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Topic: Women: Have you cheated on your man before?
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jwhite997
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posted July 05, 2011 09:24 PM
  
If so, what of your natal chart do you think contributed to your infidelity?Thanks. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted July 05, 2011 09:27 PM
I'm sure it's no help to you but I've never even came close to cheating on my fiance. <3 He's the bomb.Interesting question. Would it only be pertinent to women's charts or would men's charts show the same information?
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Lonake
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posted July 05, 2011 09:45 PM
Never have I cheated, not even a kiss. I imagine cheaters make things very complicated. I would much rather end the relationship and then move on. Clean and simple.
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A woman I knew who cheated as if no big deal, repeatedly lied and defied her partners to leave her after she told the lies, it's actually SICK how she talked to her partners as if they're the crazy ones for thinking that she would have done such a thing:
-Sun opposed Moon, both t square to Neptune (always that hard Neptune for deceit)
-Venus conj Mars in Leo (high sex drive, many partners who were interested)
-Venus/Mars sextile Pluto, Venus/Pluto combo responsible for love triangles
-Mercury loose square with Neptune (classic liar)
-Moon trine Uranus (woman's chart needing variety and change, in fire signs this need is heightened so excessive need for stimulation)
-Jupiter conj Uranus in fire also pointing to lack of attention span and need for stimulation, this is the aspect of always on the lookout for a 'better opportunity' as the native never knows when something better may pop up around the corner so they feel they need to be on constant watch.There are actually many reasons that would lead someone to cheat on their mate, so this is just one example: high drive, need for variety, availability of many partners, lack of inhibition. Also, she had Pluto conj Saturn in Scorp conj Asc, and it should be known she was molested for a while by her stepfather, acknowledged that she enjoyed all of it, and it just so happened that her father figures did her no favors in terms of rearing her in a responsible manner. Her biological father was murdered under mysterious circumstances (again, Neptune). IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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From: philadelphia,pa
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posted July 05, 2011 09:46 PM
Lack of stimulation- intellectually or physically- gemini moon & aquarius venus. The cap in me (sun & mars) & taurus rising makes me stay for the consistency that I mistake for stability.IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 05, 2011 09:47 PM
omg is it really true that venus/pluto connections make for love triangles??? cuz i have a pluto/mars conjunction sextile venus/saturn/neptune------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted July 05, 2011 09:49 PM
I have to add that I've never cheated in my current relationship.  only other relationship that I didn't cheat was with an aquarius who I had my kids with.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 05, 2011 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
omg is it really true that venus/pluto connections make for love triangles??? cuz i have a pluto/mars conjunction sextile venus/saturn/neptune
Are they common for you? There is that 3rd party always wanting to butt in, usually. It doesn't have to be a person, but there is someone or something that just tries to make the relationship full of drama, could be someone from the past in either your memory or your partners, someone who is on the back burner, a real affair, it could be a lot of things here.I have the square, and I have made it a point to NEVER introduce the men I date to anyone else I know to completely avoid this as I sensed it very early on that many people wanted to have their say about my love life and I wanted it to be private. And I guess it's a habit now because I don't plan on changing this, so it's something that partners have to accept, no matter if they want to introduce me to their family, etc., my privacy means too much, it's too painful for other people or things to be involved. The relationship for Venus/Pluto is the lover and the beloved, and that's all, ideally. Even the woman I wrote of, her eternal 3rd party was always the man who fathered her first child [who subsequently died while in her grandmother's care (SIDS).] This ex partner was always on her mind, no matter if she was with her current partner or physically cheating on her current partner with another, no matter. So there is a not-so-obvious example but still fits, she claims she was in love with him and always hopes to return to him and he is of course always on her mind. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 05, 2011 10:04 PM
ooh i see...does my mom count when she tries to give me advice that never seems to help??she always thinks that the guy i'm dating at the time has suspicious behavior and she never gets that i would never make myself a victim of anything...she thinks i'm just trying to be tough and insists shes just trying to protect me....i think i learned enough from her own mistakes to never do what she did ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 05, 2011 10:12 PM
Venus is typically what the woman learns from the mother in terms of being a young sexual fertile female. She may be acting out the Venus/Saturn, as Saturn is quite suspicious, but then again so is Pluto, Saturn/Pluto combo is actually rather protective. The protection that she is showing you in terms of concern, in her opinion, may seem to you as if you would like to move forward and lead your own passionate life while she is there in the wings saying 'watch out.' I think she may just be serving as a sort of guidepost for you now, and later on or now even you can internalize her message for future reference and throw away the rest and move on without her concern, if that means keeping some facts or relationships hidden, so be it. I know many parents can be overwhelmingly intrusive, if she has strong Pluto, or even Saturn in her chart, it could be a way of keeping you tied to her. I've gone on long enough about this, but as time goes on it should resolve itself, try to talk to her on an adult to adult level, that may put her in her place if you're feeling intruded upon. Parents will stay in 'parenting mode' as long as their children stay in 'child mode.' Adult-to-adult is so much easier for both, if they're open to the change, as it's a big change.IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 05, 2011 10:17 PM
i cant tell you how many times i try to talk to her like an adult...and how easily it all falls from under me (especially considering my leo moon)....with my most recent relationship i kept most of it to myself, especially when we had broken up (then again, i'm always like that with break ups)edit: sorry to have gone on and on on your thread jwhite...  ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
jwhite997
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posted July 05, 2011 10:26 PM
It's ok. This website is mostly populated by women, after all!
