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AriesSun
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posted June 16, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think about pholus conj NN relations?

Those two examples that i had- only one is couple that i have more information than just a chart and that couple have had on-off relation but those have also chiron conj NN aspect and also that other's NN is in other's 2nd house -thing

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesSun:
What do you think about pholus conj NN relations?

Those two examples that i had- only one is couple that i have more information than just a chart and that couple have had on-off relation but those have also chiron conj NN aspect and also that other's NN is in other's 2nd house -thing


Hmm
Write a post just about the exact Pholus aspects and put it in my Pholus thread in the Asteroid forum.
I am trying to get a feel for Pholus as we speak

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posted June 16, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesSun:
e.g. 1: Workmates
a) Sun conj NN
ASC conj NN 12th house

b) DCS conj NN

e.g. 2: Couple
a) Vertex/uranus conj NN
Lilith conj NN

b) MC conj NN

c) Vesta conj NN

d) Pholus conj NN

e) Chiron conj NN
Pholus conj NN

f) Vesta conj NN
Juno conj NN

e.g. 3: Long lasting friendship
a) ASC conj NN 1st

b) ASC conj NN 12th house
Pallas conj NN

c) Venus conj NN
ASC conj NN 12th house
DSC conj NN

d) Mars conj NN
Juno conj NN

e.g. 4: Siblings
a) Uranus conj NN
Lilith conj NN

b) Uranus conj NN

c) DSC conj NN

e.g. 6: Helping each other (giving advices)
Mars conj NN

Interesting!
And when I'm looking those charts and think about these persons and those relations i can see that DSC conj NN can be quite difficult

And when looking up houses i can see that when we are talking about marriage there can be NN in other person's 2nd house or in relationship houses 5th, 7th, 9th are quite general places to NN too when talking about couples

Actually about those couples with NN in other's 2nd house - those are couples who have had stony road together and maybe have even on-off relationship (even when talking about married couple)


Interesting indeed! The moon-nn guy which would come under the relationsip category ... this occurs in my 9th and his 5th house.

with your workmates - how did the DSC conj NN play out? And ASC conj NN? I see the ASC conjunct NN as being more of a soul relationship ... I would imagine it would be hard to not get too involved with this person?

I haven't looked at asteroids conjunct the NN .. at least not in a long time.

My co-worker - sun NN conjunction (with mercury) on second look also has my vertex square his NN which also opposes my POF.
His jupiter (which sits on his SN) conjuncts my POF exact. He is probably a very fortunate person in my life and I am lucky to have met someone like this. He is super supportive of me and is always encouraging me.

I never really thought of the siblings one either (probably because we dont have a choice hehe) but my brother and I haev mercury conjunct NN (his mercury my NN) in my third house. Very appropriate placements for a sibling - third house and mercury involved. My Pluto opposes this and sits on his SN. His Saturn and Juno sit on my SN! Weird lol
I haven't looked up any other asteroids though. My brother and I are super protective of each other as well and very family orientated. He is Gemini sun with Gemini rising and his ascendant are conjucnt my vertex and juno in cancer (he is late gemini rising).

We communicate extraordinarily well but I always thought that was because we grew up together.

Ariessun how did you relationship NN conjucntions play out, in particular the planets??

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MsCandeh
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posted June 16, 2011 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aww Thank you for your post MsCandeh.

I do not look graceful as I change.I look downright ugly,usually.
However, I respect Pluto's power too much to resist him.
When he prods me,I open myself and say "Take me,JUST as I am"
He does and when he is done ,I am a little prettier, a little sweeter and a little wiser.


I am taking a leaf out of your book as we speak. Thank you!

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posted June 16, 2011 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little rusty on my asteroids. I interpret on feeling and intuition in a chart. I know the general gist of the meanings of some asteroids but no idea about pholus. Was he a centaur? I will have to google this ! Maybe we should start a separate thread about NN and asteroid aspects??? I believe that this would definitely give the relationship/friendship some extra flavour.. and maybe also look into aspects other than conjunctions.

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posted June 16, 2011 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Interesting indeed! The moon-nn guy which would come under the relationsip category ... this occurs in my 9th and his 5th house.

with your workmates - how did the DSC conj NN play out? And ASC conj NN? I see the ASC conjunct NN as being more of a soul relationship ... I would imagine it would be hard to not get too involved with this person?

I haven't looked at asteroids conjunct the NN .. at least not in a long time.

My co-worker - sun NN conjunction (with mercury) on second look also has my vertex square his NN which also opposes my POF.
His jupiter (which sits on his SN) conjuncts my POF exact. He is probably a very fortunate person in my life and I am lucky to have met someone like this. He is super supportive of me and is always encouraging me.

I never really thought of the siblings one either (probably because we dont have a choice hehe) but my brother and I haev mercury conjunct NN (his mercury my NN) in my third house. Very appropriate placements for a sibling - third house and mercury involved. My Pluto opposes this and sits on his SN. His Saturn and Juno sit on my SN! Weird lol
I haven't looked up any other asteroids though. My brother and I are super protective of each other as well and very family orientated. He is Gemini sun with Gemini rising and his ascendant are conjucnt my vertex and juno in cancer (he is late gemini rising).

We communicate extraordinarily well but I always thought that was because we grew up together.

Ariessun how did you relationship NN conjucntions play out, in particular the planets??


I'm sorry but my mother language isn't English so it would be nice if you could clarify your question(s) to me, thank you!

Are you asking about how my relationship is/were working with NN conjunctions?

