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RunAroundScreaming
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posted June 13, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about this, and this is what it feels like the chinese signs really correspond to. Tell me what you think.

A snake is obviously a libra (vain, wise, philosophical, lazy, absolutely beautiful, hypersensitive, needs harmony at all costs, loves to show off her charm and needs people, logical  and analytical but needy), the pig a cancer (the opposite of libra: hates vanity or waste of any kind, both are very indecisive, pig is very naive and likes to believe everyone is  good at heart in the end), the goat pisces the dreamer (totally unrealistic, uber shy, very kind to everyone), the ox taurus (hard workers, stubborn, likes routine, quiet and shy), the rabbit capricorn (unaffectionate, cold, philosophical, but sensitive on the inside, a humorous person but can be really antisocial and have a stubborn/insensitive streak), the rooster virgo (workaholic, demanding perfectionist, plain-looking), the tiger gemini (naive, childlike, always energetic), the horse sagittarius (duh) (arrogant, impul sive, always making jokes), the dragon aries, (go getter, larger than life, and very confident  and guys are very masculine, wants to dominate) the monkey aquarius (always joking and on the move, stubborn and opinionated, a rebel), the dog leo (loyal, critical or bossy, and friendly, and has a generous heart and a sense of pride) and the rat scorpio (appears cold, calculating and weird or just plain creepy, hard to get to know, not great with peop le but can be witty and charming nevertheless, though they seem mean and sneaky)   


I have a hard time deciding if a rooster is more of a scorpio though. According to astrologizeme.com they have sadistic tendencies and very love/hate attitudes, and also they are people of extremes, everything is either black or white.

The dog definitely doesnt seem like a leo to me. But that's the only one that was left lol. The dog seems more like a capricorn because they criticize everything on its morality and have a stern serious demeanor, and have a hard time expressing feelings. But in real life the persoanlity of the animal (dog) is most like leo to me. But i guess dogs really arent like the actual animal. Dogs, the animal, are a ray of sunshine like leos are.

::shrugs::

i think i will switch these two. It says roosters are not shy or discreet, and modesty is not their strongest virtue. And that dogs blush when someone gives them a compliment. So i think the rooster is best as a scorpio, and the dog is best as a virgo. The dog is considered to be the most critical sign of the chinese zodiac, so it fits well.

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posted June 13, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rat - Sagittarius
Ox - Capricorn
Tiger - Aquarius
Rabbit - Pisces
Dragon - Aries
Snake - Taurus
Horse - Gemini
Goat - Cancer
Monkey - Leo
Rooster - Virgo
Dog - Libra
Pig - Scorpio

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posted June 13, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i Know those are the traditional associations, but I just can't see the pig as scorpio, The rat as sagittarius, the rabbit as pisces, or the tiger as aquarius, and the snake seems much more of a libra to me than a taurus. I'm a snake.

Tigers are warm, expressive and personal, while aquariuses seem cold distant and impersonal, though humorous. The snake is perhaps a bit too clingy and emotional and personal to be a detached libra, but every other quality matches so well to the extravagant, kind, and sophisticated libra that i cant ignore it. The rabbit is really cold and unaffectionate, and in fact seems almost like they are a lot more cerebral than emotional, though they arent really. Think of what a rabbit or cat looks like, with that blank expression in their eyes. That doesnt make me think pisces at all. And rabbits are nowhere near as big of dreamers as pisces are. The pig is almost exactly like a cancer, and o thinkthe goat fits pisces much better.

The reason for the traditional association must be because each sign in western astrology has to stay in its element. All the earthsigns must coincide with the earth signs in chinese astrology---the snake, ox, and rooster. Etc.

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posted January 26, 2016 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the traditional associations fit perfectly!

Also, I have recently come across another kind of association:

Rat - Aries
Ox - Taurus
Tiger - Gemini
Rabbit - Cancer
Dragon - Leo
Snake - Virgo
Horse - Libra
Goat - Scorpio
Monkey - Sagittarius
Rooster - Capricorn
Dog - Aquarius
Pig - Pisces

Detailed explanation here: http://spirit-alembic.com/zodiac.html I find it pretty interesting and accurate, but I am still with the traditional associations.

