posted April 01, 2012 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Well, it doesn`t seem to be true for the Aquarius men I know. My Dad has been married for 38 years now, and a colleague of mine has been married for 5 years or so I think.
Maybe it is the fixedness of Aquarius.

As for Sags, well you could be right about that one.
Those I know do not seem to have the intention of settling down, at least not when it involves rings. Maybe they mistake them for chains or handcuffs?

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posted April 01, 2012 08:14 PM            

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About Sags (and more specifically Ian S) I said…

I tend to fall for them… My Gemini Dsc is ruled by Mercury in Sag and Jupiter falls into my 7th house… which is funny because in many ways I’m a textbook Capricorn…. I do have a bunch or personal planets in fire signs but Saturn is strongly active in my chart, and I have Moon in Cancer, so I do tend to be reserved and careful and all that…. But when I do get together with strongly fiery people, like Sagittarians, they make me feel ‘alive’ like I wanna jump for joy… and I crave this type of person, probably because of Jupiter in the 7th….

The Sag Sun’s that are not textbook are probably the ones whose natal charts in general diverge greatly from their Sun Signs… a lot of Saggies will have personal planets in Scorpio and Capricorn for instance…

As for some Sagittarians being conservative…. Well Jupiter is the planet of morality…a lot of Saggies may have some pretty ‘out there’ liberal opinions… but then there are the other ones who swing in the other direction and err on the side conservatism…. The common thread here is a tendency to be opinionated and intellectually oriented.

And what I said before about liking Sags… well it’s not like I’d go for just anyone because they were a Sag. Brad Pitt for example is not my type…. But I do like Ian Somehalder from the ‘Vampire Diaries’, and I’ve actually seen him in person before, years ago, when he worked on Lost in Hawaii… he frequented a store I worked in at the time and once he totally flirted on me, and told me I had a cute accent (I’m not American). Funnily enough, I didn’t know who he was when that happened, although I did notice his looks, but after he complimented me I started to love him… He’s perfect for the role of Damon, he plays the reckless, dangerous, devil-may-care type real well… probably because a part of his own personality matches the character…. This guy has sooo much Sag in his chart! And I kind of like the fact that Nina Dobrev is his real life girlfriend… she’s a Capricorn like me (with personal placements in Aquarius and Sag), and on the show I like Elena with Damon about ten thousand times more then I like her with Stephan!

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About the Ian/Nina thing… I tend to think they are for real. I remember reading an article about them in some magazine, or maybe on the net somewhere, but apparently Ian and Nina, plus Ian’s mom and Nina’s Mom all went on vacation together to somewhere in France… and it had noting to do with promoting the ‘Vampire Diaries’… I mean, going away on vacation together with each others parents seems pretty serious to me… and there were also pictures of them walking around together holding hands and embracing. They looked very ‘love birdy’…

About the synastry…

Yes, I couldn’t help but notice that they have that amazing Mars/Venus conjunction in Sag, with her Aries Mars trining it…they definitely have chemistry that is off the hook! In their scenes together on the ‘Vampire Diaries’ it often shows very strongly… it feels like they are really in love.

Personally, think that even if they weren’t a real life couple, that having aspects like this in synastry would make actors more believable as love interests for each other on a show…because just by being around each other they would generate a certain type of energy, or vibe, together that translates into this enchanting type of on-screen chemistry…. If I were in the business of hiring actors to be on-screen love interest for each other I think I’d probably try to match them with certain aspects in synastry, like Mars/Venus (and maybe a few others as well). The classic astrological ’love synastry’ aspects seem to work well for good on-screen chemistry… On the show the character of Damon is shown as being quite obviously obsessed with Elena, and perhaps the reason this facet of the show comes across as so believable is because Ian‘s Pluto is square Nina‘s Sun…

