posted October 01, 2011 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo/Leo Cusp:
your a moon square pluto?

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posted October 02, 2011 08:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Virgo/Leo Cusp:
[b]your a moon square pluto?

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The reason I ask is because I like someone who has Moon square Pluto and Venus opposed Pluto in natal chart......I have Moon trine Pluto and Venus square Pluto in my natal...I'm very intrigued...but at the same time very cautious, cause that seems like I'm going to be facing someone who is like me. But at the same time, I can see some hurt there,( probably like they can see on me)

posted October 02, 2011 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo/Leo Cusp:
The reason I ask is because I like someone who has Moon square Pluto and Venus opposed Pluto in natal chart......I have Moon trine Pluto and Venus square Pluto in my natal...I'm very intrigued...but at the same time very cautious, cause that seems like I'm going to be facing someone who is like me. But at the same time, I can see some hurt there,( probably like they can see on me)

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^i have moon square pluto and venus opposition pluto..

so the person you like has a t-square? eh maybe not..

i can remember alot. also i have a lot of documentation. pictures, tapes, books, diaries. saturn is in my 12th by transit right now i think and i read if that happens before a certain age like 30 or so that person would look back at his whole life from the start, which is what i have been doing.

posted October 02, 2011 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo/Leo Cusp:
The reason I ask is because I like someone who has Moon square Pluto and Venus opposed Pluto in natal chart......I have Moon trine Pluto and Venus square Pluto in my natal...I'm very intrigued...but at the same time very cautious, cause that seems like I'm going to be facing someone who is like me. But at the same time, I can see some hurt there,( probably like they can see on me)

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posted October 02, 2011 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
^i have moon square pluto and venus opposition pluto..

so the person you like has a t-square? eh maybe not..

i can remember alot. also i have a lot of documentation. pictures, tapes, books, diaries. saturn is in my 12th by transit right now i think and i read if that happens before a certain age like 30 or so that person would look back at his whole life from the start, which is what i have been doing.

i don't think i attract people similar to me.

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I remember everything in the present now...but back then a huge hazy, blur.

Right now Saturn is transiting my natal 10th house, nothing yet But Yeah I'm also big on documentation,photos,writing...I actually had a family event and was about the only one taking pics.. no one else did.

posted October 02, 2011 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
My first love was born 2 wks before me, his Venus was Rx conj mine. Our Moons were opposed and both our Moon and Venus natally sq Pluto. Keep in mind we had strong Saturn in the mix too but I would say don't pass it up. What you have are called shared aspects. If either of you have a Sun/Pluto affiliation or Mars/Pluto it could be v.steamy (mars h8, sun scorp, etc). My first love and I natally both had Mars conj Pluto, both had Sun trine Pluto and I have Sun h8. The Sun to Moon/Venus and the Mars to Moon/Venus can create a draw cos you're combining masculine and feminine principles.

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posted October 03, 2011 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
What do you guys think of the theory that Moon/Pluto people get on better with their grandmothers than their mothers? Or is this true for everyone My grandmother was everything to me and when she died I felt that loss much more acutely than my mother's death.

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posted October 03, 2011 05:17 PM            

i get along well with both. tho nowadays not so much with my grandma. need 2 behave.

posted October 06, 2011 02:54 AM            

I have Moon (24Libra27) widely conjunct Pluto (16Libra44), with Pluto in the 8th house (Placidus) and Moon in the 9th. I didn’t have a good relationship with my mother growing up, and not in the typical way. She wasn’t really there for me AT ALL, emotionally. I chalk it up to her being very young (19) when she had me. She was more like an older sister than a mother, which is actually not a good thing. That, along with her bouts of depression and not really knowing how to “Mother” because her own mother was abusive (She is a double Cap, her Pluto is in the 8th and her Moon is Sag in the 12th with no aspect between them and her Ceres is conjunct Saturn in the 1st) made everything all screwy. Now that I am older and understand that, we get along better. I know that I still can’t get the emotional support I need from her (which is a lot, I know I expect a lot from people), so I don’t ask. But she is happier now so she tries, which is great.

I actually feel partially responsible for helping her change. I mean, you can only be a pessimist around a happy idiot like me for so long. I am being serious. I think that once she saw that I couldn’t be “brought down” by my mother, as she had been, it was inspiring. Like, “huh? Why isn’t she lying around depressed too? Oh, I see, she is hopeful!” Her whole family is one of those stuck in a rut families, very prone to low grade depression, refusing to seek treatment, not trying anything new. Then along comes me, the crazy and independent one who likes to do everything. They saw that what I did didn’t hurt me, even when I would fail and look like an idiot or had to start over, so it became okay. After a while they gave in to happiness. My cousin also did the same thing for her mother (my mom’s sister) as well (she has Moon conjunct IC). I read somewhere (I forgot where) that Moon-Pluto people are actually meant to do that, be the transformational force in the family.

