posted June 14, 2011 11:31 AM            

We have a lot of fun together at work. We aren't romantic, just good mates. He is married with kids so it is definitely NOT like that as well as him being 15 years older than me (though it doesn't feel like it). But honestly, probably the greatest person I have ever worked with and we make a great team. He is a very supportive co-worker and seems to look out for me a lot.

On top of this his Mercury conjuncts my NN by 2 deg.

He is very supportive of things that are good for me and seems to instinctively know?!

Other than this, and without a time of birth available to investigate further (he thinks astrology is all codswallop lol so I am not going to ask!) we have no other remarkable chart aspects. His Mars conjuncts my chart ruler, Uranus in my tenth. Our moons are in the same sign no matter the time of birth, and there is a chance they are conjunct, but maybe not.

There are some other aspects but I see the North Nodes ones in our charts as significant.

A search doesn't bring up much on this subject (apart from NN conj ASC !!)

Has anyone else experienced a planet conjunct NN synastry aspect and would you mind sharing your experiences? It can be any planet in tight conjunction with the other person's NN. Which one are you and how do you feel this may affect your relationship (whether it is platonic or romantic).

posted June 14, 2011 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
lol Super powers?!!!

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posted June 14, 2011 12:32 PM            

Its late here so I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully we can learn more because I am really fascinated by the NN in all aspects of astrology too.

posted June 14, 2011 08:21 PM            

I find him stuck up. I cannot stand stuck up men. Anything else I can deal with.... but this is a huge problem. But the more I try to avoid him, the more he acts like a retard to get my attention.
Because, the problem with stuck-up men is.... it's very difficult to get rid of them. They take everything as an ego-blow, and try to prove themselves. So the more you try to reject them (even if you do so nicely) -- the more they hang on for dear life.

My own Venus is on NN in Taurus... and his Sun/Mars in Taurus are conjunct.
It's all very close ^... Everything is at 0 to 1 degrees in Taurus.

posted June 15, 2011 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
My moon conjuncts a lot of people in my immediate generation's north nodes.. depending on the orb, the closer it is, and the closer I get to that person, I notice I begin to have a very interesting change in landscaping their emotional life, if that makes sense? I tend to leave the friendship/relationship with general fond memories, but I noticed its the nn person that tends to "revere" or idealize me after everything is said and done.

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That is very interesting. My experience is similar with only one person I have been close to. The r.ship didn't end on a great note but I guess it's not completely over either as we are still in contact occasionally. I have fond memories as well and feel comforted when I remember the good times we had together, it's like anything bad that may have happened isn't so important. This is the only time I have experienced a close NN moon conjunction with someone as there is a 7 year age gap. I don't know about the idealising on the part of the NN person though, but definitely in the beginning. How did they act when all was said and done? How do you know they idealised you?

posted June 15, 2011 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Well the person *I* work with... who has Sun on my NN.... hmm
I feel like we could've been friends in another life.. but we probably won't be friends in this one.

I find him stuck up. I cannot stand stuck up men. Anything else I can deal with.... but this is a huge problem. But the more I try to avoid him, the more he acts like a retard to get my attention.
Because, the problem with stuck-up men is.... it's very difficult to get rid of them. They take everything as an ego-blow, and try to prove themselves. So the more you try to reject them (even if you do so nicely) -- the more they hang on for dear life.

My own Venus is on NN in Taurus... and his Sun/Mars in Taurus are conjunct.
It's all very close ^... Everything is at 0 to 1 degrees in Taurus.

PS. I'm probably not the typical example.. because I also have Pluto in Scorpio on SN... and I think my interpretation of men with Sun/Mars in early Taurus... as "stuck up"/superficial and so forth --- is coming from my Pluto.

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lol totally different experience! Look at all that other planetary stuff going on... I guess it's sometimes hard to tell what is influencing what. Maybe it's the Mars-NN conjunction that is annoying ! or the venus/mars combo. (hidden sexual tension maybe? lol)

Funny because the first time I talked to my co-worker (who's sun cnojuncts my NN) we were working in different departments. I spoke to him on the phone when my boss was away because my boss said he could help me out if I got stuck. So I called him only once and for some reason actually remembered this experience (nothing mind blowing or anything) but I remember thinking.. sheesh.. this guy doesn't like me, he thinks I am an idiot. 6 months later we are working together in a small team, our desks are next to each other. I couldn't have been more wrong!

posted June 15, 2011 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have Pluto trine the NN -exact.I do feel as if I have a guiding hand helping me reach my goals, an invisible strength from somewhere.

