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MsCandeh
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posted June 26, 2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
Serial killers don't just target hitchhikers, they also go for prostitutes or drug addicts: easy prey. No one would notice or care if they disappeared. And trust me, it still happens all the time. Just because a prostitute getting murdered doesn't make headline news anymore, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The flavor of the decade for News Media are sex scandals. In the 90s it was kidnappings. 80s it was serial murders.


1. I did mention people other than hitchhikers, eg prostitutes.
2. I never said it didn't exist.

Maybe not hearing about it is more is a result of media focusing on different things, but with half the crizzap on the news nowadays I bet they'd jump at the opportunity of a serial killer story.

I watched a documentary on serial killers only the other night, so it's not forgotten.

I never said it didn't happen anymore, but I still don't think it happens AS often as previously, at least the ones that preyed on the hitchhikers/prostutes etc because people generally have their wits about them more now and thank goodness for mobile phones!!

Car won't start? No way am I going to be waving down a stranger, I'll use my phone thanks. That's how the Birnie's got one of their victims.

eg Eileen Wuornos... she would have more success now as she is female and considered 'safe'. It was like the opposite of what typically happens (women serial killers only make up 1 or 2% of serial killers) where the hunter became the hunted. This situation could easily repeat itself but the chances are significantly lessened because of the incidence of women serial killers being so small.

Also, most serial killers start off with smaller crimes like rape, assault etc. As I said earlier, advances in forensics/technology often has them reprimanded for these crimes before they have a chance to go on and cause further harm.

And of course it depends on the country as of course the advances in forensics /technology etc aren't happening everywhere. I feel we may hear of more of these sorts of cases happening in other less advanced countries. I can't remember when he was caught but there was that Russian one who must have at least 30 + victims (I think it may have gone up to 64) where he put them down the sewers. That was in the 2000's I think but can't remember what year he was caught.

It does still happen though, I agree, like the incidents in NYC recently.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
At least you can look at his pic and say "evil", the ones that scare me are the common looking types, or, gasp, even good looking.

The worst thing is that he never even thought that what he was doing, was evil... Some people just have seriously warped and glorified images of themselves. Fritzl condoned what he did to his daughter and (grand)children by telling (himself, perhaps?) that he was teaching her a lesson.


Just... sick.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was 19 it was around June of 92...... I had just had my daughter, she was only a few weeks old...

I was leaving my apt, going to the store...

I put my key in the car door, and a car pulled up and blocked my car.. I turned and looked at the car, a male was in the drivers seat.. I looked him dead in the eye.. I had a very deep sense of evil! It consumed my entire being.. I felt immediate fear, I could see blackness all around him...
My head said RUN like HELL!! So I did... I ran the opposite way he was parked, he put the car in reverse, and was chasing me, through my apt complex parking lot while driving in reverse... He was driving FAST in reverse through the lot.... I made it to the gate, and I ran in and shut it.. He then peeled out!.. I went and called the police..

OMg I know this guy was evil.. To feel that evil near you, was an eye opener.
I never knew what evil felt like..
I cant imagine living like that.. Whats really inside of these people.
The darkness, the hate, the evil...

I dont know what causes that.. But always listen and if you feel evil, run from it.. Never ever dismiss it!
Its pure darkness, a black soul with no regards to anything or anyone...

It will be the most consuming feeling you could ever feel.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And of course it depends on the country as of course the advances in forensics /technology etc aren't happening everywhere.

That may be true, in the wikipedia articles I posted a lot of recent serial killers were from South America.

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posted June 26, 2011 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
Violence in video games don't make people more or less violent. I wonder where you got that information.

I never said it did.

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posted June 27, 2011 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
When I was 19 it was around June of 92...... I had just had my daughter, she was only a few weeks old...

I was leaving my apt, going to the store...

I put my key in the car door, and a car pulled up and blocked my car.. I turned and looked at the car, a male was in the drivers seat.. I looked him dead in the eye.. I had a very deep sense of evil! It consumed my entire being.. I felt immediate fear, I could see blackness all around him...
My head said RUN like HELL!! So I did... I ran the opposite way he was parked, he put the car in reverse, and was chasing me, through my apt complex parking lot while driving in reverse... He was driving FAST in reverse through the lot.... I made it to the gate, and I ran in and shut it.. He then peeled out!.. I went and called the police..

OMg I know this guy was evil.. To feel that evil near you, was an eye opener.
I never knew what evil felt like..
I cant imagine living like that.. Whats really inside of these people.
The darkness, the hate, the evil...

I dont know what causes that.. But always listen and if you feel evil, run from it.. Never ever dismiss it!
Its pure darkness, a black soul with no regards to anything or anyone...

It will be the most consuming feeling you could ever feel.


