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enchantress299
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posted September 04, 2011 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone,

I was inspired by the thread that Ami did, when I noted that everyone was speaking about the North Node conjunctions...

In any case, I was thinking on the subject of South Node conjunctions to planets. So what I'm wondering is, do planets conjunct the South Node make those planets function almost like a retrograde planet, in that they are blocks that need to be moved past? It seems like, from my experience, that the south node planet REALLY colors the worldview and the focus of the person, to the point where it is difficult for that individual to focus on other areas of life.

I personally have a south node conjunction to Neptune. I have a friend who has a south node conjunction to Venus. And the Scorpio I was talking about, who has Pluto combust his Sun in the 8th house- those planets are conjunct his south node.

One thing I've noted about all of us, is that those planets conjunct our south node seem to be like anchors. My personality on the whole is very focused on the spiritual and the metaphysical and I tend to get daydreamy and scattered when I am wanting to avoid what's really going on. Now, Neptune is not a terribly strong influence in my chart, but I still notice its effects. It does color my world view, as I believe very much in treating life like a spiritual lesson, and all of this physical, tangible stuff (like amassing a small fortune) is not necessary to focus on.

I think what really struck me though, are my two friends, ESPECIALLY the one with the Venus conjunction to his south node. He is VERY good looking and it seems to me that he relies on that as almost a crutch to get through life. My other friend, with the Pluto/Sun/South Node conjunction in Scorpio in the 8th house is like a freaking super Scorpio, but I've noticed that his worldview tends to be more suspicious of others and this causes him to be more dictatorial/manipulative/power grabbing even with the people he cares about. Luckily my Saturn conjuncts his Pluto/Sun/SN so I seem to inherently understand this, and I've actually been able to help him out a bit when it came to smoothing things over with another one of our friends that he upset.

What do you all think? What are your experiences with this? Does it seem especially difficult for these people to move towards their North Node potentials???

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posted September 04, 2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got Moon-Neptune exact conjunction on South Node, anaretic Sagittarius at the end of the 11th house... I think it's also important to look at the houses the planets rule. In my case, it's the 2nd, the 6th and the 7th houses...

I think I retreat into the Moon-Neptune realm every time I hit a wall in life. It's something I can always fall back onto. I do believe it is a tendency I will eventually need to overcome and grow into my North Node in Gemini in the 5th... But I think these planets are an asset, not necessarily something that drags you back. It is something you have already have mastered, a gift from a past life sort of speak. Maybe that is why it is so familiar to express them and consider them as a safety net of some sort.

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posted September 04, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no experience with SN conjunctions feeling like retrogrades (possibly because my SN is conjunct a retrograde planet), though my understanding of retrogrades is limited and has really only advanced to a "inverse direction" of the planet's energy. The rest of my knowledge is lacking on the topic.

For me SN conjunctions feel like part of the view we habitually come from, our homeostasis, or the path of least resistance. It's familiar territory and therefor a safe space to abide (even if the space is destructive).

Mine is in Aries 12th house and it is very easy for me to retreat inward for selfish reasons, or use the excuse of self-preservation to retreat from being socially available for others. I never feel as comfortable as I do when I am by myself and focused on getting to know my self. My greatest challenge is the belief that getting to know others, especially in the spirit of service to mankind, is my whole reason for existing.

So in my chart that is the nodal struggle, comfort and safety vs calling and vulnerability.

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posted September 04, 2011 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon and saturn conjunct my south node in my 12th house.

A huge part of my personal development throughout my life, that I have experienced as walking up some mental/spiritual steps, has been getting a hang on my emotions, as well as claiming personal freedom, and lessening the feeling of constraint I put on myself. For much of my life, I have felt seriously constrained and limited in my personal freedom within myself, feeling extemely awkward in my own skin for most of my life, being extremely, painfully shy and unable to even physically move freely because of nervousness and mental discomfort. Nervous laughter, nervous, racing thoughts, etc. I have come a long way in claiming my personal freedom. And it feels goooooooood. Getting a cap on my emotions and learning to view life and situations in a logical context has been a HUGE breakthrough in my life as well. The two struggles, with the emotions and the freedom, have gone hand in hand. The more I view things logically, the more free I have become, the more I let go of fear.

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posted September 04, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a little theory about the moon conjunct the south node. It's not long - can be summed up in one sentence. :-P

Moon conjunct south node people have mastered the psychic realm in a past life.

There, that's it. lol

Everyone, including myself, who I know of to have the moon conjunct south node are very intuitive and "witchy", empathic, etc.

Anyone else noticed a correlation?

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posted September 04, 2011 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,

Whenever I hit a serious stumbling block in life, I retreat in to an overwhelming fantasy world, and that fantasy world becomes my entire reality almost. Moon conjunct south node thing?