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That's awesome. I can see that would definitely be a good thing.. I never thought of Pluto like that with NN. I am one of the people with tainted thinking that Pluto is all doom and gloom and change and intensity... probably because I have my own strong Pluto influences in Scorpio to deal with. It's nice to hear something positive. Especially with such a point in the chart like NN dealing with growth. Would you say that you are more focused on your goals because of this as well? Do you feel the trine soften the effects of Pluto and lessen the dramatic changes and difficult transitions that can come with pluto aspects? (especially related to your spiritual growth .. and life experience).

posted June 15, 2011 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ekf:
i feel the contact with the north node immediately and, for better or for worse, have a really hard time separating from those people. Which I guess is the point because they're supposed to be assisting you to your destiny so it's logical that you'd be drawn to keeping them around.

here's some useful old links on the topic.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203916.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007304.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204784-7.html

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Thanks for the links!

May I ask why you find it hard separating yourself from them? What makes it hard to let go? Does it matter what planet it is?

posted June 15, 2011 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Ami can you eleborate on your NN and Pluto trine.
My baby girl has NN CONJ Pluto EXACT in 1 st house

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Well,Still Hopeful, I have always had a sense that things would work out. It is a sense of a "force" that is with me.
This may not sound like Pluto but it is like there is a big energy and it is FOR me.It is on my side and will propel me where I need to go.
It is like I am in the ocean and I know the waves will take me where they know I need to go

PS I was just looking at this again.I am in the kind of situation I was in before.All the doors have closed and I need a window.
I need to trust as I always have, that the window is there and that I will find it!

posted June 15, 2011 05:08 PM            

is similar characteriscts represent NN Conj Pluto?

BTW: she is only 6 months old. But she has te most intense stare!. I contribute it to Pluto in 1st, even NN conj PLUTO.

posted June 16, 2011 04:46 AM            

First, I should probably qualify what I mean by can't let go of. It doesn't mean obsessively loving them (though one of them did) it meant that it was someone that you hoped would continue to be around because the fit is perfect.

I have a co-worker/employee who has his sun on my NN. He and I work together on creative stuff, but he unblocks my thinking in a way no one else can pushing me to come up with ideas that i had been struggling with for a long time. I recently moved him 9000km from where he was working for me, to come work with me. And as I was thinking about opening my own business, it was a given that he would come with me. I keep bringing him to new levels and, literally, changing his destiny and he helps bring light to my thinking about bigger things, different ways etc. (my nn in sag in 9th in natal, 5th in relocated chart)

another one I know we have venus - north node conjunction. this time his NN, my venus. he's a very buttoned up business man but the second we met we knew we needed to be friends forever. the only way i can describe him is dreamy and our relationship is platonic, but a luxury. when both of us want to really enjoy life we arrange to see each other and we have gorgeous lunches and talk. he makes me feel protected and cared for, and i remind him that life is fun and beautiful (conjunction in aquarius in my 11th house)

another one has his neptune conjunct my nn. Another immediate click. We both started pouring out the deep dark details of our lives with no judgement and connected on a very spiritual level. We talked about other lives, OBE's, karma etc. etc. and was probably the first person I was so open with about all of that stuff. For a second we thought we were going to become a serious couple but then the fog wore off and the 9 hour time difference and impossibility of seeing each other set in and we parted ways. But I miss the way we communicated, it was unique.

The last one - who was the one that stuck the most - has his Jupiter conjunct my NN. I was sure he was the "one" - actually still not convinced he's not. We were drawn to each other to meet (very cliche scene about eyes meeting across a crowded room, love at first site). We dated on and off for 2 years but we were both just separated from our respective spouses. His behavior became unacceptable and it ended. The experience, which was both gut wrenching and magnificent, has probably been one of the most important in my life and forced me to fix some of the deepest psychological wounds I had been carrying around with me. So while we can't be together, I'm not convinced that he's not part of my future.

posted June 16, 2011 09:45 AM            

Thanks for your detailed reply. I do understand exactly what you mean by can't let go. I have that feeling with somebody. I am sure (well intuition tells me) that he feels the same way but we have other karma to get through first and have separated for now.

