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Cecile
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posted July 17, 2011 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there

If you have time Ami, could you look at my natal chart and tell me what you see? Your intuitions etc?

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posted July 17, 2011 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Darling
My Pleasure

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 17, 2011 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok you have an Air void and are low in Earth.
How do you feel with regard to Air things which would be ease of communication and intellectual processing of info?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 17, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your low quality in the Earth element make it hard for you to deal with everyday practical things such as organizing drawers and closets.
I am an earth void.I have to force myself to pay attention to things on the earth.

For example, I won't get something painted until the paint is falling off the wall

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 17, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Pisces.You are very senstitive.
Do you have an unaspected Chiron. If so, you will need to make sense of pain,somehow.
So far,you seem not to have had great pain if I am not mistaken.
Your Chiron being unaspected will give you a unique relationship with pain.

You will have to find your way to own this planet without any help from other planets.

As such, you will be a maverick and an explorer.
If you do this, you will have something special to share with the world.

That is the legacy of unaspected planets

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Cecile
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posted July 17, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much!

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok you have an Air void and are low in Earth.
How do you feel with regard to Air things which would be ease of communication and intellectual processing of info?


Sometimes I have a hard time communicating things with the outside world and processing information There's a bit of a disconnect for sure. My mind works hard and fast, but the starting point is usually internal, something in my head.

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Does your low quality in the Earth element make it hard for you to deal with everyday practical things such as organizing drawers and closets.
I am an earth void.I have to force myself to pay attention to things on the earth.

For example, I won't get something painted until the paint is falling off the wall



Awww man ... For sure. I'm low in common sense. It's just hard something I was born with and its hard to develop.

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posted July 17, 2011 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Moon in Pisces.You are very senstitive.
Do you have an unaspected Chiron. If so, you will need to make sense of pain,somehow.
So far,you seem not to have had great pain if I am not mistaken.
Your Chiron being unaspected will give you a unique relationship with pain.

You will have to find your way to own this planet without any help from other planets.

As such, you will be a maverick and an explorer.
If you do this, you will have something special to share with the world.

That is the legacy of unaspected planets


I'm very very sensitive. 'tis the legacy of moon in pisces. I soak up all of the emotions around me.

Is my chiron really unaspected? I see a square with the moon. Do you mean its unaspected with the sun? I have experienced great pain. I had a very lonely childhood and only now have I been coming out of it.

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Cecile
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posted July 18, 2011 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted July 18, 2011 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it have a square with the moon? I missed it.
I will see if I can find some more things in your chart .
KEEP bumping ,please.I have my fingers in so many pies,so to speak

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 18, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does Venus conjunct Mercury feel like?
Do you feel your mind and love life/nature get pulled in to a whirlpool and you can not separate them .
You are a strong 8th house person in the sign of Cancer.How does that feel?
I have am 8th house stellium in Gem.
I can picture what it would feel like to have an 8th house stellium in Cancer.

Can you describe it?

How does the Scorpio house(8th house) blend with the Cancer energy?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 18, 2011 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Pluto in Scorpio trine Merc and Venus.You are powerful in your primal desires but they are under your control. You mind is very perceptive.

Please tell me how this whole aspect feels.It sounds wonderful lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Cecile
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posted July 18, 2011 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Does it have a square with the moon? I missed it.
I will see if I can find some more things in your chart .
KEEP bumping ,please.I have my fingers in so many pies,so to speak


No worries

My chiron is rather troubled, square with a moon and a oppositions with saturn and neptune

Ami, if I post my juno and vertex aspects, do you think you could look at them? I'm so interested in those and its really hard to find information about em.

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posted July 18, 2011 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's talk about the mercury conjunct venus and the pluto trine mercury together

Both aspects work together to help me talk my way into things. When I'm completely relaxed, I have a tendency to say things in a sweet and non-threatening way. That can help me get my way when the direct approach has failed. I did some reading about the aspects and apparently it can point to a child or an adult having a large vocab ^^. And yeah that's something people have said about me. I often find myself dissecting relationships from all different angles ... and if I'm emotionally involved I can't really stop. I'll do that with other things too, but especially relationships. If that doesn't point to a conjunction between venus and merc, I don't know what does.

