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Topic: Childlessness
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Lehia2
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Registered: May 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 05:31 PM
  
I'll go ahead and add another choice: - Not interested in having children. Never liked children. Don't wish to have the responsibility and feel tied down due to the fact that I have a familiy. I always thought this is my cappy moon (sq. saturn? ), an empty 4th and 5th house. I'm a cancer sun btw.
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frankie2912
Knowflake Posts: 32
From: yep,ks,usa
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 05:44 PM
Taineberry: Here are my answers for you  I have never really been interested in being a parent, never have been and probably never will be. First of all, pregnancy and childbirth freak me out and I do not want to ever go through with that. Also, kids would take up too much of my freedom, money, and energy..I want to be able to get up and go and do whatever I want, whenever I want, without having to worry about kids. Also - I think it's selfish to keep having children in a world that is overpopulating itself anyway. I LIKE kids but don't WANT any. So..astrological reasons for my views? No idea! But these are some of my aspects and info that might indicate my perspective: Mars is right on my 5th house cusp, and I have Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, and Chiron squared my Mars. Not sure how that would factor in, but it might. My 5th house ruler, Neptune, is in my 2nd house conjunct my Sun and Mercury. Maybe that explains my worry about children taking up my money? My 4th house (ruled by Cancer, the moon, so motherly things) is Aquarius..so perhaps this is why I feel so detached to motherly things, that they are almost "alien" to me. My MOON is in my 2nd house conjunct Saturn..maybe this is placing restriction my own potential motherhood. Also, my MOON is in Sagittarius so naturally I want to be free and never tied down..NEVER!! Jupiter is in my 4th house but it is square my Moon. Another restrictive factor in mothering. I have never thought about anything in my chart revealing why I don't want kids..until now. Very mind opening! Thank you for starting such an intriguing topic  IP: Logged |
Taineberry
Knowflake Posts: 81
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 05, 2011 04:43 AM
Thanks for your insightful replies. Wow, this is such a complex issue as the motivations are so diverse, however I think I am starting now to understand some of the things to look out for in a chart. Your help is much appreciated.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
Knowflake Posts: 169
From: Someday in London...
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 05, 2011 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
OK, this is a sensitive topic, I know. But in the interests of research, is there anyone out there who does not have children and does not expect to ever have them?Please could you give planets, houses and aspects that you think are relevant to this in Natal, and also indicate if your reasons are : A - you simply are not interested in being a parent, never have been and never will be. B - you secretly or openly would love to be a parent, but have sacrificed this desire in favour of pleasing a spouse/partner who does not want children. C- you would love to have children, but have a biological problem which makes this very difficult to achieve. D - you would love to have children, but just don't see yourself as ever being in a relationship of the type that would make that possible. Please also give any synastry aspects that might be revealing - especially if you have chosen not to have children because your partner does not want them.
A is out of discussion for me. Always wanted to have kids.
B is again out of discussion. If I want to have kids and he doesnt I would have them anyway even if I'll be a single mother.
C is available right now in my case. Unfortunately.
D is no comment. I have Jupiter in 5th house in Pisces trining Sun in Cancer, opposite Moon in Virgo, squaring Mercury, Venus, Uranus. I have also the Uranus transit în 5th house for a couple of years. IP: Logged |
LanaofAugust
Knowflake Posts: 180
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2011 05:06 AM
IMO it would be best to study the charts of old people who never had any children - their charts show the real, materialized situation.
~ Lana
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Taineberry
Knowflake Posts: 81
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 05, 2011 05:28 AM
Yeah Lana, that is a good point. Anyone out there who is looking at this from the more mature end of the age spectrum?IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
Knowflake Posts: 800
From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted July 05, 2011 10:36 AM
taineberry do you want to see a chart of someone who NEVER EVER wanted children but has one anyway? He never wants to meet his child even now at 50. I can just point out his aspects if that would be of any help.IP: Logged |
Taineberry
Knowflake Posts: 81
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 05, 2011 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
taineberry do you want to see a chart of someone who NEVER EVER wanted children but has one anyway? He never wants to meet his child even now at 50. I can just point out his aspects if that would be of any help.
