posted July 19, 2011 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna test out some of my theories if that is OK
Look up these asteroids--Child, Nessus,Dejanaria, Lucifer,Pandora,Wisdom, Chaos, Juno,Pallas

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posted July 19, 2011 10:03 AM            

I don't know why the program won't do it anymore, but usually it includes a juno trine vertex and juno trine pallas (and I also have a Juno conjunct ic). Anyways, I've noticed how similar the juno aspects are to the venus aspects even if they are in different houses and signs. Right or wrong, I've taken that to mean the type of person I marry is basically the same type of person I'd fall deeply in love with. What do you think?

posted July 19, 2011 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000121.html

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Alright just playing around with this site (which btw is amazing!) do you want me to post a chart or just for me to find out which asteroids hit major parts of the chart or both? And how do I find out what the orb is?
Is it the difference between the Declination of First Body and the Declination of Aspecting Body?

posted July 19, 2011 01:31 PM            

I would surmise that your Chiron is being held in a sacred space.Also, this is all in the 8th house, the house of transformation by digging up repressed parts of the self.

Can you relate to any of this? I know you are young but these things should be felt at the beginning stages only,maybe
What do you think?

posted July 19, 2011 01:34 PM            

Now, in synastry you may feel an asteroid in synastry that was NOT big in your chart.

That happened with me with Nessus.His Nessus conjunct my Sun ,exact.
Then,I felt Nessus for the 1st time if you don't count my mother

posted July 19, 2011 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi Ami, hi Cecile

According to the synastry grid, the chiron is aspected - square moon, inconjunct sun, sextile jupiter, opposite saturn and uranus.

I keep seeing this too. The program doesn't seem to place aspect lines in the chart

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Hi sassaqua! Welcome to the party

posted July 19, 2011 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Cecile,

your moon seems to be rather troubled - it's qhite heavily challenged by Uranus, Neptune and venus/mercury (in the 8th too, so, undercurrents and messy power stuff??)

It does get some support from the sun and mars, but this seem to me like it might be misleading because these planets are challenged by Jupiter

You might feel moments of optimism and clear feelings of strength of your self-worth, but then, maybe you overshoot? Maybe having a too-grand idea of a way forward, (to escape your emotional discomfort of the moon), and your energy ends up feeling dissipated and you're left not knowing how things went wrong.

Your moon there, in the fourth... did you have a chaotic and foogy(neptune), yet, disruptive(uranus), disorderly(uranus/neptune) homelife as a child? If so, is it possible to really work hard to get grounded and create a steady, stable and practical organised home for yourself now?

You may not know instinctively how to do this, but modeling your home on something/someone else might be a starting point to guide you, to practise this and learn how to live a more orderly life, and have a grounding home for yourself. It would be a way to incorporate the earth void Ami mentioned.

It perhaps points also to extreme emotionalness? Are you highly emotional? Outbursts - or intense overwhelming feelings?

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My moon is definitely very troubled. I've gone through a lot of ups and down in my life. At various times my emotions have been challenged by a lack of stability and I've had my dreams and hops dashed.

There were always issues in my childhood. I had a very stable family life early on. But I often felt that my background or origins challenged the stability of my emotions. Baseline I had a hard time fitting in, and I think my background contributed to it. When things got worse in my family life in later childhood (my homelife was very disruptive and chaotic for a period), I felt like the situation separated me more and more from the rest of the world. I'm the one who who was most unwillingly exposed to hardship and when I took it poorly I didn't get the support I needed from my family. It really did a number on my emotional well being. I've never been diagnosed with anything, and I don't think I struggle with illness, but it wasn't easy. I can go through periods of overwhelming sadness. I'm an emotional person but I often tend to keep things to myself but yes, these situation can get the better of me. The nice thing is, as things get better, the pain does fade out. But it can come back if things swing the other way the old pain can come to haunt me on a daily basis.

I don't know if I'm able to create a stable and grounded home for myself. I feel like if I were able to find my place in the world and prevent any future children from going through what I went through that would do a lot to ground me and give me peace. So I guess it is something I know on an instinctive level.

posted July 19, 2011 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Merc/Venus in the 8th oppose Neptune.
How does this play out?
Do you feel it is hard to see your own emotions clearly?
Is it hard when you fall in love to see yourself OR the other person clearly?

