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Topic: Why does Capricorn get such a bad name?
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:03 PM
  
WHERE is my insect repellent  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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Chaos
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From: Serbia
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WHERE is my insect repellent
 Man, you're a funny gal, but I'm a special kind of "mosquito"  A lot of people in real life tried to spray me with that, figuratively speaking, of course, but they just ended up poisoned...I don't have a repellent myself, it's their own repellent... But jokes aside, you're a good astrologer, I'll give you that, but I feel you're not very honest, at least not with me, personally...You should've told me, from the start, that you don't like me, that I shouldn't post in your topics, that I don't "get you" and what you were asking/trying to say & that my opinion is irrelevant to you. I'd understand that...beating around the bush & repellent jokes don't cut it... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Chaos:
Man, you're a funny gal, but I'm a special kind of "mosquito" A lot of people in real life tried to spray me with that, figuratively speaking, of course, but they just ended up poisoned...I don't have a repellent myself, it's their own repellent... But jokes aside, you're a good astrologer, I'll give you that, but I feel you're not very honest, at least not with me, personally...You should've told me, from the start, that you don't like me, that I shouldn't post in your topics, that I don't "get you" and what you were asking/trying to say & that my opinion is irrelevant to you. I'd understand that...beating around the bush & repellent jokes don't cut it...
What can I say to THAT??? You hang on to the Eris Award until I find the next lucky recipient  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Chaos
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: Serbia
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What can I say to THAT??? You hang on to the Eris Award until I find the next lucky recipient
What can you say? Well, I was hoping you'd say something articulate to that, like a concrete answer, but no avail. Or maybe you don't even read my replies, but just randomly answer with already generated reply, so you wouldn't have to actually use your brain power. I thought my posts were simple...obviously not that simple for everyone. So sorry we can't communicate, cause the communicatio is one sided, don't bother replying to this. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Chaos:
What can you say? Well, I was hoping you'd say something articulate to that, like a concrete answer, but no avail. Or maybe you don't even read my replies, but just randomly answer with already generated reply, so you wouldn't have to actually use your brain power. I thought my posts were simple...obviously not that simple for everyone. So sorry we can't communicate, cause the communicatio is one sided, don't bother replying to this.
You are GOOD.Don't worry about losing your reward any time soon.
I did see Carl meandering around looking for it but it is safe with you for the moment
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Chaos
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: Serbia
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 12, 2011 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are GOOD.Don't worry about losing your reward any time soon.
I did see Carl meandering around looking for it but it is safe with you for the moment
Oh, and here's a confirmation, yup, definitely generated answers  IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian
Knowflake Posts: 930
From: Yo mama
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by Anglerfish:
My exp with Cap suns
1. Manipulative
2. Devoid of all emotion
3. Selfish
4. Want you to do everything they like even if you don't want to.
5. They are not aware of anybody but themselves
6. Are just all round horrible.
7. Try to act like it was your fault when it was theres.
8. Cruel
9. Try to undermine you.
10.Screw you over.I hate January Caps...even if they have Pisces.
I must agree with this. Sun Cap I know, I swear she is mechanical and has no real emotions for others.
And I cannot stand how they can't admit they did something wrong! Even if it was a misunderstanding. And they are mature? Psh. oh yeah and if you get into a fight they always say you are immature! Like what? It has nothing to do with our fight!
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CrazyAquarian
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From: Yo mama
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If I had to trust a sign with my life,I think it would be Cap 
O_O You don't like life?
