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cooljen
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posted July 16, 2011 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its about that time again! (getting close anyway)... I wanted to get feedback on my solar return chart for this year. I have the regular solar return chart and the solar return chart with my natal chart. Both look interesting, Particularly the angle conjunction (exact) between my solar return and natal chart. I get the feeling that I'm supposed to be going through some major changes. The last lunar eclipse from June 15th hit my North and South nodes exact! which also happens to be where my Vertex is and my Sun/Moon Midpoint. So with that and my solar return, it seems to be pointing to some significant stuff happening, just not sure what. What do you see???

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posted July 16, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please see this thread for how to view, and do, return charts. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209223.html

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posted July 16, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you but I've seen this thread and I don't necessarily agree with that interpretation on Solar Return charts.

I remember seeing a different thread a while back for someone's solar return chart where the same thing but it didn't seem to make sense. Solar Return charts have always worked for me. Maybe thats because I happen to be a Leo? I don't know. But I was looking for an overall interpretation, not simply "look at the sun or the Leo house" and thats it.

I do appreciate your comment...don't take this the wrong way. I just don't quite understand that view of solar return charts.

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posted July 16, 2011 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. Around the time of the solar return, there is the Mercury and Venus return. What do they give an interpretation of if the Solar return is used as a general prediction tool?

You are wasting others and your own time by looking at astrology the wrong way.

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cooljen
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posted July 16, 2011 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only person wasting time is you....No one forced you to comment. Please clear the way for other's (more respectable) comments.

Thank you!

p.s. you can express your views without being obnoxious about it and furthermore... Isn't all of astrology pretty much a prediction tool? I mean I'm not simplifying astrology to a fortune telling science but Your solar return is experienced from birthday to birthday. Every other transit and aspect gets interpreted against your own natal chart in the same way and they last for some period of time depending on various factors. I don't see how this is any different.

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posted July 16, 2011 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just imagine if it were true that you're wastings your own time and others time by looking at astrology the wrong way. What I said wouldn't be deemed obnoxious, just something said that is the truth.

Who would want to admit to that?

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posted July 16, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm no expert either, but when I had solar return Sun in the 12th, it was a very low key year for me as I'd moved to a new state in totally new territory. You also have moon and mercury in Virgo which would kind of re-emphasize that IMO, though they're in the first...making you easily expressive this year.


Natal Angles lining up with SR Angles is suppose to be very significant too.

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cooljen
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posted July 16, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Back to my original post...Anyone else have thoughts to share? It would be much appreciated.

edit - Thanks Benedict Moon for your response! Looks like we're both battling the 'solar return thread killa'! lol

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posted July 16, 2011 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I wish some people would realize we aren't wasting their precious time if they CHOSE to respond to the thread. Bumping this anyways so you'll get some better feedback.

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posted July 16, 2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weird, your SR/ B-day is the day after mine. I also have a SR this year with Leo ASC. and Venus in Leo conjunct Sun. Should be a good year!

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posted July 17, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had more to add... cooljen, I look at SR just like you, how they should be read and you aren't wasting anybody's time. It seems like some people get bored on here and try to push their weight around to make themselves feel better about them-self! I have an interesting SR chart coming up in Dec and wish I knew more! Anyway, I'm bumping this thread so hopefully someone will answer that knows something! Good luck!

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posted July 17, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still trying to figure out mine - and which house system to use, too. Otherwise I'd try to help.

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posted July 17, 2011 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks racole & teasel! I appreciate your support regardless!

@ Planet Queen - yeah I remember your thread! Funny, there seems to be a lot of people on here born around this time. Your chart is almost exactly like mine but your Jupiter falls in the 10th (mine the 9th) and your Uranus opposite Saturn is in the 9th and 3rd, mine in the 8th and 2nd (though Saturn is real close to the 3rd house cusp).

Anyway the aspects are a little different which is weird. One of the things I think is interesting in this chart is the shapes...there's a grand triangle, 'mystic rectangle', and a trapezoid. I don't know why your chart doesn't show all of those. Maybe because of the different time zone?

Your Uranus - Saturn opposition looks better than mine! because of the houses. I hope the 2nd - 8th house opposition doesn't mess up my finances. I got my own place in the fall of last year so my finances aren't so stable right now.

Also of concern is the Moon - Mercury conjunction in the 1st opposite Neptune in the 7th. Not so interesting by itself maybe but because there's also a Sun - Venus conjunction in the 12th, I don't know. I've had a solar return with Venus in the 12th before and did end up experiencing a 'secret relationship' - not so much a love relationship but still. I don't know how the Sun conjunct Venus there affects things. I'm thinking if there is some kind of 'secret relationship' this time around, the Sun conjunct Venus would make it stronger for me...maybe there would be more feeling with it, but then Neptune in the 7th clouds the issue.

