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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 03:42 PM I am sooo tired of feeling I can't be angry or I will look bad. I am so tired of feeling I can't make a mistake or I am "bad" Is there anything in the chart that makes people this way or is it just being screwed up ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 03:47 PM Ok I will start Nessus in the 7th house--you don't own it Venus in the 7th--your love extends to others but not yourself Saturn in Scorpio--primal energy is hard.This includes anger You are afraid of primal anger .You think the world will explode if you let it out. People will gasp and shock and run away from you leaving you isolated and alone and you will die ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3028 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010	posted June 07, 2011 03:55 PM U mean image-conscious? Strong,even afflicted Venus,Sun. Cappies bear this reputation. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 03:57 PM Well Venus How do I describe it? Hmmm not sure if I can more than I have I have Pluto conjunct the MC.Would THAT factor in here? Any opinions? ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3076 From: Registered: May 2011	posted June 07, 2011 04:10 PM ... IP: Logged
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3028 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010	posted June 07, 2011 04:12 PM oh,no! Pluto on Mc has goal,and goal alone. Perfection by itself isn't at all on strong Plutonian's mind. But,as a part of achieving an absolute,it is! Power,truth,transformation and evolution-those r themes which occupy Plutonian's mind. Perfection can get there,too,but as a passing notion,side-effect. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 04:13 PM quote: Originally posted by sand: i don't go out when i don't feel so great. i do have sun and venus in 7th. i have the same as you venus in 7th saturn in scorp but i don't share you exact sentiments. i also don't think i'm that much of a perfectionist than a vainpot. virgo is the sign i associate with perfectionism and i have nothing in virgo. Sand Please put your chart up again in Personal readings addressed to me. Sorry about the previous mix up. I was not right in the head ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
JohnFKennedy Knowflake Posts: 507 From: US Registered: Aug 2009	posted June 07, 2011 04:16 PM I have Venus in the 7th and I don't feel that I give my love to others without regard to myself.. if anything I think its evenly distributed, since Venus is in its home in the 7th, it blossoms. Mine is even in detriment in Aries but I still feel its a very strong and healthy part of my chart. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 04:16 PM quote: Originally posted by sand: i don't go out when i don't feel so great. i do have sun and venus in 7th. i have the same as you venus in 7th saturn in scorp but i don't share you exact sentiments. i also don't think i'm that much of a perfectionist than a vainpot. virgo is the sign i associate with perfectionism and i have nothing in virgo. I have so many questions to ask you that I figured --just post the chart if you will take another chance on it ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 1010 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 07, 2011 04:27 PM Ami, I think it's Saturn retro on the asc (I have this also, and I often feel this way). Remember, Saturn restricts and puts limits. It has standards and rules. I think this is how it manifests itself when he's strong in the chart. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 04:32 PM Maira It hurts soooo badly ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 1010 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 07, 2011 04:44 PM I know sweetie, I'm sorry! You will get over this!! A wise man once told me that there is no such thing as "MUST" in life. There are only "it would be good for me to...", "I want to...", "I would love to...". Since then, I remind myself constantly about this. And I allow myself to make mistakes. Some of the time And I found a great anti-Saturnian quote (I'm talking about the bad side effects, Saturn also has a positive side ): "Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never-haves, then listen close to me... Anything can happen, child. Anything can be." -Shel Silverstein. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 04:52 PM Maira ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
allouette Knowflake Posts: 85 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted June 07, 2011 05:44 PM afflicted Saturn would be no1, and then all the personal planets with challenging aspects, and when I say challenging aspects I particularly think of squares. the square for me is the symbol of perfection seeking behavior planets in Libra, or in 7h - because you want people to like you, it"s not a real drive but still it can give you the feeling taht you must be perfect and "act" in a socially accepted way planets in Capricorn, or in 10H - self doubt IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 1010 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 07, 2011 05:59 PM IP: Logged
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 555 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011	posted June 07, 2011 06:03 PM What Things in the Chart Make you Feel You Must Be Perfect? My entire chart. I am kidding. I have no idea if I have a good chart or not. IP: Logged
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 2241 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009	posted June 07, 2011 08:24 PM I think a mix of Capricorn and Aquarius. Capricorn is said to be the one who likes to do things to fit in with what society says we should do, to keep up with the jones'. Making sure you maintain a professional image as possible. Aquarius, despite seeming different, is all about friends and social circles in a way that is similar, but different to Capricorn, that I can only guess. Going along with your friends, what they think. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 07, 2011 08:37 PM quote: Originally posted by Coffee: I think a mix of Capricorn and Aquarius. Capricorn is said to be the one who likes to do things to fit in with what society says we should do, to keep up with the jones'. Making sure you maintain a professional image as possible. Aquarius, despite seeming different, is all about friends and social circles in a way that is similar, but different to Capricorn, that I can only guess. Going along with your friends, what they think. Must be Retro Saturn conjunct the ASC lol ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Yrone Knowflake Posts: 395 From: Registered: Apr 2011	posted June 08, 2011 12:33 AM Hmmm I used to be very very "omg what will "the neighbours" (insert anything really) think" all the time from picking clothing to where I bought my grocery to which park I went to, what did they think of me after some random chit chat omg ... **** em all. They are not the stars of my movie. Not to say I am acting inconsiderate, I just give way less weight to what other people might possibly think of me. And know what? Because I am more relaxed, most of them propably think better of me now that I am not trying so so very hard to keep up appearances. Anyway, natally I have that Cap Venus just past the MC in the tenth, opposed by my retro Saturn. Trined by a Virgo Moon. But I am also an Aquarius (Sun in H11) ^^ So that could be one for Coffee's Theory. IP: Logged
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2265 From: Registered: Nov 2009	posted June 08, 2011 12:40 AM My virgo sun and mars My libra venus and moon wants to be perfect (it's in 7th house conjuncting tightly) Even though I have an aries rising, I wish I had a sag sun or sth like that. IP: Logged
maira Knowflake Posts: 1010 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted June 08, 2011 03:36 AM quote: Originally posted by Coffee: Aquarius, despite seeming different, is all about friends and social circles in a way that is similar, but different to Capricorn, that I can only guess. Going along with your friends, what they think. Yes, the co-ruler of Aqua is Saturn, I know them really well and despite the descriptions, they are conformists. They do things to shock people, but they do have many capricornian traits - they need to be well off financially (as long as someone else provides), yearn for a traditional family, etc. At least my Aquas do IP: Logged
blugrey Knowflake Posts: 877 From: Portland, OR USA Registered: Nov 2010	posted June 08, 2011 03:43 AM Virgo South Node? IP: Logged
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 201 From: Registered: Oct 2009	posted June 08, 2011 03:44 AM Saturn in the 5th house! What I create needs to be perfect, how I express myself needs to be perfect. IP: Logged
squirrel Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Europe Registered: Jul 2009	posted June 08, 2011 06:22 AM Afflicted Venus, strong Virgo placements, Moon-Saturn aspects. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 30114 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 08, 2011 07:15 AM Such wonderful answers Thank you! I think I found my issues--Retro Saturn conjunct the ASC in Scorpio Now,I can study this,ponder it and perhaps get some upward movement with it ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it . Jesus He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged

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