posted July 14, 2011 04:01 AM            

My indicators;

-5th ruler is moon and getting
SQAURE from Venus and MC and sign square from Mars and Mercury
Quincunx Jupiter
Conjunct Ascendant and it is in first house
-NN in 12th house
-Venus opposite Mars
-Sun conjunct Venus .. read the threads
- MANY MANY Sag traits i have.
-Moon trine PLuto
-Chiron in cancer and in 5th house.

7th ruler is mercury and its in detriment(sag) so wrong choices when it comes to partnership.

posted July 14, 2011 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:

Everyone is born with the chart they need. Don't look for the negatives in it cos that's all you'll see.

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posted July 14, 2011 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
Darling
I think you gave up on love cuz of your afflicted moon.
If you want to bump that thread,we can do it.If not ,let it lie

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posted July 14, 2011 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
It is up to you my lady=)). If you wanna continue, do it if it is okay for you.

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Well if YOU want to dig deep would be the thing.IF you do bump your thread with the moon info on it--the one I did for you recently.
This is gonna entail facing hurting kinds of stuff so think if you WANT to ,Baby.
If you do ,bump the thread

posted July 14, 2011 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
I gave so much attention to my natal chart that i just started to feel my natal chart. Feeling means understanding why my soul or whatever the power above chose this configuration to have. I think solitude is chosen or given when bad karma occured or sth bad happened to your relationships in past life OR you are just tested by this way no like any other else.

My indicators;

-5th ruler is moon and getting
SQAURE from Venus and MC and sign square from Mars and Mercury
-Quincunx Jupiter
-Conjunct Ascendant and it is in first house
-NN in 12th house
-Venus opposite Mars
-Sun conjunct Venus .. read the threads
- MANY MANY Sag traits i have.
-Moon trine PLuto
-Chiron in cancer and in 5th house.

7th ruler is mercury and its in detriment(sag) so wrong choices when it comes to partnership.

what do you think? I already gave up on love. Weird part is i have venus trine jupiter. why do i have that?

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Darling
Honestly, your chart is not that bad. You don't have 12th house planets,do you?
My book says these are the worst.I think you are in a depression

posted July 14, 2011 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Darling
Honestly, your chart is not that bad. You don't have 12th house planets,do you?
My book says these are the worst.I think you are in a depression

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posted July 14, 2011 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Darling
Honestly, your chart is not that bad. You don't have 12th house planets,do you?
My book says these are the worst.I think you are in a depression

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posted July 14, 2011 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
Great.... according to the above comment I have the worst!
12th house stellium here. But in honesty, I don't take it too seriously. I used to dwell on it, but right now my Jupiter sextile Ascendant transit is helping me tremendously. It puts me in a great mood.
I still need my time of solitude though. I'm not one of those people who can go out everyday and meet different people. It takes too much energy from me. Once-twice a week is enough. The rest of the time is spent either alone, at work, or w/ family. I need my own time to be "myself."

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posted July 14, 2011 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Ami

What is it about 12th house planets? I am curious.

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Well,my book on house rulers said that whatever else is in the chart he breathes a sigh of relief if there is not 12th house planets.
I have Neptune there only and it is Neptunes house so it is not too bad.
However,the 12th house is THE most inward turned energy, the most mired you could say.
I would liken it to a Retro planet if you have any.
I have Mercury , Saturn and Neptune.
Picture a top spinning ,going round and round.
The REtro energy makes it hard to STOP the top and deal with the planet energy as it is.

I think the 12th house is harder than Retro.

Are you understanding what I am trying to say about the energies?

posted July 14, 2011 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Ami

What is it about 12th house planets? I am curious.

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posted July 14, 2011 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
12th house is also associated with [b]"sins, going to hell, bad karma, satisfaction in sex, being against social structure, hospitals, paradoxes, prisons, enemy protection" in vedic astrology.[/B]

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posted July 14, 2011 07:50 PM            

Of course if the ego is strong, or if a person is insistent on sense being the defining force of reality, then the concept of no-thing-ness would result in escape, inability to cope, self-deception, and madness. It's hard discovering and accepting that reality is relative, not solid. The 12th house is the space we arose out of before becoming cognizant and it is the space we return to when we cease to be cognizant. Even if you go to sleep/meditate/die among a sea of loved ones, you ultimately enter that space alone. This is what makes selfless sacrifice part of Pisce's M.O. The Pisces energy doesn't particularly feel like it has a self, it feels like a space within which events (feelings, thoughts, etc...) occur. Like outer space, or like an ocean must feel, being stirred around by gravity and observing as extreme events of life and death fluctuate within.

posted July 15, 2011 10:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I think it's important to mention that the 12th house affliction is based on the native's perspective. Just as 9th house is “susceptible” to pontification, segregation, and extremism, or the 6th house is “susceptible” to slavery, exploitation, or drone mentality; The 12th House has positive AND negative spectral expressions. Just as 9th House can be attributed to “religion/philosophy” or the 6th House can be related to “service/health”, the 12th house simply manifests as the inner-space/no-thing-ness. Aquarius and the 11th house get everyone working together for the purpose of achieving 12th house energy.