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posted September 04, 2011 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes indeed we bank on the SN i think. Its the past life's asset they say. I have a stellium, moon,jup and uranus conj SN in virgo in 10th. I definately go by that a lot of times. My work (NN) though is in pisces in 4th in conj with Chiron. So i really have to work on that.

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posted September 04, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some healing to do with your family???? how do you feel that aspect?

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posted September 04, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Britterfly, I think so. Definitely empathic. I have struggled with my emotions as well, to the point of denying their existance. For a while I was sure my Moon belonged in Capricorn instead of last degree of Sagittarius. But once Pluto made a conjunction to it by transit, I became more aware of the powerful resource that my emotions truly are. It would've been a shame to dismiss them for the rest of my life. They are a part of me and they claim their rightful place in it. So I prefer to think of SN planets as gifts rather than obstacles. We need to work with them in order to reach the NN potential.

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posted September 04, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t think planets on the SN have to be really left behind like throwing them away.
But we have to remember to not get stuck on them and move forwards (preferably taking them with us).

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posted September 04, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've got a retrograde uranus in sag on the south node positioned in the 2nd house. it's the only planet i have in mutable modality (singleton) and it has no major aspects (unaspected).

it's also the midpoint for jupiter and saturn..

jupiter-saturn Point of Creativity

12 sag

"A man standing outside of a prison watches its closed door."
Withdrawn, misanthropic, and introverted character. The prison symbolises frustrations stemming from constraints and separation. One may be estranged from a family member who is living in a secluded place, or who is sick. The other possibility is that the members of the entourage do not understand one's intellectual, aesthetic, scientific, or altruistic aspirations. Nevertheless, one is capable of achieving success in the field of one's choice.

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posted September 04, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Moon conjunct south node people have mastered the psychic realm in a past life."

Yep, this is soooo true!
I have moon conjunct South Node in Virgo, squared by Chiron.

I've always felt more like a spiritual creature who belongs to the Universe, than a human being who have to live on the Earth... especially because here the rules are quite different. So, i figured out that one of my main lesson is to actually learn HOW to live and survive as a human being.
My N. Node conjunct my chart and MC ruler.

And just like britterfly, i also need to set myself free from my unrealistic emotions, and I shoould learn to rely more on reality then on those overwhelming feelings/emotions that makes no sense at all. And I think in my case the Moon-South Node also means that I should let go of some very horrible past life experiences (cause I was unconsciously clinging on them hoping that I can change the past) and learn to move forward and live in the present.

I read somewhere that if you have Moon-South Node then you have to do a lot "emotional cleaning" in order to able to move toward to your North Node, and it makes a lot of sense to me.

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posted September 04, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South Node-conjunctions in general cut off aspirations but stress the most natural powers an individual has:

Sun conjunct South Node: me-first and arrogant but naturally confident, strong will and unique.

Moon conjunct South Node: emotional and moody but naturally well-rooted in their emotions and (family)past, physic abilities, uncomplicated and good instinct.

Mercury conjunct South Node: rational, superficial and chatty but naturally rational clarity and great skills with words and logic, curious and versatile.

Venus conjunct South Node: narcistic, relationship/love-sick, unreal and smooth-talking, inclined to laziness, naturally good tact, charm, civilized and ingrained sense of beauty.

Mars conjunct South Node: abrupt and conflicting, prickly and impatient but naturally active, enterprising and energetic.

Jupiter conjunct South Node: preachers, putting others upon ethics and condemnatory, naturally ethical knowledge, educators and bringers of faith.

Saturn conjunct South Node: full of seriousness, cold and heavily discouraging, naturally responsible and a steady rock, in touch with reality, burden-bearing liabilities.

Uranus conjunct South Node: eccentric, placing environment under high voltage, highly disruptive, of original nature and strong connection with 'intuitive knowledge' to social/collective improvements.

Neptune conjunct South Node: astray and dreamy and bogged in illusions, but naturally compassionate with everyone, acceptance of all life and universal oneness.

Pluto conjunct South Node: secretive, complicated and manipulative but naturally able to penetrate to the bottom of an issue and to understand and survive a heavy crisis.

Chiron conjunct South Node: a lot of bitterness, anger and sense of injustice in life, naturally a lot of wisdom and knowledge to deal with problems by having suffered them.

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posted September 04, 2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Sand!

I am not so sure I agree with the Saturn conjunct South Node interpretation. But then again, my Saturn conjuncts my south node AS WELL AS my ascendant, so I am not sure which one I am feeling more. Saturn conjunct ascendant supposedly accounts for my self-conscious and restricted obstacle, which I am attributing to Saturn conjunct South Node.

I am not an extremely responsible person. I am actually quite flaky and flighty. I think Saturn conjunct my South Node is more of a throwback to past lives spent in various kinds of confinement.

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posted September 05, 2011 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
reading more into this stuff i found this.