The pluto trine mercury can give a lot of force and power to my speech and make me pretty persuasive. I used to love public speaking and my favourite topics were more serious. I'd have to say the aspect gave me a special touch and flair to deliver. It also helps me analyse and size up problems and get to the heart of the matter and probably write in a persuasive way (ie the power to make change).

People often say I'm really intellectual. If you look at my chart, that isn't really the most obvious thing to say since I'm all fire and water. But its definitely there. I'm one person who can spend a lifetime in ideas and thoughts. If anything, I'd say my venus mercury conjunct and my pluto trine venus give me an airy quality.

I really enjoyed analysing these aspects. Thanks for asking me to look at it Ami!

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Cecile
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posted July 19, 2011 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the pluto trine venus and the eighth house stuff, I'm just coming into it... I've always been really intense mentally and that probably has something to do with the eighth house emphasis in my chart.

But for a while I didn't really "feel" the gifts of the pluto trine venus. I mean I was "girl pretty" rather than being sexy or being able to seamless straddle the line between both. See this thread if you want to read about the aspect http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206991.html. Venus .

But yeah for a while I was wondering why the gifts of pluto trine venus weren't really mine use. Then, for the first time in my life I fell in love. It was just for a week and I'm still waiting to see if I'll go anywhere but there was definitely an emotional rush and high which I think began to activate the pluto trine venus.

And believe it or not, that can actually happen with pluto trine venus.

From: http://thejway.blogspot.com/2008/05/venus-trine-plutopowerful-love-with.html

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It may be that some of the higher appreciation and qualities that potentially are yours to experience may remain latent until they are triggered into conscious activity through the transformative action of love upon you; meeting your 'fated partner' could be the stimulus for this process. This does not necessarily imply that the relationship will succeed and survive, but could indicate a crisis and turning-point in your life centred within your emotions, which - whatever the result - will lead to enhanced understanding and inner change.



So right now I think I'm developing the aspects (and growing in my eighth house tendencies) kind of like working out and developing your muscles. And yeah its because of this experience, in a very sudden way I began to feel some of that sex drive Scorpios, eighth house people and people with pluto venus aspects aspects are famous for. Believe it or not, until this point, I pretty much felt asexual. Developing my pluto trine venus is definitely something I'm looking forward to in love Can't wait to be transformed by love!

I did some other reading on the aspect and apparently it means you can be skilled at receiving and using other people's resources. Which is definitely true for me. Apparently the world's oldest woman had it. She never worked a day in her life, was childless and never worked a day in her life and yet he provided for her and she was able to use it successfully. Also, Queen Elizabeth has it too. But my aspect is pretty weak so it isn't something I'm expecting. But to an extent I know how to use other people's resources instinctively and usually in a harmonious way.

So yeah I don't really know what a stellium in eighth in cancer would feel like. But I have a few guesses. I've got a compatibility report of Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis and apparently she has moon in eighth in cancer. I would think at least some of this stuff applies to me (especially since I have sun, moon and mercury in eighth in cancer).


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Your emotions shape your attitude to sex, associating affection and caring for
someone with sexuality. You have a gift for expressing feelings and your caring tendencies sexually, making you an extremely tender and sensitive lover. However you're not always very forthcoming about your own needs since for you, exposing yourself can be a bit of a sensitive spot.

Often at your most vulnerable when up close and personal, you can be moody and even prickly at times, retreating into your shell if your desires are not met. But others may find you a bit of an enigma, enthusiastic one minute and apparently unconcerned the next. Your gregarious happy-golucky approach to life conceals your difficulty in expressing your intimate and sexual needs or in
having them met, and inner insecurity may be behind your constant striving for pastures new.

You want to be treated with tenderness in sexual situations, and must feel at home in your surroundings to be totally relaxed. You do not bestow affection easily, but when you do, you usually develop strong emotional ties with your partners.


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You rejuvenate yourself, physically and emotionally through sex. Your approach to the world has a lot to do with your need to confront, unmask and undress everything and everyone. Whether you are aware of it or not, you emanate a heightened sense of sexuality, which may make more sensitive souls uncomfortable under your penetrating gaze, (as if they are being sized-up for your
next meal). But there will also be those on which you'll have the opposite effect, turning them on by your mysteriousness and intensity.