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 27056
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]If I had to trust a sign with my life,I think it would be Cap
O_O You don't like life?[/B][/QUOTE] Good one ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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cupcakes
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From: USA
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 13, 2011 04:29 AM
Capricorns with Venus/Mars/Moon in Sagittarius, Aquarius, or Pisces are usually delightful people who don't act like Capricorns at all. Well, except they always look good in a suit. Hahaha. All the ones I've met are. I personally value for Sage Venus, oh man. It makes me a little more daring in life.Capricorn MOONS. Ugh. I have a VERY strong Capricorn natal chart but I cannot stand Capricorn Moons. Mopey and depressive people. Usually self-centered too. I either really like them or they annoy they living hell out of me. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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From: USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 02:54 PM
I'll tell you the truth. It's because you guys appear ruthless on the outside, though you aren't. Ou're sweethearts on the inside but people don't like the way you come off on the outside. Your cold exterior is what gives you a hard rap. Be warmer, kinder, less bossy, more imaginative. Give love. Don't stay in your shell and remain protected, give love.From a cancer IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 13, 2011 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I'll tell you the truth. It's because you guys appear ruthless on the outside, though you aren't. Ou're sweethearts on the inside but people don't like the way you come off on the outside. Your cold exterior is what gives you a hard rap. Be warmer, kinder, less bossy, more imaginative. Give love. Don't stay in your shell and remain protected, give love.From a cancer
You can't ask that of them anymore than they could ask you to shut up about your feelings and keep them to yourself. Think about it. There are perceptive people who can look past outer appearance and see what lies inside, and they aren't asking a person to change. The people who judge Cappies like that at first glance and then move on..I'm pretty sure the Cappies are glad they're rid of them. This is one reason Capricorn energy is good with Scorpio, it's said Capricorn is a Scorpio in a business suit, so underneath the covers they are quite something, and if they put it all on show there would be a loss of mystery and depth, i.e., Cancer. Capricorn Moon/Venus. IP: Logged |
sunshine9
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From: Beehive
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2011 03:54 PM
Heyyy, I OBJECT to Cappies getting a bad rap!! I'm a quadruple Cappy (Sun, Moon, Merc, Mars), and while I may have the occasional Saturnine mood when I'm brooding or blue, I can be light-hearted often times too - with a droll sense of humor.Cappy is the reverse ager, they say. We act old when we are new to the world, and let loose as we grow older and have achieved some of the goals we've set out for ourselves. I still remember Linda's description of Cappies being delightfully child-like in their enjoyment of the world into their later years, and even sometimes appearing younger than they did as children! Sunshine IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted June 13, 2011 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by cupcakes:
Capricorns with Venus/Mars/Moon in Sagittarius, Aquarius, or Pisces are usually delightful people who don't act like Capricorns at all. Well, except they always look good in a suit. Hahaha. All the ones I've met are. I personally value for Sage Venus, oh man. It makes me a little more daring in life.
I find Capricorns with mutable, air, or water energy alot more easier to deal with than super Caps. They still like to delegate at times, but are less likely to stab me in the back. I just remembered my boss is a Cap....Ugh. Doesn't reward any loyalty at all because we're all just a number in her assembly line. Great big insult to some people's degrees and hardwork IMO.
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Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted June 13, 2011 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[B] This is one reason Capricorn energy is good with Scorpio, it's said Capricorn is a Scorpio in a business suit, so underneath the covers they are quite something, and if they put it all on show there would be a loss of mystery and depth, i.e., Cancer.
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Have to say I disagree with that. There's plenty of depth to Cancer for one thing (we wouldn't have the insight that we do without it), and #2...we wear a pretty good shell so not even close to everything is for show.
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ecomat
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted June 13, 2011 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
You can't ask that of them anymore than they could ask you to shut up about your feelings and keep them to yourself.Think about it. There are perceptive people who can look past outer appearance and see what lies inside, and they aren't asking a person to change. The people who judge Cappies like that at first glance and then move on..I'm pretty sure the Cappies are glad they're rid of them. This is one reason Capricorn energy is good with Scorpio, it's said Capricorn is a Scorpio in a business suit, so underneath the covers they are quite something, and if they put it all on show there would be a loss of mystery and depth, i.e., Cancer. Capricorn Moon/Venus.
absolutely! agree on both (don't ask for a change of SELF, becasuse it's impossible and the scorp+cap thing). IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus
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From: California
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted June 13, 2011 07:54 PM
Ok, ^ with that said, if a scorpio is open with their feelings, why not express it back? Are they unable to express feelings? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 13, 2011 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Have to say I disagree with that. There's plenty of depth to Cancer for one thing (we wouldn't have the insight that we do without it), and #2...we wear a pretty good shell so not even close to everything is for show.
Cancer isn't automatic insight into others just because it's a water sign, it's more concerned with protection of the self and those they care for. Yes the shell it's for self protection, again, concerned with the self. They are actually very easy to read since they are predictable once you know what they value which is easy to see when you've been around them for a short while, everything is on show, they can't hide (even if they think they are hiding, to the outside it's only silence, a brooding sort of childlike silence, where like when a small sullen child is quiet you can see all the emotion in them they're just not expressing it outright, giving it verbal expression). People tend to not give Cancers enough credit for their strength, in general, so if anything falters re: perception it's in that realm. Your perception makes sense actually cos Cancers would like to believe they can hide, but they don't need to, and even if they did they'd be found out. They're strong enough on their own. Just look at the shell and there it is,  IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted June 13, 2011 09:21 PM
Well yeah, insight wouldn't be automatic when one is feeling vulnerable from all the energy swirling around or primarily obsessed with protecting its soft body (self-preservation again--->> something Cap knows well too) but our insightful nature is still there. When we're feeling secure, no one can be more on the mark. I would think Ernest Hemmingway had alot of that even though he was a total *sshole, all one has to do is pick up a short story of his to see that. And ever watched or read anything by Tony Bourdain? All that dude ever does is throw out insights, profanity included yes, but his stuff can be incredible. And those are just two examples of many. I'm just saying that, predictable or not, if we really lacked depth we wouldn't be able to churn out half the things we do. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 13, 2011 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
Ok, ^ with that said, if a scorpio is open with their feelings, why not express it back? Are they unable to express feelings?
