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Topic: What Things in the Chart Make you Feel You Must Be Perfect?
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 07:15 AM
  
Such wonderful answers
Thank you!I think I found my issues--Retro Saturn conjunct the ASC in Scorpio
Now,I can study this,ponder it and perhaps get some upward movement.
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Coffee
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posted June 08, 2011 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by maira:
Yes, the co-ruler of Aqua is Saturn, I know them really well and despite the descriptions, they are conformists. They do things to shock people, but they do have many capricornian traits - they need to be well off financially (as long as someone else provides), yearn for a traditional family, etc. At least my Aquas do 
No, the co-ruler of Aqua is not Saturn, that was only in the days when Uranus wasn't found. If they studied astrology with all the planets known, they wouldn't have given Saturn and Uranus to Aqua at all. Sorry to hear that you are still spreading this chinese whisper round. It gets tiring helping people think a bit more deeply about this very subject. IP: Logged |
Anemone
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posted June 08, 2011 08:08 AM
I feel the need to scream "Virgo" on this one!
When it comes to career matters, I d say Capricorns and Scorpios are the hardest to themselves...it comes from an overwhelming need to win/have control. However, for an overall strong need of perfection in whatever you do, Virgo hands down...and I am talking Sun signs mainly.
As for Houses, this would indicate strive for perfection in certain areas of life. But traditional astrology hasnt claimed this over and over again for no reason - Virgos take the prize, usually no matter what their other placements/houses are!
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Anemone:
I feel the need to scream "Virgo" on this one!
When it comes to career matters, I d say Capricorns and Scorpios are the hardest to themselves...it comes for an overwhelming need to win/have control. However, for an overall strong need of perfection in whatever you do, Virgo hands down...and I am talking Sun signs mainly.
As for Houses, this would indicate strive for perfection in certain areas of life. But traditional astrology hasnt claimed this oever and over again for no reason - Virgos take the prize, usually no matter what their other placements/houses are!
Interesting and Chiron is supposed to rule Virgo according to my book on Chiron.It makes sense, too.
Mercury seems like it is Gemini's ruling planet but not Virgo's. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted June 08, 2011 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
No, the co-ruler of Aqua is not Saturn, that was only in the days when Uranus wasn't found. If they studied astrology with all the planets known, they wouldn't have given Saturn and Uranus to Aqua at all. Sorry to hear that you are still spreading this chinese whisper round. It gets tiring helping people think a bit more deeply about this very subject.
Coffee You are such a curmudgeon  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Chaos
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 08, 2011 08:14 AM
I agree with Venus 7H & Cap/10H planets, have all that...But I must add Mars sqare Neptune & Mars in Pisces, feels like I can't really express my anger properly. Neptune dampens my Mars, makes it too weak, almost apologetic, guilty if I react too harsh, always thinking it's my fault...I don't like "watery" Mars' or in combo with any watery planets...Scorpio Mars is OK by me, but Pisces & Cancer...worst positions EVER!  IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 08, 2011 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Interesting and Chiron is supposed to rule Virgo according to my book on Chiron.It makes sense, too.
Mercury seems like it is Gemini's ruling planet but not Virgo's.
I've done a hell of a lot of research on Mercury ruling Virgo, and it does. Involving the sports field. What you have there is a book full of cr@p. Not used in astrology at all. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
I've done a hell of a lot of research on Mercury ruling Virgo, and it does. Involving the sports field. What you have there is a book full of cr@p. Not used in astrology at all.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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maira
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posted June 08, 2011 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
No, the co-ruler of Aqua is not Saturn, that was only in the days when Uranus wasn't found. If they studied astrology with all the planets known, they wouldn't have given Saturn and Uranus to Aqua at all. Sorry to hear that you are still spreading this chinese whisper round. It gets tiring helping people think a bit more deeply about this very subject.
Hi Coffee, what planet would "they" give to Aquarius? I'm with Tim (and Linda Goodman, since proxieme mentioned her) on this one.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005611.html
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 03:50 PM
Maira
Saturn does not SEEM like it goes with Aqua.The vibe is totally different,to me.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 08, 2011 03:52 PM
I should get some of the perfect people on my thread about Bad boys to come over here and show me how it's done  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
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dysfunctionalmystic
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From: England
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 08, 2011 04:52 PM
Saturn as the co ruler of aqua is still widely used in traditional astrology and in horary. As mars is for scorpio.It's hard for me to say because I do see my aqua daughter as being saturnian BUT she has sun, merc conj saturn in aqua.... another aqua rising I know IS a capricorn with moon, ven con saturn (in sag) lol, I don't think I know anyone with aqua prominent that doesn't also have strong cap or saturn... All humans need others...we all need to feel validated or we experience anxiety, it's true that some can bypass this to a degree and be mavericks but no man is an island and all that. The "social" signs, aries,cancer, libra and capricorn may have more to worry about when it comes to keeping up appearances but virgo can be very self critical...more than any other sign. I've read before about mercury not being the true ruler of virgo and at times it's puzzled me too. Mercury (as in the god) was never too concerned about analysis and much more about gathering information and being a bit of a trickster, neither quality suits virgo at all. I've also read that chiron should have rulership of either virgo or sagittarius and that libra should be given to Eris. One argument to support the chiron/virgo theme is that chiron studied extensively and learned many of the healing arts but the need to analyse isn't associated with the myth I don't think but saying that, I have a chiron/moon con and analyse emotion endlessly but there are other chart factors involved that could account for that. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 08, 2011 05:19 PM
I've read somewhere in the forum about Vulcan ruling Virgo. Mercury rings only partly true for me - I also rely heavily on mythology when studying astrology. I don't know anything about Vulcan. I'll look it up, and Chiron also.Here's a discussion about the presumed Virgo rulership, but Ceres would definitely be Cancer in my opinion
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/virgo.html IP: Logged |
maira
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posted June 08, 2011 05:23 PM
Sorry about the link, there's babbling about Earth's inner sun. I think I'm going to bed now  IP: Logged |
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