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Topic: What it's like to argue with each of the signs
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 1869 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 04:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by NickiG: yup, and it conjuncts my pluto in scorpio 
Whoa so both you guys have Scorpio Sun, Mars, & Pluto conjunction? I have it in the 8H O.O hi btw  IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2011 04:28 AM
"Aries - They'll probably be the ones starting the argument. You CANNOT talk things through with them. I don't want to generalize and say they're superficial, but in my experience they only put enough attention into things to gain a superficial understanding so trying to argue with them is impossible. They stay in one spot and DO NOT move. Very stubborn. They also like to delve into your past and use that against you when they're losing the argument, even if it has nothing to do with what you are fighting about. When they feel they've completely lost the argument and have nothing else to say, they'll walk out on you and slam the door."I agree with this, my aries ex literally walks out of the argument whether its face to face, online or just doesn't respond. As a Saggie i do exagerate sometimes to win a point. Sparkling IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 05:13 AM
Let me guess, Nicole didn't include her sign in the generalizations? There are people from each of those signs that are very good at winning all arguments and they don't react in the ways that you mentioned. Not everything and not everyone is so predictable which is the only thing frustrates me about Astrology or rather a lot of the people who misinterpret Astrology. This type of generalizing leads to judging people not based off of the facts or having pre misconceptions about the individual human being. I think that there are beings on this planet who transcend their sign or their "placements". In fact, most of the people incarnating now are going beyond their sign, ASC or placements. This type of thinking is almost religious in a sense. It is the type of generalizing often found in most christians, muslims and other religious extremists. Also Scorpios don't always win. I don't know if most people on this forum are scorpio but there seems to be a high opinion here that scorpios are superior in some way, which isn't true. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 05:17 AM
I am a Leo. A double Leo. Sometimes I am straight forward if it calls for it but other times I can respond in a different manner. I would also rather NOT make a scene and fight in public. I would much rather catch someone in private if pushed to do so. When someone is right and I am wrong, I admit that I am wrong. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2011 05:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: I don't know if most people on this forum are scorpio but there seems to be a high opinion here that scorpios are superior in some way, which isn't true.
The Scorpio has a healthy ego, stronger ego than the other water signs definitely, so maybe you're seeing this.
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 05:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: [b]I don't know if most people on this forum are scorpio but there seems to be a high opinion here that scorpios are superior in some way, which isn't true.
The Scorpio has a healthy ego, stronger ego than the other water signs definitely, so maybe you're seeing this.[/B][/QUOTE]What do you mean by healthy and stronger ego? Could you clarify? I am sorry, I just don't understand that. I think the more advanced or evolved being does away with the ego as much as possible, if not completely. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2011 05:49 AM
"I think the more advanced or evolved being does away with the ego as much as possible" --You're bringing in 'advanced' and 'evolved' with regard to Scorpio, as I read your response, so please rephrase your question because I didn't say those terms so I'm not sure why you're viewing my response in that vein.IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 06:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: "I think the more advanced or evolved being does away with the ego as much as possible" --You're bringing in 'advanced' and 'evolved' with regard to Scorpio, as I read your response, so please rephrase your question because I didn't say those terms so I'm not sure why you're viewing my response in that vein.
What do you mean by "healthy and stronger ego"? Elaborate. IP: Logged |
Malena Knowflake Posts: 232 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 07:52 AM
I hate arguing with Taurus, especially people with Taurus Mercury. I have had arguments where I will state a proven, given fact and they'll just say "You're making that up." Rather than admit that maybe I have one teeny tiny little point. I don't even care if I win the fight, just don't treat me like I'm making things up out of nowhere. Both my Sun and Mercury are in the opposite sign, Scorpio, so that's probably why this style particularly gets to me. I probably drive some Taurus people a little nuts too!Virgo (and I have Virgo Rising, so I am guilty of this too) is really good at derailing your argument with little mini-arguments. Like they won't argue with your main point, they'll have some weird little issue with a phrase you used. They'll correct you on your pronunciation, or something. But I think the flip side of this is that Virgos can be more willing to reconcile if you can both come to an agreement on a small point (or sometimes if you give into them on a small thing, they'll be more amenable to compromising on the big thing). I had a huge fight with my former friend, a Libra. She absolutely never admitted she was wrong about anything, ever. Now, as I said before I am a Scorpio. I know our reputation is that we don't admit error. But I personally try to own up if I've done something crappy. If I hurt someone's feelings without meaning to, I will apologize without making excuses. My Libra friend? Never. "You're too sensitive" (because admitting she had hurt someone else's feelings unintentionally would "unbalance the scales" and she would owe that person something). Or "Well yes, I did a mean thing to you, but only because you did some insensitive thing last week..." OK, but if I acted like a rude jerk to you because of some insensitive thing you did last week, you would be really hurt. And rightly so. I'm sure in her mind, she thought she was balancing the scales! But in reality it made her very difficult to stay friends with because I never knew if she was going to "pay me back" for some stupid thing. (Which one of us was the Scorpio, again? lol.) Please keep in mind, I don't think all Libras are like my friend. She had some issues in her life and I think it made some of her Libra-traits come out in ugly ways. Although, maybe I'm wrong to focus on the Sun sign. For me, I tie arguing to my Moon, which is in Leo. I'd rather have a loud, yelling but emotionally honest fight and get it over with, than stew around for days. IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 5583 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted July 22, 2011 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Whoa so both you guys have Scorpio Sun, Mars, & Pluto conjunction? I have it in the 8H O.Ohi btw 
hi!! my pluto and mars dont conjunct my sun, although they are in the same sign...pluto and mars are at 15 and 10 scorpio respectively, while my sun is at 27 scorpio ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
NickiG Moderator Posts: 5583 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted July 22, 2011 09:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: What do you mean by "healthy and stronger ego"? Elaborate.