That's the business suit bit, you can call it armor or reserve or fear or coldness, it could be due to a lack of respect, which is big for Capricorn (depending on the people involved), but there are so many factors that could come into play when one person does not seem to return another person's affections. The important piece of info is that once you get past that suit, you're in. I would say, in general, don't push them to reveal or express more than they want, in their own time they will, and actually in my experience they are more prone to express their feelings through actions rather than words. I know Scorpio loves to go deep, and they have passion in common with Capricorn, but in general Capricorn would rather not flaunt. They can be lighthearted and fun and hold hands and kiss in public, etc., but the depth that comes along with it they will reveal in their own time, maybe writing a letter or planning a special event for you two, but they will do something that will show that you're on their mind, and it usually pertains to future tense, if they talk about you two in future terms they may see that as being an obvious sign that they're going to be around. But for many I think they need to get used to the idea first of having feelings for someone, after that they warm up, your person may have feelings for you and not be in a place yet where they're ready to express. A Venus in Aquarius Capricorn is another thing, but even them, they can warm up to one person and that be the end of it, if they're interesting enough  IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 13, 2011 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Well yeah, insight wouldn't be automatic when one feeling vulnerable from all the energy swirling around or primarily obsessed with protecting its soft body (self-preservation again--->> something Cap knows well too) but our insightful nature is still there. When we're feeling secure, no one can be more on the mark. I would think Ernest Hemmingway had alot of that even though he was a total *sshole, all one has to do is pick up a short story of his to see that. And ever watched or read anything by Tony Bourdain? All that dude ever does is throw out insights, profanity included yes, but his stuff can be incredible. And those are just two examples of many. I'm just saying that, predictable or not, if we really lacked depth we wouldn't be able to churn out half the things we do.
Loss of depth, not lack of. "When we're feeling secure, no one can be more on the mark." ^ And this is overselling the point a bit, don't you think. The most perceptive people I've known, hitting it on the mark, always strong Scorp or Pluto, the most incisive was Scorp Sun conj Asc, I haven't yet met anyone who could match her, certainly not any Cancer I've ever come across, which are always too concerned with themselves and theirs. It's not a bad thing to be concerned with protecting your clan (whether it be your family or your country) but don't think that Cancer by itself is going to venture much beyond that. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted June 13, 2011 09:56 PM
Okay I apologize for the advertisement, I didn't mean that "we are the best". I do, however, think your perception of Cancer energy is pretty narrow and one dimensional. I have met enough very perceptive Cancers, from many backgrounds, to know it IS indeed in our nature too. Concern for the self is also a Scorpio trait too, yet they can have that AND be perceptively on the mark...but somehow Cancer cannot? That doesn't make sense to me since neither energy is high or low by default. IP: Logged |
abcd efg
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From: India
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 14, 2011 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
Ok, ^ with that said, if a scorpio is open with their feelings, why not express it back? Are they unable to express feelings?
YES. In the way we would hope them to. I have three cap asc in my family. And they are cold ummmm sorry rather appear to be cold. But a support they definately are. They cannot be warm like water or say sweets things or just talk like a Gemini or Libra. They cannot be physically terribly passionate like scorpio. It can be terribly frustrating, irritaing arrrghhhhh! Trust me, i have been living with 3 since my childhood. But what they do do (thats not a mistake) is BE OF USE. And that MEANS A LOT to them. And to US when we really need it. That is their way of saying I LOVE YOU. Once you understand this you will know. Ofcourse that frustration part you have to live with. But they have all the above things in small quantities or large depending upon the other planetary placements. IP: Logged |
abcd efg
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posted June 14, 2011 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
My experience with an Aqua/Cap is that he is very cold emotionally. Ambitious he may be, but in the end how fulfilling is that? People are social creatures and they need love...if you aren't going to open up, or at least show some kind of care (empathy), then you can't expect a deep connection in love. It's unfortunate because they have the potential of being great partners. The good ones are...the others, they have some work to do.
Who ever said Caps and Scorps are similar is wrong. They are not...Caps seem to lack passion in the area of human relationships. Sorry...I think I'm just ranting at this point.
These guys are good long term partners than those little day to day moment ones. Ofcourse if the person has other planetary influences then they could have other traits of emotions or passion or whatever in a good measure. Now you have to ask yourself what exactly YOU WANT. And yes passion can be of different types. Aries is passionate in a fiery way so also scorpio in a deep deep oceanic way. So is Cancer in emotional way. Emotional passion? Yes. What is passion? Intense focus? Then all of us are passionate in our own ways. So is Capi. How? Now you tell me. IP: Logged |
TrueTaurus
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From: California
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posted June 14, 2011 01:08 PM
^ Hey I appreciate that.
Passionate in their work and careers, but not so much in a love relationship, also getting to know the female sex.
I recently F-d it up with the Aqua/Cap...he would always put work first. IP: Logged | |
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