Which brings me to my next point… Some have commented that the lack of Sun and Moon interaspects in Ian and Nina’s synastry may be a problem for them on a personal level. I think a potential ‘saving grace’ for their personal planet synastry would be an especially tight Moon-Moon sextile which is very bonding and intimate, and tends to make people feel as if they ‘belong’ with each other in their own private little union. This may help them maneuver around the tough aspects like Saturn/Uranus square Moon and Pluto square Sun. Personally, I had a Moon/Moon sextile with my best friend throughout my late high school and collage years (she is also my first cousin) and we had an amazing bond … I live abroad from her now, but I’ll be seeing her again in few months and am looking forward to rekindling our bond and being ‘family’ again. We also had Venus square Moon, and Mars square Saturn, so the synastry was not all sunshine and roses, but then again we had mercury trine Sun, Mercury trine Venus, and a few other ‘nice’ aspects to make up for it. Just like Nina and Ian, they have other stuff like Venus conjunct Mars, Mars trine Mars, Neptune sextile Venus, Uranus sextile Sun, Mercury sextile Moon, Jupiter opposite Mercury, Saturn sextile Pluto, and potentially Moon sextile Moon to go along with their harsh aspects… Perhaps I’m a romantic but I like to think they can make it work… it’s also possible that if Nina was born very late at night that she may have her Aqua Moon sextile to his Sag Sun…

posted April 01, 2012 08:18 PM            

Remember our discussions on house synastry and primary and secondary house cusps… well, with my love of ‘romance’ synastry I couldn’t help myself… since Ian’s birth time seems to be accurate, I looked for Nina in his chart…

Here’s what I came up with…

THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY 5TH HOUSE

Her Mars in Aries in his Primary 5th house, trining his 5th house ruler Mars in Sag

Her Venus in Sag conjunct his Primary 5th house ruler Mars in Sag.

Her Venus in his Secondary 5th house (which is the 1st house).

His Secondary 5th house ruler opposed to her Mercury/Moon in Aqua.

THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY 7TH HOUSE

There are no significant aspects from her chart to his primary 7th house ruler Mercury in Sag in the 1st house, but there is a symbolism(sign) match… with her Venus in Sag and Mars in Aries. Also, her Mercury/Moon conjunction is sextile/trine his Dsc/Asc axis, and meets the symbolism of his Gemini Dsc (If her Moon is in early Aqua conjunct her Mercury, which I suspect it is). There is another symbolism match showing in the aspects to his Mercury as well… his Saturn in Virgo, conjunct his Mc, is involved in an approaching square with his Sag Mercury… attraction to Sag/Cap types? It’s worth noting that she has a stellium in Capricorn…

His Secondary Dsc is in Aquarius, and as it happens her Moon/Mercury conjunction falls into the sign Aquarius. Depending on what time of the day she was born, her Moon may are may not actually be in his 3rd house… although it is also worth noting that his Secondary Dsc ruler Uranus in Scorpio is closely sextiling her Capricorn Sun by about 1 degree, and that his Secondary Dsc co-ruler Saturn is conjunct his Mc… the Capricorn point of the chart…. Nina matches very strongly with the symbolism of Ian’s Secondary Dsc.

THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY 8TH HOUSE

His 8th house ruler the Moon is sextile her Mercury, and potentially sextiling her Moon…. and tighter this aspect is the better… because her Saturn, and Uranus in Cap also square his Moon…

MY SUSPICIONS ABOUT NINA’S BIRTHTIME…

I strongly suspect that Nina is a Scorpio rising, and I suspect this for a couple of reasons. Firstly, her dark features and slightly husky voice seem very ‘Scorpion’ to me. Secondly, it would put her Moon in early Aqua sextile to Ian’s moon, which would help with the nasty squares she has to his Aries Moon, and…. if she had a Taurus Dsc, her Jupiter in Taurus would fall into her 7th house, with Venus in Sag ruling her Dsc conjunct his Sag Mars (giving her a strong attraction toward his Sag stellium, especially his Mars)….her Secondary Dsc would be the second house, with Sagittarius on the cusp,(enhancing the attraction to Sag types) and Aries, his Moon sign, is the sign on the 5th house cusp for much of the time that Scorpio is rising where she was born in Bulgaria…. Her secondary 5th house cusp would be Scorpio… his Venus sign… and her Gemini 8th house cusp ruler Mercury in Aqua would be sextile his 8th house ruler Moon in Aries…