Oh I also notice that I have solar return Vertex conjunct solar return North Node. I have that aspect in my natal chart and those two are opposite my natal North Node and Vertex. Don't know what thats supposed to mean?!?

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posted July 18, 2011 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can't make head nor tale of mine either
so bump for the all the leos

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posted July 19, 2011 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 22, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump...

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posted July 22, 2011 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun and Venus in 12th house
-both are related to digging through karma, debt etc
-could be a very karmic year for you in terms of your life path and love life
-I have venus in 12th on the year I'm supposed to be getting married

Sun in 12th house
from: http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/solarreturnsun12.htm

quote:

This year is about soul cleansing. Letting go of your negative, thoughts, habits, dependencies, ego attachments and worldly concerns. It is about facing karma, paying old debts, and learning to surrender your will to a higher power. It is also about healing and release

First house
-mercury and moon in first

from http://www.cafeastrology.com/samplesolarreturnreport2.html

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Mercury in 1st house of Solar Return:

During this year your intellectual and literary production will be very important. You will excel in accomplishing mental tasks, due to your keenness of mind and your ability to understand things. It will be a good year for any kind of study and for activities that demand mental concentration. If you are involved in writing, you will have a very fruitful year. If you aren't a professional writer, this astrological position will help you to put your correspondence in order and improve your communication with others. Your mind will be very alert and you will make necessary changes very quickly. It's important to determine the subjects that you are really interested in exploring and not waste your time on superficial things. It will also be important for you to learn to relax your mind in order to avoid stress.

This influence also favors business activities. Any business you are involved in will prosper and you will have new ideas and projects for the future. You will want to be your own person this year, and will be inclined to be more egocentric than at other times. You probably will take some short trips and will be constantly on the go.


from http://www.owlhousec rystalsolutions.com/LunalertBlog/tabid/236/EntryId/18/The-Moons-Placement-in-the-Solar-Return-Chart-and-What-We-Can-Learn-From-It.aspx

quote:

When the Moon is in the 1st house, it is often when we are starting a new cycle. You are ready for something new and need to trust your intuition to lead you in the right direction. Feelings and emotions are likely to be a very strong and motivating force for you. Events this year can trigger old feelings and wounds and bring them to the surface. Your emotions are trying to tell you something very important that you can learn from. This is the time to foster and strengthen your self nurturing side.

2nd house
-juno and saturn
-financial partnerships could be very important to you, but there could be a restriction

Fifth house
-vertex is on the cusp of fifth, so there could be something fated about your love life this year
-pluto on the fifth means your love life could be transformed in a huge way
-its often found in a year a woman conceives
-it forms a harsh aspect with uranus (unexpected) and a soft aspect with jupiter (expansion), this could point to a pregnancy

Pallas in sixth house
-you could work in a very clever way

Seventh house
-there could be healing in terms of partnerships
-with neptune here, you could be deceived or not see the partnership clearly

Eight house
-I'd watch out because there could be something unexpected as far as joint resources go

Ninth house
-expansion and blessings in the area of higher education and travel
-it forms a soft aspect with pluto so there could be a relationship with someone from university or another culture or background

Eleventh house
-there could trouble with your circle of friends

I hope I didn't go too far with my reading. I don't mean to offend. Please let me know if any of this resonates with you.

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posted July 22, 2011 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow...how insightful!!! No offense taken at all, those interpretations were great!

I have been kind of worrying lately about this solar return, mostly because of the Sun and Venus in the 12th house. I have been thinking that this coming year is going to be really somber.

As far as the love issues - this guy that I had been interested in has really let me down. Long story. I just don't know what his true intentions are. He seems to be playing the field. Anyway, I don't hate him, but he has disappointed me. The situation that I find myself in is exactly like a similar situation from about 4 years ago, almost exactly. One of the things that bothers me is that I have been trying to figure out 'ok what am I supposed to do now?' I feel like I am experiencing this again for a reason, like I'm supposed to do something different. But maybe as you mentioned, the Sun, Venus, and Moon positions in my SR point to that - karmic experiences. At least that makes me feel better about the upcoming year than me thinking those will mean it is a somber and secluded year.

Also the pregnancy thing is interesting. I had a reading from a family friend (a psychic) and she talked about a really strong chance of an unexpected pregnancy and that I really need to be careful.

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