Contacts to planets by the nodes or in the same degree in any other sign, show that affairs ruled by the planet will get special attention in life. An example might be a node/Jupiter contact in the chart of one who travels a great deal, or whose work involves teaching or import/export of foreign goods, or philanthropy (working for a charitable institution, perhaps).

Planets in the same degree anywhere in the chart are a warning that affairs ruled by the planet will be a lifelong headache. For instance, Mars in 12 Taurus and the nodes at 12 degrees of any sign point to trouble with the things Mars rules in the birth pattern as well as things Mars rules in general, such as a hot temper, surgery, injuries, falls, and so on. In a particular chart it might also rule the tenth house, in which case temper or an accident could harm the career.

looking at my chart i have north node in gemini in the 8th at 6 degrees and venus in taurus in the 7th also at 6 degrees. fuq!
http://www.zodiacal.com/articles/geisler/dragon.php

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posted September 05, 2011 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:

[b]Planets in the same degree anywhere in the chart are a warning that affairs ruled by the planet will be a lifelong headache. [/B]


NN/SN 12 degrees, MC/IC 12 degrees... /sadface

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posted September 05, 2011 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more on mine.

Planets activating the Jupiter/Saturn midpoint
Principle: Morality, meaning not only what one feels is generally good and bad, but your ideas about what is specifically good for you to do and what is bad for you. This pair rules assessments and judgments about how one should live one's life. The pair also rules controlled growth, organized expansion, and discipline. Jupiter/Saturn signifies a need to proceed relatively slowly, and in a grounded fashion, so that progress is steady and as free of setbacks as possible. If Saturn exceeds Jupiter in energy then one may feel that progress is too slow, or too limited or frustrating, or that one's enthusiasm is dampened. If Jupiter exceeds Saturn one may feel a lack of organization and/or stability on one's progress.

Process: The integration of moral principles into one's life. The finding of an harmonious and successful way to discipline oneself. The development of the ability to be discerning and critical and yet open, forgiving and accepting at the same time.

Uranus: You need to come to one's own decisions about what is right and wrong for you. A genius for seeing what kind of discipline is needed and for justifying why.

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posted September 05, 2011 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xiiro:
NN/SN 12 degrees, MC/IC 12 degrees... /sadface

mc/ ic are not planets! dats ur get out of jail free card!

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posted September 05, 2011 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
mc/ ic are not planets! dats ur get out of jail free card!

In that case, SCORE! I'm free!

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posted September 05, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by britterfly:
some healing to do with your family???? how do you feel that aspect?

I have got attached with my family for one reason or the other. Plus i have saturn retro in 4th. That means even if i were to take a separate house (which i could have done long time ago) it would not really be fruitful. So....there you are. In a nutshell i think we have to work on some karmas in respect to maternal family. 4th hs is for mother in vedic. Also, it means working on oneself. That is our actual home. i.e. I, me. Yes, there too i have to learn a lot of things. Doing so my whole life. Learning, learning and learning....

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posted September 05, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone!

This has been a very interesting thread to read through. Lots of you guys with Moon conjunct South Node. Sounds challenging!

What I hear from all of you, is that you think the planet/SN conjunctions really are a gift more than a challenge and I think I agree with you. I would just like to add that I think it can be easy to get stuck in approaching situations the same way- from that planet at the south node, instead of finding newer, more adaptive ways of approaching it. Therein lies the challenge of moving forward towards the North Node aspirations. But, on that same token, the planet on the SN can be a lifesaver when it comes to situations we've seen time and again.

Cool. Thank you all for your input.

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posted September 05, 2011 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One good thing about planets conjunct the SN is that they attract, by opposition, people into your life who have planets conjunct your NN.

Coincidence?

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posted June 09, 2013 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool thread. I would imagine that there any contact to a node has its benefits and drawbacks. How it affects someone might depend on that person's natal aspects as well.

Well I came here originally because I didn't want to post a New question on something I'm sure has been discussed several times. This was the closest I could find. So, I hope no one minds

I've read a lot about synastry node conjuncts but I'm wondering more about my composite placement. First i'll say in synastry we have our nodes square at 7 degrees. In our composite though, we have SN conj Pluto in first house Scorpio (conj my natal moon) and north node in 7th house composite ( 2 degree conj my Venus and a wide conj to his natal moon...yes moon opp. Moon natally).

...any insight to what this could all mean for us?

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posted May 11, 2016 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poupoupidou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South node is about what we acquired or inherited from past lifes, assuming your are into reincarnation. It is in our Karma DNA. A conjunction will only add to that energy, but there is a caveat. Relying too much on our South Node is akin to staying too much in our comfort zone, with all the negatives. This is a case where a conjunction may be a detriment, because you are not sollicitated to face life and to learn the lessons you have to learn.

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posted May 11, 2016 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus parallel South Node and a wide conjunction in natal (6 degrees so probably too wide). The love-sick bit is definitely true but I'm not narcissistic lol.

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Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet?

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