I calculated one ‘potential’ chart for her at about 3:15 am in Sofia Bulgaria, where her Vertex would be oppose his Mars, her Secondary Dsc (the second house cusp) is in mid Sag conjunct his Sun/Neptune conjunction (And, his Sun conjunct her Secondary Dsc cusp could potentially make up for the lack of aspects from her chart to his Sun), her Aqua Moon sextiles his Aries moon by 1 degree, and that said Aries Moon falls into her 5th house… My suspicion is that their synastry is something along the lines of this this type of scenario…

Also, Ian’s Secondary Dsc ruler is Uranus in Scorpio, and Scorpio is also his Venus sign… so a Scorpio rising for Nina would enhance his attraction to her, and her Mercury/Moon conjunction in Aqua would likely fall into her own 3rd house… enhancing the symbolic match between his Gemini Dsc and her natal chart… I’d say the ideal Asc for her would be Scorpio, but (sigh) I’m not in charge of fate!

And of course, if Ian’s birth time is accurate…his Vertex is at 25 degrees of Cancer… squaring Nina’s Aries Mars, and trining her Taurus Jupiter… giving her a memorable ‘impact’ on him…

posted October 12, 2012 06:06 AM            

I saw your amazing posts just now! So sorry for the delay in replying.

"ell, I’m not really a ‘True Blood’ or a ‘Supernatural’ fan"
Well "True Blood" has pretty much worn off for me, though I do like "Supernatural", that dark humour in it, and Jensen Ackles. lol

"But when I do get together with strongly fiery people, like Sagittarians, they make me feel ‘alive’ like I wanna jump for joy"
Yes, yes, yes. same here with sagittarians and Aries people as well for some reason.
Esp. if their Mercury is in Sagittarius or Aries, they seem so enthusiastic and have that guileless joyful vibe about them. I LOVE that.
It`s like they can light up a dark room just by their positive energy.

"… and I crave this type of person, probably because of Jupiter in the 7th…."
well, for me it certainly has to do with my DESC-ruler being in Sagittarius and conjunct my Sag-Sun I guess.
And about the Aries-vibe. Maybe the 1st house position has to say something about it.

"As for some Sagittarians being conservative…. Well Jupiter is the planet of morality…a lot of Saggies may have some pretty ‘out there’ liberal opinions… "
Comparing that to myself, I do have quite liberal opinions and believe in the "Live and let live"-philosophy of openness and tolerance and independence, but then when it comes to very personal things, my private life and especially relationships, I think I am quite conversative. It`s totally okay for others to have open relationships, and in theory that sounds good for me, too, UNTIL I fall in love, and my Cappy Venus-square-Pluto kicks in.
It`s almost like a split through my personality in this regard.
When it comes to love, I am totally conversative I guess. lol
Though I can be quite open when dealing with friendships, even very close friendships.

"And what I said before about liking Sags… well it’s not like I’d go for just anyone because they were a Sag. Brad Pitt for example is not my type…."
Well, we may share the same birthday, Brad and me, (diff. year though), but he is not my type either. TOO much Capricorn. Yes I LOVE Capricorn, but for some reason not the Moon in Cappy. There is just too much of that energy in his chart, or actually there is probably too little of other energies. lol

" he frequented a store I worked in at the time and once he totally flirted on me, and told me I had a cute accent "
How cute!
But that is how he is I guess. Flirting seems to be his normal state of being. lol

"!and on the show I like Elena with Damon about ten thousand times more then I like her with Stephan!"
It was really funny, seeing Paul and Ian and Zach on the convention this year.
I mean I knew I probably would like Ian, but I never knew what a great dry sense of humour Paul has. I thought he was really cool.
I still like Elena better with Damon though.

"Yes, I couldn’t help but notice that they have that amazing Mars/Venus conjunction in Sag, with her Aries Mars trining it"
Nina, for all the Cap influence, seems to be quite a fiery girl in terms of relating style (Venus and Mars i mean). I also like how his Mars is pretty much unaspected and her Venus-Mars draws on that. Must be a pretty strong pull, and the Venus-Mars one is hot on its own already.