I appreciate all the links you provided and read through them all. The way you have explained with HIS jupiter conjunct your NN is exactly how I feel about this guy who's NN conjuncts my moon.

I wrote about him when I was last posting a lot a year ago.

belgz wrote this in one of the links:

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When the Moon your chart forms an aspect to another person's North Node or South Node

When your Moon conjuncts your partner's North Node, you will be deeply affected by your relationship. Neither of you will forget each other, as this relationship is meaningful on a deep level to you both. There are life-size themes of nurturing and safety in this relationship. The Moon person expresses qualities that the North Node person, on a subconscious level, needs to develop in order to grow spiritually. The attraction can be intense, and the relationship itself will be a distinctly emotional connection. Issues of security, taking care of each other, and protection are dominant ones in this partnership. There is an instant bond between the two of you, almost as if this relationship feels "meant to be". The ties are strong, and the bond is hard to break. If you do part, both of you will feel attached to the memory of the relationship and the person, and if you were to meet again, you would not feel any distance between you. There is an instant attraction and sympathy between you. If there is discomfort in the relationship, it will likely come from the North Node person, as there is a sense of fatedness involved here. The Moon person may feel that he or she gives more emotionally than the North Node person at times, but will generally be comfortable with this role.

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Pretty much describes us. We have even talked about not forgetting each other. I think I asked him whether he had forgotten.. and he said he could never forget *tear*

I think no matter what there is definitely some sort of feeling of fatedness with a planet conjunct NN.

Though it seems with the SUN conjunct NN it just feels comfortable and not as fated?? Just easy. My co worker and I (sun conjunct NN) joke a lot and spur each other on.. we are clowns together hehe and it makes the daily grind so much easier to bear. But we also are good at running the show as well and bounce ideas off each other, srsly the best person I have ever worked with! I have had a couple of dreams about him, and the dreams were him hugging me (I felt comforted).. I have never told anyone this. But it was definitely not sexual or anything!!! It was strange. I have been going through a hard time latey so it could be a sense of feeling comforted. I'm not sure how to interpret it.

posted June 16, 2011 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Ami, thank you

is similar characteriscts represent NN Conj Pluto?

BTW: she is only 6 months old. But she has te most intense stare!. I contribute it to Pluto in 1st, even NN conj PLUTO.

Ami. she also has Deja conj Pluto EXACT

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WOW that is Big. She will be strong and be able to defend herself.
I have Deja conjunct Pluto but 3 degrees.It takes me a while to stand up for myself but i am working on it lol
Yes,she will be a warrior girl

posted June 16, 2011 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
That's awesome. I can see that would definitely be a good thing.. I never thought of Pluto like that with NN. I am one of the people with tainted thinking that Pluto is all doom and gloom and change and intensity... probably because I have my own strong Pluto influences in Scorpio to deal with. It's nice to hear something positive. Especially with such a point in the chart like NN dealing with growth. Would you say that you are more focused on your goals because of this as well? Do you feel the trine soften the effects of Pluto and lessen the dramatic changes and difficult transitions that can come with pluto aspects? (especially related to your spiritual growth .. and life experience).

Do you think this would be translated similarly into synastry as well?

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I am a blessed person.With all I have been through,I am led by a Force.I always have been.
I just need to let go more and let It lead me.
I associate Pluto with the ocean of life.It's primal tides push and pull you.
You get in to trouble when you resist.
IF you resist, Pluto will unearth you.
If you go WITH him.he will rejuvenate you

posted June 16, 2011 10:14 AM            

I guess we can derive from this that no matter if you are the NN or planet person both of you are deeply affected by the interaction, and there is some sense of loss when you separate from that person (whether you are missing the way you communicated, or missing their presence in your life etc).

There are people I have been close to where we naturally parted ways and I havent felt any great sense of loss. The worst sense of loss is the moon-nn. We have to have occasional contact for work purposes and he ended it with us (he was the NN). It's not completely over even though he is still with the ex gf he broke up with me for (complex!). I spoke with him on the phone a couple of weeks ago and he was very very nervous and I was my happy la la la self just talking as I would to anyone I deal with at work who I know well. He was completly stuttering .. I dont understand because I feel he is the 'better' one, but I got to say I guess a bit of a power thing came in(intense other planetary aspectS) When we were together I also felt like I wasn't 'allowed' to get too close to him otherwise I would fall into a big well of .. I dont know.. emotion? It's like I had to be on my behaviour and keep my emotions fairly in check. I was sort of scared as well.. I feel deeply but am not used to gushing it and he is not the gushy type. But this is where the other planets start playing their role (saturn square saturn exact, venus square saturn exact.. urgh I felt SO SMALL). But I find it interesting that he appears to be intimidated by me now.. espeically when he told me that he never thought he could 'get a girl' like me and the fact he did must have been some sort of achievement?! (I dont understand because the thought of making someone feel that I am 'unattainable' makes me feel uneasy.. I consider myself a really approachable and empathetic person who can takl to anyone about anything). Anyway I am getting off topic here.