i think what lonake means is that scorpio is the sign that delves in to the subconscious and is the sign that understands other people on a deeper level than a cancer would dare to go and a pisces prefers not to go...since scorpio knows the human nature intimately then we can have an understanding of what to say and what to do, therefore have a better chance of winning an arguement.....i dont personally believe that (although, astrologicalman, my ego does make me want to say that) ------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1289 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2011 10:41 AM
Top of the morning to all!I think it goes way beyond sun signs, for instance, what is described with arguing with a Pisces is NOT me. It is me when I am hurt, but not me in an arguement. I have a Scorp asc and my mermaid tail quickly turns into a very venemous stinging Scorpion tail when I am pushed into an argument. I do not like to argue, too sensitive for that, absorbe all of the negative energy of an argument. So, this Pisces anyway is not weak and teary at all, but when my asc comes out, look out!  IP: Logged |
Nicole401 Knowflake Posts: 268 From: CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 22, 2011 11:59 AM
quote: Let me guess, Nicole didn't include her sign in the generalizations?
I actually did, the very first is mine & don't take it too seriously!! It was intended to be a joke!  IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6852 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2011 07:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: What do you mean by "healthy and stronger ego"? Elaborate.
I mean that they have a stronger ego than the other water signs. They're fixed which enhances the ego. All fixed signs have strong egos; they know what they are and they know what they're not and this drives their decision making process. Scorpio can dive off the deep end with theirs cos it's not really an objective ego (Water), it can be oversensitive to slights, so the combo of the 2 can run roughshod over others. And then afterwards praise their so called stingers because the ego is looking at the event and it approves. This creates supposed 'danger' but it's really their ego at work creating a myth. Every sign can retaliate and take revenge. Clarification enough?IP: Logged |
Jounia Knowflake Posts: 555 From: United Kingdom Registered: May 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 03:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by NickiG: oh, and like you said about cancer, scorpio also has a way of remembering EVERYTHING...all wrongs and goods that were done to them...so if you do something to them, they'll remember and "forget" to invite you to the party friday night or "forget" to bring you your coffee (if the scorpio usually does often) and will also use past events of your life or past wrongs done to the scorpio against you
I would have to agree I'm Cancer with a Scorpio moon and I'm exactly like this....unfortunetly.... IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2011 03:57 AM
This Aries can admit when they're wrong - in fact, I've pointed it out during an argument or discussion before. I bring things up from the past, if they're relevant. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 05:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: [b] What do you mean by "healthy and stronger ego"? Elaborate.
I mean that they have a stronger ego than the other water signs. They're fixed which enhances the ego. All fixed signs have strong egos; they know what they are and they know what they're not and this drives their decision making process. Scorpio can dive off the deep end with theirs cos it's not really an objective ego (Water), it can be oversensitive to slights, so the combo of the 2 can run roughshod over others. And then afterwards praise their so called stingers because the ego is looking at the event and it approves. This creates supposed 'danger' but it's really their ego at work creating a myth. Every sign can retaliate and take revenge. Clarification enough?[/B][/QUOTE]Very nice Lonake! IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 05:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: This Aries can admit when they're wrong - in fact, I've pointed it out during an argument or discussion before. I bring things up from the past, if they're relevant.
excellent! Defy and go beyond your sign and placements! IP: Logged |