"that having aspects like this in synastry would make actors more believable as love interests for each other on a show…because just by being around each other they would generate a certain type of energy, or vibe, together that translates into this enchanting type of on-screen chemistry…."
Yes, I believe that, too.
I was recently looking up Nathan Fillion`s chart in comparision to STana Katic`s, as they are doing this chasing game so nicely and energetically on "Castle". Turns out they have a DW of Sun-Mars-trine (in fire and earth). LOL

"because Ian‘s Pluto is square Nina‘s Sun…"
Who do you think is the most obsessed in such an aspect? Pluto or the Sun?

Which brings me to my next point… Some have commented that the lack of Sun and Moon interaspects in Ian and Nina’s synastry may be a problem for them on a personal level."
Yes, I thought so, at first; and I still think a lack of interaspects to Sun AND Moon doesn`t bode well for an intimate relatinoship. BUT now I think that we have too litle information on her chart. And if your estimated birthtime for her is right, it might make up for that.

"especially tight Moon-Moon sextile which is very bonding and intimate, and tends to make people feel as if they ‘belong’ with each other in their own private little union."
Even if it is "just" a sextile?
As you can see I am still trying to wrap my head around this little aspect. lol

" Personally, I had a Moon/Moon sextile with my best friend"
Interestingly my best friend an dme also share a Moon-Moon-sextile, and her husband`s Moon is conjunct my Moon and therefore also sextile her Moon.

"Oh, and about being flirted on by Ian S that one time… well as it happens my Venus is in late Sag… conjunct Nina’s Venus and Ian’s Mars,"
LOL
I was just talking to a friend of mine about that kiss-scene in 3rd season, and even though I admitted that it was a nice one, somehow it didn`t "get" to me all that much.
And she was all about how HOT and SIZZLING it was. Well she is totally in love with her guy, but admits that had she met or seen Ian some years ago, he would have been EXACTLY the type she would have been falling for.
Her Venus is on 29 Sagittarius, conjunct his Mars. LOL
I thought that was a good scene, too, but somehow I was a bit less enthusiastic, about it, even though his Mars conjuncts my Sun exactly. lol

However I was telling her about another scene of another actor, which triggered the thought of: I WANNA HAVE SOME OF THAT.

And she remarked that she found that particular scene and actor as interesting as watching paint dry on the walls. lol
well in this case, the actor`s Mars is conjunct MY Venus.
AT least in these cases the Venus-Mars-thing seems to work quite well.

BTW she and her guy share a Sun (him)-Mars (her)-conjunction and some other good stuff, so it is not likely she wil go astray, even in a fantasy.

posted October 12, 2012 06:24 AM            

"well, with my love of ‘romance’ synastry I couldn’t help myself…"
I know what you mean.
I love comparing couples, too. Heck I even love comparing my chart to those of actor`s. It doesn`t mean I believe they might be the love of my life - how that would be a sad thought indeed!-, but it is a good exercise to see how astrology works, as it does. Cause so far now I can see quite clearly why I might think one actor is crush-worthy and another one isn`t.

I like their 5th house interconnections. Butterflies, chemistry, sparks - all there.

"There are no significant aspects from her chart to his primary 7th house ruler Mercury in Sag in the 1st house,"
Actually that would be a red flag to me for the lasting power of relationships, but on the other hand maybe her Moon is sextile his 7th house ruler Mercury at least?

" but there is a symbolism(sign) match… with her Venus in Sag and Mars in Aries."
I`ve been thinking about symbolic matches, and I have come wondering if they are enough.
AS of now I think it might be along these lines: He/ she is my type (if there is a symbolic match), but neither might act on it (if there are no aspects, but progressions might trigger some action as well).

" Also, her Mercury/Moon conjunction is sextile/trine his Dsc/Asc axis, and meets the symbolism of his Gemini Dsc "
Yes, I think that is important. If the ruler of 7th house is not triggered, at least the DESC itself should be.

"aspects to his Mercury as well… his Saturn in Virgo, conjunct his Mc, is involved in an approaching square with his Sag Mercury"
And squares his Sun as well.
though separating.
However, I do think that that prominent Saturn, placed on the MC and aligned with Sun and DESC-ruler Mercury, might be a reason while the Moon-Saturn-square actually provide a certain pull for them. It might still be difficult to handle, as SAturn-squares usually are, but since they both resonate with it natally, it is almost an energy they seek out, maybe.

