoming a pure representation of Unconditional Love and Acceptance. This is the inevitable conclusion of our fate.

posted June 01, 2011 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Politicians are starting to ban it as the tobacco industry grows weak because the companies that own the tobacco farms have moved on to more profitable ventures (ie: Altria owns Phillip Morris who makes Marlboro cigarettes. Altria also owns all Kraft products). It's actually pretty freaking obvious, and you don't need stupid "illuminati" theories to make it make sense.

The western world (America especially) is becoming a plutocracy. Corporations run the world. Nothing "secret" about it. I actually get ****** off when people spout off conspiracy theories because they're all stupid and blind you to what's really going on. No, I'm not being taken over by aliens. This is what I think 24/7.

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Corporations (Capricorn) are secret society owned. Masons illuminati, scientology, whatever...no evidence to back it up, I might add, just guessing.
Pluto into Capricorn may add to the focus on corporation right now, even though the corporations 11th ruler is in it's 1st house (Pluto)