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posted January 26, 2016 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter takes almost 12 years to go around the Sun
Chinese astrology is based on that movement
.Chinese constellations that Jupiter travels through on that journey relate to mythologies the are truly Chinese in origin.
Western astrologys' 12 signs are based on the path of the sun viewed from the earth.

there is NO CORRELATION , I fail to understand why everyone wants to create one
out of nothing,
insolence I suppose

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posted January 26, 2016 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't agree with any sign2sign associations because from my perspective - each Chinese sign is complex (more complex than Western) and it can be associated with a mix of character traits - and hence, several Western signs, not just one.

e.g. Tigers are egotistical and proud, like Leo.. and when they roar, it's scary They might have the Gemini wit, but a Tiger is no court jester.
They are also not kid-like enough to be associated with a personal sign. They are very focused on global issues, more than anything... environmental issues, animal rights, human rights... Just look up some famous tigers lol

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posted January 26, 2016 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
there is NO CORRELATION , I fail to understand why everyone wants to create one
out of nothing

I perceive a correlation, and in some ways, I can better understand a Western sign by thinking of it in terms of its corresponding Chinese sign.

For instance, Taurus = Snake.

There are some differences, I agree...but Taurus is more intuitive than Westerners give it credit for...a mistake that could be corrected by thinking of the Snake.

As for Scorpio = Pig

Pigs are said to be financially astute...so is Scorpio. Pigs love food/drink and so does Scorpio. Pigs are SWEET and in my experience, so is Scorpio. But they both get enraged when pressed to their limits.

Rabbit = Pisces

How can anyone know a Rabbit and not see it?

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posted January 26, 2016 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder why this thread has been widely expanded.

Nobody even posted a huge picture.

It's annoying, having to scroll across to read.

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posted January 26, 2016 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
i Know those are the traditional associations, but I just can't see the pig as scorpio, The rat as sagittarius, the rabbit as pisces, or the tiger as aquarius, and the snake seems much more of a libra to me than a taurus. I'm a snake.

Tigers are warm, expressive and personal, while aquariuses seem cold distant and impersonal, though humorous. The snake is perhaps a bit too clingy and emotional and personal to be a detached libra, but every other quality matches so well to the extravagant, kind, and sophisticated libra that i cant ignore it. The rabbit is really cold and unaffectionate, and in fact seems almost like they are a lot more cerebral than emotional, though they arent really. Think of what a rabbit or cat looks like, with that blank expression in their eyes. That doesnt make me think pisces at all. And rabbits are nowhere near as big of dreamers as pisces are. The pig is almost exactly like a cancer, and o thinkthe goat fits pisces much better.

The reason for the traditional association must be because each sign in western astrology has to stay in its element. All the earthsigns must coincide with the earth signs in chinese astrology---the snake, ox, and rooster. Etc.


Yeah, I know. I was going to say that same thing. I used to agree with the correspondencies, but now I think it's more complicated than that. In relation to the rabbit, in particular, deep inside they are cold and they don't give that much affection genuinely. I don't see Pisces like that. With Rabbit I think of an Air sign, probably Aquarius or Libra. I hadn't thought of Capricorn, but it kind of makes sense.
Tiger is supposed to be Aquarius, but more courageous and proud, so I'd say a mixture of Aqua, Gemini and Leo..

I can totally see the Pig as Cancer (they are very nurturing ), the goat as Pisces, the rooster as Virgo, the horse as Sagittarius, the dragon as Aries. Somehow I see the Monkey more like Gemini and the Tiger more like Leo. I think of the Dog as Libra. And how about the Ox as Scorpio, I think they are very sensitive deep inside.

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posted January 26, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, double post.

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posted January 26, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In relation to the rabbit, in particular, deep inside they are cold and they don't give that much affection genuinely,


But which rabbit, there is more that one Rabbit ,there is more than one OX and so on,
there are not twelve,, but 60.12 x 5
A fire chicken has diff personality than a wood chicken.

and so on,,
Additionally in Chinese astrology they do not consider the person to be the YEAR, but the day.


Anyone trying to make a correlation but has never even read 5 real pages on Chinese astrology is acting un-intelligently.