Well, I suspect that is the reason for my pull towards Sun-SAturn and Moon-Saturn challenging aspects in synastry.
I have Moon quinkunx Saturn exact, and I can´t deny that it makes itself felt big time. lol
Other than that I do not have major Saturn activity going on in terms of Sun and Moon.
(of course my Venus is in Cappy, but that is not in a polarity or mirror-relation to the luminaries).

"matches very strongly with the symbolism of Ian’s Secondary Dsc."
Yes, so even without stronger aspects to primary DESC, at least the secondary DESC is in play.

How strong fdo you think the secondary placements are compared to the primaries?

"I strongly suspect that Nina is a Scorpio rising"
Your deduction sounds totally reasonable to me. I could see that as well yes.

"if she had a Taurus Dsc, her Jupiter in Taurus would fall into her 7th house, with Venus in Sag ruling her Dsc conjunct his Sag Mars (giving her a strong attraction toward his Sag stellium, especially his Mars)"4
Makes totally sense.

"(And, his Sun conjunct her Secondary Dsc cusp could potentially make up for the lack of aspects from her chart to his Sun)"
Definitely!

posted October 13, 2012 05:26 AM            

The first movie to connect Illuminati Aristocratic Bloodlines and Vampires was "Blade 1", and this released on 21st August 1998, a phase that saw an extremely rare grand trine of Nessus, Orcus and Eris in fire signs. Sabian of Orcus was "Zuni Indians worshiping the Sun". The Sun destroys vampires, and the movie "threw light" on their real mature of global energy control, with blood/prana being the main energy.

The Consciousness Altering of the millenium, Matrix 1, also released six months later with Orcus in 19 Leo.

This indicates a special role to Orcus in the entire Pluto in Sagittarius period.

Thus, we may get a powerful new movie or TV Series expose about the nature of Spirituality when Neptune and Orcus oppose exactly in 2013.

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posted October 13, 2012 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
where did you find ians chart with the birthtime?? i have been looking for that for a whileee now.

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He mentioned it himself on his twitter on one of his last birthdays, that it had been so and so many hours since his mum gave birth to him. I calculated a bit. And it gave this ASC.
Of course I doubted it, cause he didn`t technically SAY the time of birth, but it is as good as we can have one I guess.
I ran a check of transits and progressions for some biographic events for him, and they all resonated.
So it is definitely not a very solid birthtime, but quite a fitting one.
And since he gave the elapsed time in years, hours and minutes, I thought it must have been close to the actual birth.

posted October 13, 2012 07:24 AM            

I think we have talked about this on mail. But I found it highly interested how spiritually oriented several of the cast members especially of Vampire Diaries seem to be (sometimes serious, sometimes jokingly, but you know every joke contains more than a bit of truth).
I don´t know about true Blood, but I heard Jared Padalecki talk about some "ghostly experiences" once in an interview.

posted October 13, 2012 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
He mentioned it himself on his twitter on one of his last birthdays, that it had been so and so many hours since his mum gave birth to him. I calculated a bit. And it gave this ASC.
Of course I doubted it, cause he didn`t technically SAY the time of birth, but it is as good as we can have one I guess.
I ran a check of transits and progressions for some biographic events for him, and they all resonated.
So it is definitely not a very solid birthtime, but quite a fitting one.
And since he gave the elapsed time in years, hours and minutes, I thought it must have been close to the actual birth.

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posted October 14, 2012 06:22 AM            

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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Oh, two years ago as well, n his birthday, he was on twitter at around 12:15am (I actually saved that tweet lol), and he had tweeted how " it was around this time my mother gave birth to me ...etc etc" So he was for sure born at around 12am-1am which give him Virgo rising. What ascendant did you give him?

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Well, what do ya know. I disappear for a few days and this thread pops up again.

11nahyt, That’s so interesting that you have a different birth time for Ian. I went to astro.com and ran a new chart as soon as I read this… I based it on the 12:15 am time that you gave, although this time is probably just an approximate. At 12:15 am his rising sign shows up as 21 Virgo, and at 1am his rising shows up as 1 Libra… So if what you say is true, then Ian most likely has a Virgo rising. I could see how this would fit because even though he’s a Sag stellium personality, there seems to be a kind of sharpness to him. This chart also puts Uranus conjunct his 3rd house cusp (from the 2nd) and Mercury, Sun and Neptune in the 3rd house, and his early Aries Moon in the 7th house, which suits his very open, sociable persona (not that I know him, but he comes across that way).