Of course if the ego is strong, or if a person is insistent on sense being the defining force of reality, then the concept of no-thing-ness would result in escape, inability to cope, self-deception, and madness. It's hard discovering and accepting that reality is relative, not solid. The 12th house is the space we arose out of before becoming cognizant and it is the space we return to when we cease to be cognizant. Even if you go to sleep/meditate/die among a sea of loved ones, you ultimately enter that space alone. This is what makes selfless sacrifice part of Pisce's M.O. The Pisces energy doesn't particularly feel like it has a self, it feels like a space within which events (feelings, thoughts, etc...) occur. Like outer space, or like an ocean must feel, being stirred around by gravity and observing as extreme events of life and death fluctuate within.

If you have 12th House planets I say, you have reached a point where you are ready to learn about the empty, insubstantial vastness, and fundamental connectivity of self. Congratulations, you have learned about outward development and outward being, now it's time to take a swim in Lake You. Remember, if we all have a 12th house than the feeling of being included vs being alone is an ego game. The story of the zodiac begins with the emerging of individuality, transitions to recognition of other, and results in dissolution into collective emptiness (only to reemerge again as a fresh individual). I'm happy to have a 12th House SN and Eris, they indicate to me that I am graduating from an old pattern, and in this lifetime I have the opportunity to let those old patterns dissolve in the soup, and focus on the new patterns coming in. Solitude is not bad, if all aspects point to solitude in your chart, then this lifetime you won a spa treatment to the inner resort. Explore, pamper, relax, and enjoy. If you have other aspects that are directing you out of solitude, then you have spent enough time at the spa, it's time to steal the towels and get back to your outer life =)

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posted July 16, 2011 12:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I think it's important to mention that the 12th house affliction is based on the native's perspective. Just as 9th house is “susceptible” to pontification, segregation, and extremism, or the 6th house is “susceptible” to slavery, exploitation, or drone mentality; The 12th House has positive AND negative spectral expressions. Just as 9th House can be attributed to “religion/philosophy” or the 6th House can be related to “service/health”, the 12th house simply manifests as the inner-space/no-thing-ness. Aquarius and the 11th house get everyone working together for the purpose of achieving 12th house energy.

Of course if the ego is strong, or if a person is insistent on sense being the defining force of reality, then the concept of no-thing-ness would result in escape, inability to cope, self-deception, and madness. It's hard discovering and accepting that reality is relative, not solid. The 12th house is the space we arose out of before becoming cognizant and it is the space we return to when we cease to be cognizant. Even if you go to sleep/meditate/die among a sea of loved ones, you ultimately enter that space alone. This is what makes selfless sacrifice part of Pisce's M.O. The Pisces energy doesn't particularly feel like it has a self, it feels like a space within which events (feelings, thoughts, etc...) occur. Like outer space, or like an ocean must feel, being stirred around by gravity and observing as extreme events of life and death fluctuate within.

If you have 12th House planets I say, you have reached a point where you are ready to learn about the empty, insubstantial vastness, and fundamental connectivity of self. Congratulations, you have learned about outward development and outward being, now it's time to take a swim in Lake You. Remember, if we all have a 12th house than the feeling of being included vs being alone is an ego game. The story of the zodiac begins with the emerging of individuality, transitions to recognition of other, and results in dissolution into collective emptiness (only to reemerge again as a fresh individual). I'm happy to have a 12th House SN and Eris, they indicate to me that I am graduating from an old pattern, and in this lifetime I have the opportunity to let those old patterns dissolve in the soup, and focus on the new patterns coming in. Solitude is not bad, if all aspects point to solitude in your chart, then this lifetime you won a spa treatment to the inner resort. Explore, pamper, relax, and enjoy. If you have other aspects that are directing you out of solitude, then you have spent enough time at the spa, it's time to steal the towels and get back to your outer life =)

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posted July 16, 2011 06:39 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
I gave so much attention to my natal chart that i just started to feel my natal chart. Feeling means understanding why my soul or whatever the power above chose this configuration to have. I think solitude is chosen or given when bad karma occured or sth bad happened to your relationships in past life OR you are just tested by this way no like any other else.

My indicators;

-5th ruler is moon and getting
SQAURE from Venus and MC and sign square from Mars and Mercury
-Quincunx Jupiter
-Conjunct Ascendant and it is in first house
-NN in 12th house
-Venus opposite Mars
-Sun conjunct Venus .. read the threads
- MANY MANY Sag traits i have.
-Moon trine PLuto
-Chiron in cancer and in 5th house.

7th ruler is mercury and its in detriment(sag) so wrong choices when it comes to partnership.

what do you think? I already gave up on love. Weird part is i have venus trine jupiter. why do i have that?

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posted July 16, 2011 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Doreen:
Sun conjunct Venus and Solitude
WHAT ? err I don't think this has anything to do with solitude or wanting to be alone or what ever

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