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posted January 26, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
In relation to the rabbit, in particular, deep inside they are cold and they don't give that much affection genuinely,


But which rabbit, there is more that one Rabbit ,there is more than one OX and so on,
there are not twelve,, but 60.12 x 5
A fire chicken has diff personality than a wood chicken.

and so on,,
Additionally in Chinese astrology they do not consider the person to be the YEAR, but the day.


Anyone trying to make a correlation but has never even read 5 real pages on Chinese astrology is acting un-intelligently.


Seimei I know about that, and I've read about the Chinese horoscope if that was meant for me... In this case I was talking about a fire Rabbit and yes, I'm aware there are different elements and they affect signs in different ways.
Also I was just talking about the Chinese year sign in general, although I know there's the month, day and hour sign.
Probably the most accurate thing to do about the Chinese zodiac, to make it more accurate, would be to join the influence of our Western and Chinese signs together.
I was refering to a Gemini Rabbit. He is very earthy, not prone to be sentimental or express feelings (but sensitive) and very sensible (that's why I thought Capricorn very fitting for it). But of course I know I'm generalising.
Still I work with groups of people (kids) of different ages and you can pinpoint traits that are only appliable to that group and often common to all of them, such as being hardworking, perfectionist, nurturing or sensitive. So probably that's what the 'year sign' refers to, even if people born during the same year don't notice it.

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posted January 26, 2016 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rabbits are cold?

Well, Pisces is accused of being cold, too.

Loving in "too universal" a way.

quote:
Anyone trying to make a correlation but has never even read 5 real pages on Chinese astrology is acting un-intelligently.

To me, the reading is not the actual "school."

It's paying attention to real life.

Noticing how the Years work.

I've read books on Chinese astrology.

Not sure if they count as "real"?

But one doesn't need the details to accept the basics.

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posted January 26, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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to make it more accurate, would be to join the influence of our Western and Chinese signs

Have you ever read Suzanne White's book?

The New Astrology.

I find it highly accurate.

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posted January 26, 2016 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently there's a type of astrology called, "Primal Astrology" in which you combine the chinese and western zodiac in order to become associated with animals that describe you. It's pretty interesting if you ask me.

I'm an Aquarius born in the year of the Tiger (I'm an Earth Tiger). In this primal mix, I'm a Panther.

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posted January 26, 2016 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I'm a weasel in that one...

Not kidding.

I decided to pass....

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posted January 26, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry WEAVER finch.

Got that confused with Weasel.

Free, lengthy readings people!
http://www.primalastrology.com/animal-spirit-chart.html

Only two weeks later and I would have been a Sloth.

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posted January 26, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

I perceive a correlation, and in some ways, I can better understand a Western sign by thinking of it in terms of its corresponding Chinese sign.

For instance, Taurus = Snake.

There are some differences, I agree...but Taurus is more intuitive than Westerners give it credit for...a mistake that could be corrected by thinking of the Snake.

As for Scorpio = Pig

Pigs are said to be financially astute...so is Scorpio. Pigs love food/drink and so does Scorpio. Pigs are SWEET and in my experience, so is Scorpio. But they both get enraged when pressed to their limits.

Rabbit = Pisces

How can anyone know a Rabbit and not see it?


So true! I also use the traditional associations to understand both Western and Chinese zodiac signs better

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posted January 26, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

Only two weeks later and I would have been a Sloth.


I would be a sloth, had I actually been born in the year of the rabbit as I had thought originally (I was born in 1999). Apparently my birth-date translates to sometime in December for the Chinese zodiac, so I'm a Panther instead.

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posted January 26, 2016 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@diamondbaby:

@Electro: 1999?!!!

My oldest son was born then...let's see...he's a Sugar Glider.

I won't tell him, it's hard enough to get him to see he's a Sagittarius.
Though he vastly prefers Archer to "Rabbit".

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posted January 26, 2016 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@Electro: 1999?!!!

My oldest son was born then...let's see...he's a Sugar Glider.

I won't tell him, it's hard enough to get him to see he's a Sagittarius.
Though he vastly prefers Archer to "Rabbit".


I can understand that lol. I have a Scorpio friend who happens to be an Octopus in this mix. She was just like, "I knew I would be something weird."

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