Feel free to be yourselves.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 05, 2011 10:35 PM
O i just noticed you're new? Welcome, hope you find your niche here.IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted July 05, 2011 10:37 PM
i haven't ever cheated, but i have always been tempted and could see myself doing so.i have a lot of uranus squares in my chart...square mars, mercury, jupiter..i don't know if that's it. i hate to feel tied down and often lose interest after the thrill of the chase is done. IP: Logged |
jwhite997
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posted July 06, 2011 12:01 AM
What are your impressions of this chart? Can any of you find suspicions of infidelity?
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Ami Anne
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posted July 06, 2011 12:56 AM
Interesting Chart Jwhite
I will look tomorrow
Lonkae--Wonderful info as usual Darling  What would Saturn/Pluto conjunct in the composite in the 1st house be---do you think?
Thank you for any help I have a hard time understanding this aspect at all.
Is it cold water thrown on the primal desires?
Would it reduce passion/ desire between people in synastry or in the individual in the natal? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 06, 2011 12:56 AM
Interesting Chart Jwhite
I will look tomorrow
Lonkae--Wonderful info as usual Darling What would Saturn/Pluto conjunct in the composite in the 1st house be---do you think?
Thank you for any help I have a hard time understanding this aspect at all.
Is it cold water thrown on the primal desires?
Would it reduce passion/ desire between people in synastry or in the individual in the natal? ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 06, 2011 01:01 AM
Jupiter conjunct Gemini Venus.She must be be very Gemini Venus which is flirty lol
Is she?
Neptune conj Saturn---is discipline and responsibility hard for her?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Rosalind
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posted July 06, 2011 02:02 AM
No, never. But I have been tempted. Who isnt? The key is the control. Mars in Capricorn say it all.IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted July 06, 2011 02:14 AM
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Aya_and_baby
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posted July 06, 2011 02:30 AM
Yes I did.Generally, my chart does speak for itself in that area: I have a Gemini Dsc which suggest multiple partners at the same time almost literally, conjunct Moon also in Gemini. I have Sagittarius Venus too. The placements in my chart that soften those placements (i.e. make me slightly less likely to serial cheat) are Mars, my 5th house ruler, in Capricorn and 2nd, and my Sagittarius Venus that was mentioned before, conjunct Neptune which makes me a hopeless romantic and thus less likely to desire another partner when the one I have ticks all the boxes. And though I know there are Scorpio suns out there who are serial cheaters, just because they can, I believe that Scorpio energy is very loyal. And I have Scorpio sun conjunct Saturn which I thinks softens up my likelihood to cheat on partners. I am in fact generally quite loyal. First of all, because I'm honest and probably would tell of my escapades if they happened but because I try to avoid hurting people's feelings, I also try to avoid escapading so that I wouldn't hurt someone's feelings that way. Also, I'm hypersensitive and being with someone takes up a lot of my energy. Just imagine then what being with two people at the same time would do to me. So, despite the initial aspects and positions in my chart, all my mutability, and the fact that I'll readily admit I have a roving eye but no roving hand, I'm actually quite loyal and my cheating has been restricted to once or twice in all the relationships that I had. One of those is questionable because I already considered the relationship over and the man knew too but wouldn't admit to it so you could argue it wasn't cheating, but at least one time was definitely cheating no matter how you look at it. But even then there were circumstances: the man I was cheating with was arguably my greatest love (and had been in a relationship with him before) and love-blindness and pure attraction simply overpowered me at that time, and after a while I decided it was better to go for practicality than for love. ------------------
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amowls**
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posted July 06, 2011 02:58 AM
Yes, once, on going relationship tbh. Do I feel bad? Nope. Boyfriend at the time was a huge d-bag. The guy I cheated on him with was also a huge d-bag but we have epic synastry.That was once. I would never cheat on my current boyfriend. Why? Because he's not a d-bag. Generally, mutable signs are said to be the culprits. I have a mutable Venus and Mars as well as Rising. Also Venus square Uranus, which I have. I think you'll be gravely mistaken if you try to look for it in a chart. You'll see some sort of aspect and then be suspicious and it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. IP: Logged |
cupcakes
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posted July 06, 2011 04:01 AM
Sun, Asc, and Mars in Capricorn. Venus in Sagittarius and Moon in Gemini here.I've never cheated. Never even considered it. It's completely immoral in my book. The Sag and Gemini influence only affects how I feel about stuffy relationships. IP: Logged |
jwhite997
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posted July 06, 2011 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by blugrey:
OH MY GOD this girl was born a half a day after me. LMAO! Same year. We have almost the same chart, minus house placements. I'm a Taurus RisingI have cheated one time if you can count it as that, when I was in a long distance relationship, got too drunk and basically woke up not knowing where I was, naked next to an acquaintance. Erh, I felt horrible and miserable about it and told my guy basically hours after I woke up and I pretty much cried for the rest of the day. Since then I've watched my liquor and I have never cheated again. Hate cheating. That said, I think that people of all aspects have cheated. A natal chart doesn't show what kind of choices people make.
What aspects of your chart do you think contributed to your unfortunate accident? IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted July 06, 2011 02:09 PM
I don't know if you would call it cheating or just not fully committed.
(and I NEVER lie, no subterfuge here, so if you don't want the truth, don't ask)surprisingly, my attitude has nothing to do with faithfulness of the heart
but more like personal independence girl can't help it
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blugrey
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posted July 06, 2011 02:21 PM
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