About “gut instincts”:
I have it, but do I use it? That is a different story. I pretty much do but I can ignore it when it comes to men (Moon square Venus messes with my heart-emotional connection). I have a good b.s. detector though so I usually come to my senses quickly, it is just that I don’t want to believe it sometimes.

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Yup, I went through that too CuriousWoman, especially in my 20s (and it rears its ugly head every once in a while). This is what Bob Marks says about Moon-Pluto “Pluto Aspecting the Moon: Tends towards sudden, extreme mood swings. I ought to know. Two of my ex-girl friends had the opposition. Women with the stressful aspects have to be careful of other women who will get jealous and turn on them, even after years of "friendship". No, this does not mean that EVERY woman in your life will do this, but you will get more than your share of such incidents, much more. The mother will tend to be a strong-willed, no nonsense type. Again, in the horoscopes of women, the mother will tend to be jealous of you and act accordingly.”

posted October 09, 2011 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
About the mom:

I have Moon (24Libra27) widely conjunct Pluto (16Libra44), with Pluto in the 8th house (Placidus) and Moon in the 9th. I didn’t have a good relationship with my mother growing up, and not in the typical way. She wasn’t really there for me AT ALL, emotionally. I chalk it up to her being very young (19) when she had me. She was more like an older sister than a mother, which is actually not a good thing. That, along with her bouts of depression and not really knowing how to “Mother” because her own mother was abusive (She is a double Cap, her Pluto is in the 8th and her Moon is Sag in the 12th with no aspect between them and her Ceres is conjunct Saturn in the 1st) made everything all screwy. Now that I am older and understand that, we get along better. I know that I still can’t get the emotional support I need from her (which is a lot, I know I expect a lot from people), so I don’t ask. But she is happier now so she tries, which is great.

I actually feel partially responsible for helping her change. I mean, you can only be a pessimist around a happy idiot like me for so long. I am being serious. I think that once she saw that I couldn’t be “brought down” by my mother, as she had been, it was inspiring. Like, “huh? Why isn’t she lying around depressed too? Oh, I see, she is hopeful!” Her whole family is one of those stuck in a rut families, very prone to low grade depression, refusing to seek treatment, not trying anything new. Then along comes me, the crazy and independent one who likes to do everything. They saw that what I did didn’t hurt me, even when I would fail and look like an idiot or had to start over, so it became okay. After a while they gave in to happiness. My cousin also did the same thing for her mother (my mom’s sister) as well (she has Moon conjunct IC). I read somewhere (I forgot where) that Moon-Pluto people are actually meant to do that, be the transformational force in the family.

About “gut instincts”:
I have it, but do I use it? That is a different story. I pretty much do but I can ignore it when it comes to men (Moon square Venus messes with my heart-emotional connection). I have a good b.s. detector though so I usually come to my senses quickly, it is just that I don’t want to believe it sometimes.

Yup, I went through that too CuriousWoman, especially in my 20s (and it rears its ugly head every once in a while). This is what Bob Marks says about Moon-Pluto [b]“Pluto Aspecting the Moon: Tends towards sudden, extreme mood swings. I ought to know. Two of my ex-girl friends had the opposition. Women with the stressful aspects have to be careful of other women who will get jealous and turn on them, even after years of "friendship". No, this does not mean that EVERY woman in your life will do this, but you will get more than your share of such incidents, much more. The mother will tend to be a strong-willed, no nonsense type. Again, in the horoscopes of women, the mother will tend to be jealous of you and act accordingly.”

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posted October 09, 2011 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo/Leo Cusp:

I don't have Mother issues, My mom made me a indepenedent and strong woman. She is a no non-sense person. I see her as strong-willed and I have alot of respect for her.
I have see what she has gone thru, all the good and bad in life. Every know and then she'll try to smother me, I just tell her mom, relax. Then she's ok

I don't know if she has a fear of losing me, like she'll never see me again. We laugh and joke together and most importantly we are honest with eachother.

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posted December 20, 2011 09:15 PM            

Needless to say, this is a dominant player in my chart, and I don't miss a beat.

Slightly off topic, but I have a 8th house stellium including mercury in gemini. I have a laser mind when it comes to figuring out people. I don't miss much at all.

I don't attribute much of it to psychic ability either. Human behavior just makes worlds of sense to me, and I just, well, get it. Others motivations are not lost on me at all.

posted December 20, 2011 09:20 PM            

I also have huge dad issues too.

posted December 20, 2011 09:28 PM            

I do however have sun sextile pluto by a degree, sun trine saturn by like 5ish degrees, saturn square asc by 5 degrees and saturn square mercury exact. Also moon squares saturn very loosely, and moon and venus also square chiron both by a degree.