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Topic: Saturn in the 12th house
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nordicsoul
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posted July 06, 2011 04:06 PM
  
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I think you're referring to the OP here because I didn't say anything of the sort. I meant that the person with strong mercury/3rd house influence is more of a DIY (Do-it-yourself) learner due to gemini and the 3rd house being more personal as opposed to collective like Sag and the 9th house. They do generally like to learn so they aren't exactly 'bad' at school, but when Mystic first posed this theory it revealed alot of people who believed they could learn more on their own than they ever could in a classroom. Its kind of why I like to think of the first four signs as the self-sufficient signs now. *edited for gramatical errors. Ugh, English is *so* not my favorite language.
I agree with your explanation. Actually, in spite of having going to school so many times, i believe that whatever i know has been self-learned. actually, i find that the only thing i got from these institutions was the dregrees, but learning was just me and my books... IP: Logged |
insideintrovert
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posted July 07, 2011 12:29 PM
I have Saturn in Taurus in the 12th. My father was never around and he still thinks I don't exist. There is some kind of denial that over him being my parent. His mom put it in his mind that the kids he had with my mom around somebody else's and she used him to trap him. Which is not true.I finished High school and went to get a professional cooking diploma and a home health aide certificate. The school thing didn't happen here. I find that I really need my alone time to re-energize. That is all I have found with this placement in my chart. I also have Moon sextile Saturn and Pluto trine Saturn. Though Saturn square my north node and MC in Aqua....The need to be alone wins out of social time. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 07, 2011 04:19 PM
Saturn in 12th here so close to ascendant that it can also be interpreted in 1st. By progression it seems to be in 11th?I think it is a great placement for Saturn, isn't Saturn well placed here (in his joy). Far far worse is mars in 12th and I have that too and it is a horrible placement, I must have done something really bad in a prior life cause my lovely strong venus only mitigates it so much! Also really harsh and unfair is saturn square pluto, i read on astrofix it is about deep passion, suffering and disappointments, Yes, yes and yes. Far too idealistic in the past! I agree with Visions that some great leaders have this, B Obama being one such person. IP: Logged |
maira
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posted July 07, 2011 04:50 PM
Saturn in the 12th is in its joy, not the "sufferers" joy. It wreaks the most havoc there, planet of structure in the house of unstructured oblivion.
A fellow sufferer  IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 07, 2011 05:08 PM
Thank goodness it is now in the 11th then!!IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted July 07, 2011 05:24 PM
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/houses/saturn-12.html This interpretation is interesting too.
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Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
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posted July 07, 2011 08:55 PM
And some of the leaders named in that previous post have suffered alot of public scrutiny and lynching. You may get places with this placement, but there won't be an easy road.
---signed, another fellow sufferer. 
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zodiacexpert
Newflake Posts: 16
From: Philadelphia,PA USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted August 07, 2011 09:02 AM
lol.
It's karma hitting you from left field! Getting the rug pulled out rom under your feet when you least expect it for patterns of thought and behaviour that were your little safebox of secret misdeeds you weren't even aware might be wrong or hurtfull at the time and u figured u got away with long lost history of impulsive out of the box obsesive neptunian fantasy behaviour. Then wham in your eye's are forced open in a not so delicate way maybe over and over again so depending how quickyou are on the uptake this could be quite a harrowing experience but if you use astrology as a map of map of tendancies good and bad you incarnated with and see what u need to strenghthen and overcome in this round as opposed to a tool for manipulation only this can be handled in such a way as to overcome your lower animal tendancies tho they have an importance in existance in our predicament and develope your true divine heritage. remember astrology is mostly symbolized by animals and elemants things of this gross heavy material realm we as light beings came to experience as it can only be done here. I'd say bottom line its about learning to get a grip on impulsive obsessive behaviour and learning to see there are repercussions to every decision saturn is the lord of karma the dweller onthe threshhold to paradise! IP: Logged |
zodiacexpert
Newflake Posts: 16
From: Philadelphia,PA USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted August 07, 2011 11:23 AM
And on the subject of the state of public education in urban america it has devolved tremendously It's basically an inhuman programming system aimed at churning out a bunch of preprogrammed wage slaves at a time when the whole economic structure is being deconstructed so the traditionaljobs just arent there. The rich send their kids to private schools and segregate themseves whie feeling good about their liberality by forcing middle and lower class folks to integrate there kids with kids from slums And from what I'e seen it doesn't lift up the standards of the lower classes but lowers the whole environment for everyone. I personally would not send my dog into one of these hell holes fueled by politics and unions. I think the futue of schooling will be drasticly changed by the internet with 90% online we're seeing that already.And college and university are basically interchangeable in the states especially at the undergraduate bachelors degree level university being used mostly by more prestigeous schools specialising in postgraduate masters phd studies etc so just a differrence of semantics and prestigeIP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted August 10, 2011 02:43 AM
a 12th house Saturn is often an indication of the lack of a good role model father and here it is triply emphasised being on the point of a T Square.just found the above on marjorie orr's website star4cast IP: Logged |
zodiacexpert
Newflake Posts: 16
From: Philadelphia,PA USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted August 10, 2011 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
a 12th house Saturn is often an indication of the lack of a good role model father and here it is triply emphasised being on the point of a T Square.just found the above on marjorie orr's website star4cast
Wow that insidious Tsquare this chart is classic your assessment is so right on its a home run I must check Orr's site out
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cappy1277
Knowflake Posts: 645
From: philadelphia,pa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 06:22 PM
Hey sara- I replied to you in sweet peas. But I do remember the big fuss @ NE about the uniform enforcement. There was even a lawsuit about it. I think more of your generation is about non-conformity. My son dropped out also due to the same issues. He's working now & much happier.IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted August 10, 2011 06:25 PM
Just wondering, are you guys using the whole house or Placius system?
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