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Still_Hopeful
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posted June 16, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami! many thanks
yes, Deja conj Pluto is a biggie
and NN conj Pluto excat is bigge too.
Thank you for putting my concerns to rest. For some reason I thought NN conj Pluto somewhat tough position for these celestial bodies

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Ami! many thanks
yes, Deja conj Pluto is a biggie
and NN conj Pluto excat is bigge too.
Thank you for putting my concerns to rest. For some reason I thought NN conj Pluto somewhat tough position for these celestial bodies


Dear Still Hopeful
It basically means that she will have to learn the lessons of Pluto. This would make her on a Plutonian path,you could say.
I would not say it is "bad" like Chiron ,Nessus or Deja for example.
These would be more challenging,you could say cuz they are "darker"
She will have to learn lessons of transformation and harnessing primal power for good.
I think the main thing with Pluto is learn to change and transform BEFORE Pluto forces it on you.
For you ,as her mother.Teach her to harness her OWN power,to embrace her own power and strength,not to give it to the outside for safe keeping.
Study Pluto and help her try to learn Pluto's lessons before they are forced on her from the outside
You are at SUCH an advantage cuz you know Astrology.
I can help with understanding Pluto.I did it the wrong way ,pretty much.
I learned quite a bit from that lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 19, 2011 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, you are so sweet!
i would love to know more about pluto.
In my chart pluto is in 10 house.
and I am dealing ALL OF MY LIFE with control issues.
My LO has Deja Conj PLUTO and CONJ NN EXACT! (0 degrees) in 1st house.
What is more interesting.
I have Pluto conj NN (EXACT) in synastry with Her Father. (I am pluto he is NN).
Talking about "Keeping in a family"

Yes, power/control issues are tough at least for me. All of my life I am dealing with controling men (starting from my dad). My Ex husband was controling as well. But at thet time I "did not know any better" so I allowd. whe time progressed, I developed my own opinions (some people would say late... but I have neptune widely conj Acs... which can pose some problem with identifying your own needs.
and Now I am dealing with my LO father. Who is trying so hard to control me and the situation. it is ugly and tiresome.

With my LO father we have PLUTO squire VENUS, MErCURY, MOON. SUN IN COMPOSITE.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Ami, you are so sweet!
i would love to know more about pluto.
In my chart pluto is in 10 house.
and I am dealing ALL OF MY LIFE with control issues.
My LO has Deja Conj PLUTO and CONJ NN EXACT! (0 degrees) in 1st house.
What is more interesting.
I have Pluto conj NN (EXACT) in synastry with Her Father. (I am pluto he is NN).
Talking about "Keeping in a family"

Yes, power/control issues are tough at least for me. All of my life I am dealing with controling men (starting from my dad). My Ex husband was controling as well. But at thet time I "did not know any better" so I allowd. whe time progressed, I developed my own opinions (some people would say late... but I have neptune widely conj Acs... which can pose some problem with identifying your own needs.
and Now I am dealing with my LO father. Who is trying so hard to control me and the situation. it is ugly and tiresome.

With my LO father we have PLUTO squire VENUS, MErCURY, MOON. SUN IN COMPOSITE.


What is LO Darling?
This is a complex issue.After you answer,I will think about what you said!

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Interesting indeed! The moon-nn guy which would come under the relationsip category ... this occurs in my 9th and his 5th house.

with your workmates - how did the DSC conj NN play out? And ASC conj NN? I see the ASC conjunct NN as being more of a soul relationship ... I would imagine it would be hard to not get too involved with this person?

I haven't looked at asteroids conjunct the NN .. at least not in a long time.

My co-worker - sun NN conjunction (with mercury) on second look also has my vertex square his NN which also opposes my POF.
His jupiter (which sits on his SN) conjuncts my POF exact. He is probably a very fortunate person in my life and I am lucky to have met someone like this. He is super supportive of me and is always encouraging me.

I never really thought of the siblings one either (probably because we dont have a choice hehe) but my brother and I haev mercury conjunct NN (his mercury my NN) in my third house. Very appropriate placements for a sibling - third house and mercury involved. My Pluto opposes this and sits on his SN. His Saturn and Juno sit on my SN! Weird lol
I haven't looked up any other asteroids though. My brother and I are super protective of each other as well and very family orientated. He is Gemini sun with Gemini rising and his ascendant are conjucnt my vertex and juno in cancer (he is late gemini rising).

We communicate extraordinarily well but I always thought that was because we grew up together.

Ariessun how did you relationship NN conjucntions play out, in particular the planets??


I will study this later. I am blocking on understanding Pholus.
I read it but can't distill it which you must do with the asteroids.
You have to distil the myth down to a key phrase.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesSun:
What do you think about pholus conj NN relations?

Those two examples that i had- only one is couple that i have more information than just a chart and that couple have had on-off relation but those have also chiron conj NN aspect and also that other's NN is in other's 2nd house -thing



Please talk about Pholus ,anyone,if you know!
I would love to understand it.
Read my post on Chiron conjunct NN on the other thread on NN Synastry.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LO: Little one

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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
LO: Little one

Ok lol
I will go back and look tomorrow

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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MsCandeh
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posted July 02, 2011 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesSun:
I'm sorry but my mother language isn't English so it would be nice if you could clarify your question(s) to me, thank you!

Are you asking about how my relationship is/were working with NN conjunctions?


Hi Ariessun! so sorry I took a while to respond.. I forgot about this thread when LL was offline!

You listed your relationships with people who had their planets conjunct with your NN. I was just wondering how these relationships played out and was hoping you could list your relationships with people who had a Planet (not an asteroid) conjunct your NN, and what happened?

Only if you feel you want to.

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