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Topic: Indicators of "Solitude"
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sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 08:00 AM
i don't think sun conj venus is an indicator of solitude but more of never being settled like leonardo. if you mean solitude as in being reclusive then look at famous reclusive personalities like jd salinger, howard hughes. here's an interesting list: http://www.amiannoying.com/(S(jz45bnfllxrtil45dggumw55))/Collection.aspx?collection=47 26 number 63 might be of interest to some here. never knew that about her.
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Doreen Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 17, 2011 08:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i don't think sun conj venus is an indicator of solitude but more of never being settled like leonardo.
This sounds more like Sun conjunct Venus My baby girl has sun conjunct Venus in Virgo and is NOT interested in getting married I remember her telling me that she has nightmares about getting married LOL She also has a Libra moon and is extremely picky if a guy isn't perfect she is not interested and even then she loses interest FAST IP: Logged |
pixie Knowflake Posts: 68 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 08:29 AM
I like being alone, even though it makes me feel depressed sometimes. Some of my friends referred to me as the "loner" lol. My placements: Moon square Neptune/Venus/Ascendant/Uranus
Saturn conjunct Ascendant Sun/Mecury/Venus/Uranus/Neptune/Juno/Lilith in the 12th House. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 08:32 AM
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abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 10:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i don't think sun conj venus is an indicator of solitude but more of never being settled like leonardo. if you mean solitude as in being reclusive then look at famous reclusive personalities like jd salinger, howard hughes. here's an interesting list: http://www.amiannoying.com/(S(jz45bnfllxrtil45dggumw55))/Collection.aspx?collection=47 26 number 63 might be of interest to some here. never knew that about her.
By Sun conj venus and solitude we meant, atleast i and i think that mert too, is like being alone. It basically signifies loads of attraction. So how can the person be steady on one. Or how can his partner settle with him/her mentally when he is oosing all that attraction for loads of opposite sex persons and they always are around this character either literally or otherwise? It doesn't lead to a healthy close relationship, i mean like lovers. Ofcourse it also depends on other placements. Their partners catch up on this gradually and so finally they end up being alone when it comes to immediate personal life. As in being by themselves. Then who do they have? Then they feel they are not loved when actually its the other way round. This may get diluted though with other aspects and signs. IP: Logged |
carl Knowflake Posts: 1126 From: My soul is all over the world! (aka vagabond) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 17, 2011 11:16 AM
Starting to feel like solitude could be the best for me too.Risk analysis: too much potential for hurt. If the potential exists at all, I don't want to exp. that again. and the potential exists, just look at all the relationships that fail, no point in playing that lottery when usually the outcome is deep pain. Don't want to put myself in the position where I might exp it again. So proper response is to avoid it all together. IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 11:33 AM
Thx all for answers and comments.Sun conjunct venus people wants people to love due to their charm but when A SOME TIME comes they think that they are loved because of their charm and NOT PERSONALITY.. So this is the paradox. They would want to be loved in both ways.
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abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Yes you put it well Mert. I have got this first hand from a Sun conj Venus person who is the centre of attraction always but admitted to me once that he is not loved (that is what he thinks ofcourse). Its like a beautiful or attractive lady who knows that ppl are falling for her beauty but not HER-SELF. So she wants and enjoys it but at the same time yearns for that man who will reach HER, pass her beauty-find his way to her heart through it.IP: Logged |
abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by carl: Starting to feel like solitude could be the best for me too.Risk analysis: too much potential for hurt. If the potential exists at all, I don't want to exp. that again. and the potential exists, just look at all the relationships that fail, no point in playing that lottery when usually the outcome is deep pain. Don't want to put myself in the position where I might exp it again. So proper response is to avoid it all together.
I would like to see what you have to say after a few years. Why? Love has very unpredictable ways.... BEWARE OF LOVE Aware or not it will fetch the same results anyway....that is to break down your defenses and flow... All the best! Keep trying....lol IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 09:30 PM
ahh i see wha u guys mean mert abcdefg! IP: Logged |
Flowergirl Newflake Posts: 3 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 18, 2011 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by CancerRising: I only know of a few aspects that would make someone want solitude, but mine that I know of are:Sun and Mercury in 12th House
Mercury in 12th house, for sure.
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MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 04:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Flowergirl: [QUOTE]Originally posted by CancerRising: [b]I only know of a few aspects that would make someone want solitude, but mine that I know of are:Sun and Mercury in 12th House
Mercury in 12th house, for sure. [/B][/QUOTE]Does Mercury in 12th people love or have an interest on "paradoxes, puzzles ?" IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 05:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: 12th house NN??
Definitely. Type "North Node in houses" to google and many interpretations show "solitude" as good part of it lol if it is the good part i wonder the bad parts IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 05:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by MertSerimer: I gave so much attention to my natal chart that i just started to feel my natal chart. Feeling means understanding why my soul or whatever the power above chose this configuration to have. I think solitude is chosen or given when bad karma occured or sth bad happened to your relationships in past life OR you are just tested by this way no like any other else.My indicators; -5th ruler is moon and getting SQAURE from Venus and MC and sign square from Mars and Mercury -Quincunx Jupiter -Conjunct Ascendant and it is in first house -NN in 12th house -Venus opposite Mars -Sun conjunct Venus .. read the threads - MANY MANY Sag traits i have. -Moon trine PLuto -Chiron in cancer and in 5th house. 7th ruler is mercury and its in detriment(sag) so wrong choices when it comes to partnership. what do you think? I already gave up on love. Weird part is i have venus trine jupiter. why do i have that?