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With the mercury opposite neptune, I think it plays out as me confusing my intuitions (eighth house) with fact and then me forming a premature or a wrong opinion on something. It's pretty touchy because I have so much cancer in my chart, so my intuitions tend to be pretty strong and oftentimes right. Then I take things too far, but its hard to know when to stop.

Venus opposition neptune usually means you can't see the flaws in your loved ones. I think I'm somewhat protected from getting carried away because I have such high standards for romantic love. My venus is pretty favourably aspected. And venus in eighth house usually means that the parter brings financial and social advantages. The other planets in the eighth house usually point to partner bringing financial advantages as well. I'm not the type to marry for money, but I know it isn't real love and it can't make me happy unless the partner brings a certain something (some financial stability, social advantages and maybe a skillset) to the table. A chart like mines points to me being transformed by love (pluto trine venus) so it really doesn't surprise me that I need my partner to bring some baseline elements to the relationship for me to blossom.

So yeah, but after someone meets your ridiculously high standards, there's a definite blindspot and difficulty seeing them for their flaws. Instead, I would just be so grateful for them giving me happiness and want to take care of them in anyway I can rather than mulling the small points. And I can also wait them out when others would give up on the possibility of a relationship happening. But there's definitely protection, because I won't fall for just anyone.

posted July 19, 2011 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OMG Cecile
Your mercury conjuncts my Moon.My moon is 9 cancer in the 8th house.
You are SO easy for me to understand.Isn't that wild????

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posted July 19, 2011 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i think you can check add aspects lines to chiron in the boxes below or add aspect lines to all.

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posted July 19, 2011 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Cecile:
That's amazing I don't think either of us should be surprised though ^^.

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I NEVER had that with someone. I read you and I breathe a sigh of relief cuz you are SO easy to understand lol

posted July 19, 2011 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have moon trine Sun. Did you have a happy childhood? Were your parents close when you were born?

You know what I am gonna do cuz it is so easy for me to communicate with you.
I am gonna test out some of my theories if that is OK
Look up these asteroids--Child, Nessus,Dejanaria, Lucifer,Pandora,Wisdom, Chaos, Juno,Pallas
We can start there lol

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I wouldn't say I had a happy childhood. I went through ups and downs and difficulties, but I had the strength to get through it, so maybe that's how the aspect played out. I was born into a very stable environment and at the time my parents were probably at their closest.

posted July 19, 2011 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Cecile
How does Pluto in the 12th feel to you?
Does your Pluto feel like it is turned inward as 12th house planets are said to be?

Does it feel as if it is stuck in quicksand?
Do you feel your primal instincts are pushed down, squished or shut in?

I know you have that good trine but my book seemed to say 12th house planets trump other things

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Which trine are you taking about? I know having a 12th house planet isn't a good thing.

posted July 19, 2011 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Pluto sq Mars.Do you have a temper? lol

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posted July 19, 2011 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Pluto sq Mars.Do you have a temper? lol

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posted July 19, 2011 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You got Chiron conj Vesta in the 8th house.It is 3 degrees which is OK in a conj.
This would be my thought on this.Tell me what you think.
Vesta exemplifies the surrogate mother who offers her womb in selfless devotion so another woman can have a child.
Vesta holds places and spaces.

I would surmise that your Chiron is being held in a sacred space.Also, this is all in the 8th house, the house of transformation by digging up repressed parts of the self.

Can you relate to any of this? I know you are young but these things should be felt at the beginning stages only,maybe
What do you think?

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From: http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/Chiron_Aspects.html

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Chiron conjunct Vesta
Your healing issues and path of initiation will most likely revolve around your spirituality, sexuality and devotion. You may be inclined to forego a committed relationship, preferring to dedicate your life energies to a spiritual path of healing. You are passionately committed to your role as ‘keeper of the flame’, whether it be the flame of the altar or the hearth. Self-healing is a journey of awakening for you.

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posted July 19, 2011 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I meant Pluto trines Merc and Venus.

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