Others may not quite believe you when you say it's not the sex act itself that you are preoccupied with, but rather it has more to do with issues of trust, intimacy and the very essence of life.


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During periods of crisis and emotional upheaval you may seek solace through sex like some seek escape through drink and drugs. In time, as your experience of sex and intimacy leads you along the path to emotional maturity, your great sensitivity to the deeper needs of others will enable
you to nurture and help others through periods of crisis and personal transformation.

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posted July 19, 2011 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Do you have an unaspected Chiron. If so, you will need to make sense of pain,somehow.
So far,you seem not to have had great pain if I am not mistaken.
Your Chiron being unaspected will give you a unique relationship with pain.

Hi Ami, hi Cecile

According to the synastry grid, the chiron is aspected - square moon, inconjunct sun, sextile jupiter, opposite saturn and uranus.

I keep seeing this too. The program doesn't seem to place aspect lines in the chart

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posted July 19, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cecile,

your moon seems to be rather troubled - it's qhite heavily challenged by Uranus, Neptune and venus/mercury (in the 8th too, so, undercurrents and messy power stuff??)

It does get some support from the sun and mars, but this seem to me like it might be misleading because these planets are challenged by Jupiter

You might feel moments of optimism and clear feelings of strength of your self-worth, but then, maybe you overshoot? Maybe having a too-grand idea of a way forward, (to escape your emotional discomfort of the moon), and your energy ends up feeling dissipated and you're left not knowing how things went wrong.

Your moon there, in the fourth... did you have a chaotic and foogy(neptune), yet, disruptive(uranus), disorderly(uranus/neptune) homelife as a child? If so, is it possible to really work hard to get grounded and create a steady, stable and practical organised home for yourself now?

You may not know instinctively how to do this, but modeling your home on something/someone else might be a starting point to guide you, to practise this and learn how to live a more orderly life, and have a grounding home for yourself. It would be a way to incorporate the earth void Ami mentioned.

It perhaps points also to extreme emotionalness? Are you highly emotional? Outbursts - or intense overwhelming feelings?

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posted July 19, 2011 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi Ami, hi Cecile

According to the synastry grid, the chiron is aspected - square moon, inconjunct sun, sextile jupiter, opposite saturn and uranus.

I keep seeing this too. The program doesn't seem to place aspect lines in the chart


i think you can check add aspects lines to chiron in the boxes below or add aspect lines to all.

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posted July 19, 2011 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Sand, thanks.

Seems many people don't do this and I've been reading their chirons as unaspected!

It was getting eery, I was boggling why so many people had unaspected chirons. Was starting to think I was onto something about why humanity is so messed up

I now know otherwise

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posted July 19, 2011 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Merc/Venus in the 8th oppose Neptune.
How does this play out?
Do you feel it is hard to see your own emotions clearly?
Is it hard when you fall in love to see yourself OR the other person clearly?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Cecile
I love doing the charts with you.Your answers are so easy for me to understand. We have several good aspects,together.
I will continue to do it if you continue to answer

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Cecile
Your mercury conjuncts my Moon.My moon is 9 cancer in the 8th house.
You are SO easy for me to understand.Isn't that wild????

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have moon trine Sun. Did you have a happy childhood? Were your parents close when you were born?

You know what I am gonna do cuz it is so easy for me to communicate with you.
I am gonna test out some of my theories if that is OK
Look up these asteroids--Child, Nessus,Dejanaria, Lucifer,Pandora,Wisdom, Chaos, Juno,Pallas
We can start there lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Cecile
How does Pluto in the 12th feel to you?
Does your Pluto feel like it is turned inward as 12th house planets are said to be?

Does it feel as if it is stuck in quicksand?
Do you feel your primal instincts are pushed down, squished or shut in?

I know you have that good trine but my book seemed to say 12th house planets trump other things

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Pluto sq Mars.Do you have a temper? lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 19, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Chiron is conjunct my Sun at 28 Gem lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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