Some people choose to come solo in an incarnation to test their own strength and will power. To really be One. Not dependent emotionally and spiritually on anyone but yourself and the Ultimate Energy or Source that Sustains us. Others choose to have fun and incarnate in groups or whatever. IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 05:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: Some people choose to come solo in an incarnation to test their own strength and will power. To really be One. Not dependent emotionally and spiritually on anyone but yourself and the Ultimate Energy or Source that Sustains us. Others choose to have fun and incarnate in groups or whatever.
Nice. Since from my childhood deeply i was thinking something like that. But then soul would choose an unaspected moon or venus. Also i would not choose venus trine jupiter, sun conjunct venus if i was to test myself. Maybe it is the gift of universe i dunno. But what you said will be right at the end-which end?- i guess. I have that power. Strong Pluto in 8th, Mutual receptive Stationary Jupiter in 6th, moon trine pluto, Strong Well aspected Saturn in 11th, Moon trine PLuto etc. An astrologer told me that your chart is very good for career and survivor. If i learn to be "capricorn" then everything will get better as life advances she said. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 05:39 AM
Yes, your life will get better as you grow in knowledge and understanding of all things. That is what makes you happy. There is a lot out there for us to discover you know.IP: Logged |
CancerRising Knowflake Posts: 107 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 06:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by MertSerimer: Does Mercury in 12th people love or have an interest on "paradoxes, puzzles ?"
I don't know about paradoxes, but I do play puzzles frequently and was always the kid to sit down and quietly do a puzzle. Also, I used to grab the newspaper and do all the puzzles and word games. But I just like games that can be played alone, like Solitare, Sudoku, Crosswords, etc. IP: Logged |
Chaos Knowflake Posts: 400 From: Serbia Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 19, 2011 05:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by MertSerimer: Definitely. Type "North Node in houses" to google and many interpretations show "solitude" as good part of it lol if it is the good part i wonder the bad parts
The only good part about that interpretation is that we actually LOVE solitude, it's not unpleasant to us, we enjoy it, it's not forced, it's a choice...objectively, not a good choice, but certainly a choice that makes us happy... Yeah, I'm a 12th house NN, kinda anti-social by nature, and I know I'll probably never marry... IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 05:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: The only good part about that interpretation is that we actually LOVE solitude, it's not unpleasant to us, we enjoy it, it's not forced, it's a choice...objectively, not a good choice, but certainly a choice that makes us happy... Yeah, I'm a 12th house NN, kinda anti-social by nature, and I know I'll probably never marry...
Bump.. I just missed this thread IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3421 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 11:58 AM
Numerolgy shows this very well.My life path is number 7, the most solitary of all. It's very very true. IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 774 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 05, 2011 06:12 PM
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BelligerentPygmy Knowflake Posts: 1145 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 06:20 PM
I don't apply judgments to indicators of being solitary, in a natal chart. It just is what it is. Stuff in the 8th, 12th, or bottom half of the chart can lead to that type of thing. My south node is in the 12th, and four of my planets are in the 8th. IP: Logged |
MertSerimer Knowflake Posts: 956 From: where the fun is Registered: Mar 2011
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posted December 05, 2011 07:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy: I don't apply judgments to indicators of being solitary, in a natal chart. It just is what it is. Stuff in the 8th, 12th, or bottom half of the chart can lead to that type of thing. My south node is in the 12th, and four of my planets are in the 8th.
Buzz-Killer has returned .
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2011 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chaos: The only good part about that interpretation is that we actually LOVE solitude, it's not unpleasant to us, we enjoy it, it's not forced, it's a choice...objectively, not a good choice, but certainly a choice that makes us happy... Yeah, I'm a 12th house NN, kinda anti-social by nature, and I know I'll probably never marry...
NN 12th here as well, so I guess I can add that to my list for this topic I do like to visit various churches as recreation of sorts, and watch/hear from other people re:how they came about their current spiritual discipline (all kinds) but then I also have Neptune Sagittarius in the 5th. I get high on h12 matters of spirituality, occult, psychic experiences, in general, due also to Pisces Sun in the 8th, Scorp Jupiter in the 4th.IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9910 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 06, 2011 10:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by CosmicKarma360: Does anyone know if planets in the 12th make someone more sensitive to energies in an environment? Not too long ago, I went to a very busy, packed event. Wow, felt all sorts of energies that burned me out something fierce. It was weird. The energy was very palpable. I needed to be alone the whole weekend after that.What would cause someone be an empath? Any planets in particular?
You described what I often go through in packed environments, picking up on everything. Sometimes I literally go blind because my circuits are overwhelmed. h12 only holds my NN, but I am Pisces Sun sq Uranus, which just might be the factor for mine, since the Sun rules my Asc. Sun and h1 are both good to look at for health matters (if you want to view the situation in terms of health). I am healthy tho, the doctors can't explain what I experience.I would say Neptune/Pisces/H12 It blurs the divide between you and another. IP: Logged |