Why did I get the feeling he was probably going to do you like Ted Bundy, or possibly even worse...?

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posted June 27, 2011 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
When I was 19 it was around June of 92...... I had just had my daughter, she was only a few weeks old...

I was leaving my apt, going to the store...

I put my key in the car door, and a car pulled up and blocked my car.. I turned and looked at the car, a male was in the drivers seat.. I looked him dead in the eye.. I had a very deep sense of evil! It consumed my entire being.. I felt immediate fear, I could see blackness all around him...
My head said RUN like HELL!! So I did... I ran the opposite way he was parked, he put the car in reverse, and was chasing me, through my apt complex parking lot while driving in reverse... He was driving FAST in reverse through the lot.... I made it to the gate, and I ran in and shut it.. He then peeled out!.. I went and called the police..

OMg I know this guy was evil.. To feel that evil near you, was an eye opener.
I never knew what evil felt like..
I cant imagine living like that.. Whats really inside of these people.
The darkness, the hate, the evil...

I dont know what causes that.. But always listen and if you feel evil, run from it.. Never ever dismiss it!
Its pure darkness, a black soul with no regards to anything or anyone...

It will be the most consuming feeling you could ever feel.


Why did I get the feeling he was probably going to do you like Ted Bundy, or possibly even worse...?

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posted June 27, 2011 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk who this person was.. But yes I do know he was pure evil... I knew I had to get away..

I had just had my daughter, she was only about 3 weeks old, so I was still in the healing process from child birth, and wasnt able to run to much.. But let me tell you I got my azz running as fast as possible, and luckily he was in reverse, and I turned a corner, which is probably what saved me... If he would have jumped out of the car, he would have caught me.. I dont think I would have been able to get away..

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posted November 09, 2016 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:

I was thinking Pluto also, but not transits.. The killers in the 70'80's has natal Pluto in Leo.. In the 70.80's. They would have been 20-30ish

Im thinking pluto in Leo or Cancer must me a a rough place..

I know this generation and me.. Most of their Pluto's are dead on my Leo Stellium..
I had soooo many issues with this generation..

This generation was my teachers,mom, aunt, mom's friends... etc...


A bump but I noticed some possible indicators.

A lot of serial killers were Pluto in Leo (Bundy, Gacy, Rader, Kenneth Bianchi, William Bolin, Ottis Toole, etc.), though some had Pluto in Cancer (Henry Lee Lucas, Angelo Buono, David Carpenter) and Pluto in Virgo (Dahmer, Cleophus Prince). The main things in common are that they were active before the technology age (hence the lack of Pluto Libra and Pluto Scorpio killers, as game systems like N64 and PlayStation were around when the Pluto Libras became that age and there's now Xbox along with PlayStation and Wii) and that they usually had bad childhoods (this was when a Pluto generation was raised by the one before for the most part, as Leo and Cancer semi sextile each other, as do Cancer and Gemini, which means that the differences in generational values are not compatible, which would be made worse with abuse and poor parenting. Pluto Virgo was the first generation in the modern era raised mainly by parents whose Pluto sextiled theirs). I know Gacy was raised by Gemini Plutos and Bundy was raised by Gemini Pluto grandparents after his Cancer Pluto mom gave him to them because she wasn't married, but this link is very interesting and might explain this:
http://pdftreatment.com/r/richardpublishing.com1.html

I know that it doesn't apply to every single person born in those eras, but I find it interesting that most of these killers were born in the "compassionless" generations (as are most of today's politicians, Hitler, and the mobsters like Dillinger and Capone), as are the people who raised them. That may be a possible indicator, even though there are good and bad people in every Pluto era.

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posted November 09, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus was in Scorpio in the 1970's. And Pluto was in Scorpio in the 1980's.

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posted November 10, 2016 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the majority of the major US politicians can be counted as serial killers. at the very least extremely power craving and war hungry people who are thirsty for bloodshed. do your own research, because I'm not exaggerating.

the very mass murderer of today is the Daesh mother. the creator, planner and supplier of the ISIS, Hillary Clinton (as she's so proud of which she clearly states in her own book!). mars conjunct pluto at 15 degrees leo, the most violent degree in the zodiac. an extremely violent woman who is responsible for the deaths of thousands innocent men, women and children in the middle east. so is Netanyahu the war criminal. these two are masked devils. let's hope trump won't join them.

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posted November 10, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think technology today have made it much easier for them to "research" as opposed to just standing in a bush and jump on prey. If I wanted to become a serial killer this would be the time and Internet would be my friend..
But really, not many would raise an eyebrow when just "another human" vanished or got killed. ISIS takes a lot of media attention it seems.

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posted November 10, 2016 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many drugs hahaha!

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