It seems that the moon-nn has the stronger pull than the venus square saturn aspect, (we also have venus opposite pluto aspect (2 deg)) and I think the poor NN is a bit scared of all this intensity.. also he is a gemini LOL. Poor love. But even with all this stuff underneath the surface we were always happy and bubbly and joking together. I felt so small bcause I guess I made him to be better than myself in my mind (my natal venus opposite saturn at play).. he was the typical guy who took care of me and I loved being taken care of. He really cared for and loved me. I know this. Unfortunately the ex GF (a scorpio) decided she wanted him after 10 years and then did her sneaky scorpio thing all the while me being totally trusting and oblivious and happy in love. I started to notice weird things and when I questioned it he just suddently ended it.. but turned up to work then complaining why I didnt invite him out to lunch with me anymore. Its been the weirdest thing. But the residual.. out of all of this... is a feeling of love and care for each other and wishing each other well. I really feel that this is the Moon-NN conjunction at play. So even though it's not OVER and I dearly miss his daily presence in my life... we can't be together again because trust was broken. But we feel connected as well... even though he was the one who totally stuffed things up with us it seems HE can't let go. I find it hard not to interact with him when he talks to me. I really do. Anyone else who treated me in this way would not get the time of day from me. So that's what makes me wonder about this NN -Moon conjunction. His moon also sits on my ASC and my sun on his ASC and I guess this may play a part too.

posted June 16, 2011 10:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am a blessed person.With all I have been through,I am led by a Force.I always have been.
I just need to let go more and let It lead me.
I associate Pluto with the ocean of life.It's primal tides push and pull you.
You get in to trouble when you resist.
IF you resist, Pluto will unearth you.
If you go WITH him.he will rejuvenate you

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I love your analogies ami, they really speak to me.. it's like you can verbalise these descriptions in such a way that it is totally in tune with how I feel.

posted June 16, 2011 10:39 AM            

b) DCS conj NN

e.g. 2: Couple
a) Vertex/uranus conj NN
Lilith conj NN

b) MC conj NN

c) Vesta conj NN

d) Pholus conj NN

e) Chiron conj NN
Pholus conj NN

f) Vesta conj NN
Juno conj NN

e.g. 3: Long lasting friendship
a) ASC conj NN 1st

b) ASC conj NN 12th house
Pallas conj NN

c) Venus conj NN
ASC conj NN 12th house
DSC conj NN

d) Mars conj NN
Juno conj NN

e.g. 4: Siblings
a) Uranus conj NN
Lilith conj NN

b) Uranus conj NN

c) DSC conj NN

e.g. 6: Helping each other (giving advices)
Mars conj NN

Interesting!
And when I'm looking those charts and think about these persons and those relations i can see that DSC conj NN can be quite difficult

And when looking up houses i can see that when we are talking about marriage there can be NN in other person's 2nd house or in relationship houses 5th, 7th, 9th are quite general places to NN too when talking about couples

posted June 16, 2011 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
I love your analogies ami, they really speak to me.. it's like you can verbalise these descriptions in such a way that it is totally in tune with how I feel.

You could translate this to any aspect that pluto may make in your life. Go with the flow. Something that my scorpio mars conjunct MC opposite sun finds hard to do! The thing about pluto is that the changes he brings are totally transformational... going through constant transformation is tiring as well. I think this is why some of us can get weary of it? Maybe if you don't resist then the inevitable transformations are made easier? Not sure! But definitely something to work towards.

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Aww Thank you for your post MsCandeh.

I do not look graceful as I change.I look downright ugly,usually.
However, I respect Pluto's power too much to resist him.
When he prods me,I open myself and say "Take me,JUST as I am"
He does and when he is done ,I am a little prettier, a little sweeter and a little wiser.