MsCandeh - yes that would be great. I would love to see it. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
Knowflake Posts: 40
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Registered: May 2010
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posted July 05, 2011 02:25 PM
Hi
Is 37 the mature age range as 40 is usually a late time to have kids. I won't be having kids, I get on with them great (progressed neptune in 5th) and people trust me with their kids and say I am a natural but I need time to myself (this is not selfishness but a need from being too self sacrificing in the past). Someone else posted they have an afflicted moon and they managed to have kids. Well it was 2 major aspects and 2 minor, mine has pluto in hard aspect, moon square mars, moon square mercury, moon square saturn. That is 4 major aspects, very difficult, especially when my mercury is just as afflicted. This is for sure the reason preventing me having kids, and having a child would not 'heal' me. I don't feel I am missing out at all as I get plenty of interaction with friends and their kids. Also uranus in 5th plays a part in not having kids.
In the progressed chart the moon and mercury are doing a lot better and not nearly as afflicted but don't want to bring someone else's kids up, don't want to adopt and just don't want kids. The world population is big enough as it is.
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pisces moon
Knowflake Posts: 73
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Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 07, 2011 10:56 AM
I have always wanted one child. No more, no less. I've always been around children as sort of a second mother and I loved helping to raise all of them but I always felt I was missing out on not having one of my own.By the time I was 31, I reconciled myself to the 'fact' it just wasn't meant to be. I had never even been pregnant and not from lack of trying. Then when I was 32 I met someone who has twins that run in his family. Both he and his brother have twins and he has Uncles who are twins. Didn't skip a generation. And wouldn't you know, within three months of being with him, I was pregnant. Now, this wasn't a planned thing. I really believed I couldn't have children of my own so it was a shock. And what's more my son was concived either on my 33rd birthday or very close to it. I was carrying twins but I miscarried one very early on. At the time I didn't know that. I had thought I was pregnant but then I got what I thought was my period and it produced a real funky blood clot. There was white stuff running through it. So, I went on with life not thinking any more of it and glad I didn't say anything about my suspicions. The next month though there was no doubt I was pregnant. I couldn't even keep my eyes open for more than a couple hours at a time and I had no energy whatsoever. We went on a trip and I didnt' even bother to pack pads even though I was due for my period. When I got home I took the test and yep. My son's due date was the 6th. I had him on the 2nd and when he came out the doctor announced he looked to be a week or so late. I was in fact pregnant when I first suspected and when I had that funky period. I have Virgo sun conjunct Jupiter in the 5th. Hanging out on the other side of the house is Mars in Leo. The conjunction also conjuncts with Pluto (6th) and trines both the midheaven (cap) and ascendant (Taurus) while Mars squares the ascendant and Neptune (Scorpio) and trines Saturn.(Aries) IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
Knowflake Posts: 2454
From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2011 03:08 PM
I actually have a co-worker who loves kids (duh, Pediatric floor) but never ended up having them. I have a D.O.B. for her, but no time unfortunately. IP: Logged |
samsaoule
Knowflake Posts: 131
From: world
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 07, 2011 04:12 PM
I am too busy caring about my own inner wounded child to care about real ones. Uranus in H5, Pluto in H4 square H5 ruler Venus. Pluto opposite moon (etc). Besides, i am gay, which does not help either. Actually, i gave up very early the idea of having children. It is just not programmed for this life and i accept this as a fact. We may never know till the end, as says the Sage, but i have the feeling it will never happen.IP: Logged |
sand
Knowflake Posts: 355
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Registered: May 2011
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posted July 07, 2011 04:22 PM
how would you even know if you are meant to have them in your chart? ah i guess i'm asking the opposite of the topic. i kinda thought people had them when they got bored. like when they've traveled enough, have security, had enough sex. (okay i keep my strange thoughts to myself now ehehe!) i didn't know people had a strong urge to have mini me's from the get go. plus i feel da presha coz it's the "normal" thing to do. but i guess it's becoming less of the norm. dis chinese reading sucks. i am almost sure mine will be brats LOL! "You will give birth to children who are difficult to be educated, controlled and communicated. They will be talkative little chaps."
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samsaoule
Knowflake Posts: 131
From: world
Registered: May 2011
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posted July 07, 2011 04:36 PM
"You will give birth to children who are difficult to be educated, controlled and communicated. They will be talkative little chaps."
Good luck, then!  All those 10 kids around you, jumping, crying,shouting while you try watching TV... IP: Logged |
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