I also checked the Virgo rising chart in comparison to his girlfriend and it fits quite well. He has Capricorn on the 5th house cusp, with a bunch of early Aqua in the 5th house… His girlfriend Nina is a Capricorn stellium with Moon/Mercury in Aquarius falling into his 5th house. His Dsc would be Pisces ruled by Neptune in Sagittarius and she has Venus in Sagittarius, his 8th house cusp would be Aries and her Mars in Aries sits in his 8th house (pretty steamy) trineing his 8th house ruler Sag Mars, which also conjuncts her Venus. Also if his Virgo Asc is between 17-22 Virgo it will trine his girlfriends Sun which would be helpful for compatibility…. Interestingly Nina has Juno in Virgo which would attract her to Ian’s Asc if it really is Virgo.

I’ll be keeping an open mind about his birth time from now on. Maybe his Asc is not 5 Sag afterall.

This would be his birth chart if he were born at 12:15 am

posted October 14, 2012 07:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Are you sure?

Cause when I read it I came up with a time of around 6 a.m.
Were you on at the exact time he tweeted?
We could try out a time of 00:30 then.

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posted October 14, 2012 07:13 AM            

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positive.i was on twitter around 11 something pm, to wait till 12 to wish him a happy bday lol. his first bday related tweet was that one. and when he tweeted that, it was at either 12:14 or 12:15 am.so him saying "at around this time" etc, i concluded that its definetly 12am-1am. most likely early to 30 minutes into 12am.i went into my astrotheme profile immediately to save the info and calculated the asc for him. i tried looking for the saved tweet in my favorites list. but that tweet was two years ago lol. and ever since then, ive favorited ALOT of tweets.the farthest i was allowed to go into my fav tweets was at april 14 2011. nothing else before it =[

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posted October 14, 2012 07:51 AM            

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Hmmmm, I was thinking that maybe the confusion about his birth time has something to do with the time difference between Europe and the USA. I think Ceri is from Europe, I wonder if American time or European time shows up on Twitter when you use it from Europe. I know nothing about this as I've never even been on Twitter, So I'm just guessing here. The Virgo Asc chart does explain Ian's choice of a girlfriend even better then the Sag Asc chart, which makes me think maybe the Virgo Asc chart is the right one.

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posted October 14, 2012 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hmmmm, I was thinking that maybe the confusion about his birth time has something to do with the time difference between Europe and the USA. I think Ceri is from Europe, I wonder if American time or European time shows up on Twitter when you use it from Europe. I know nothing about this as I've never even been on Twitter, So I'm just guessing here. The Virgo Asc chart does explain Ian's choice of a girlfriend even better then the Sag Asc chart, which makes me think maybe the Virgo Asc chart is the right one.

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posted October 14, 2012 08:39 AM            

However, that is settled then, Virgo ASC on 21 VIrgo.
I think it fits.

So glad you brought it up.

That 4th house Moon never sat right with me anyway.

And he keeps an important planet in the 11th house, which I find is a MUST BE given his involvement in his causes.

Actually I think he even LOOKS like a Virgo. lol

Is anyone else mesmerized with the ANGEL-MOIRA-VALENTINE-NN-conjunction on his Virgo ASC?

posted October 14, 2012 09:47 AM            

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Is anyone else mesmerized with the ANGEL-MOIRA-VALENTINE-NN-conjunction on his Virgo ASC?

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posted October 14, 2012 02:28 PM            

The closeness of their birthdays and the show's premieres are interesting. I did read somewhere that Pluto in Capricorn is to blame for the whole vampire craze because the blend of death and sexuality (Pluto) with agelessness (Capricorn). It seemed like kind of a stretch when I read it, haha, but it could be true.

But I do love Anna Paquin. I think she's an amazing actress and, from interviews and everything, seems both incredibly smart and also very funny and grounded. Her and Stephen Moyer clearly have some good synastry. Her Mars in Libra conjunct his Moon is one of the spiciest points, I'd imagine.