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meissieri
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posted May 09, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yessss. You nailed it, Ceri!

This has got to be why I attract/am drawn to so many people with Moon-Pluto harsh aspects. Romantically, with friendships...

I have Sun square Pluto myself. They share that kind of energy.

In my own chart, I have the sextile between Moon and Pluto, so I get some of that energy in my own life anyway.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 09, 2014 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So cool, Ceri...thanks a lot for bumping. So you've been fascinated by complements too

Yes, it was one of the biggest eyeopener to me. I thank Michael Roscher for it.

The other one was "closed circuits", which I one day discovered on my own, and only later noticed that it had been known for eons of time, just that astrologer call it aspect-figures.


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Ceridwen
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posted May 09, 2014 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ceri! Ceri! Ceri! I want my book!


We do not always get what we want, right?

I actually many years ago even started, but as it is I have had so many concepts and theories floating in this mind of mine, and I need to find a structure, which I haven`t yet. And before I know my synthesis, there wil be no book. I suppose that is what the Sagittarius-North Node with Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house is striving for and at the same time that Neptune on it and squaring Jupiter confuses me with all the possibilities and "thinking around corners"

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Ceridwen
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posted May 09, 2014 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is a brilliant article and an in depth analysis involving signs, houses and dispositors apart from the aspects. I like it a lot. I love how you pointed out the importance of projection here, both in terms of positive mirroring and "shadowing" so to speak and I love your concepts of "underlying compatibility" for familiarity and "underlying attraction" for complementarity (I think this adds to compatibility, in fact). I second what lalalinda said, it would be a pity not to write a book or at least an article on this, Ceri it is such important astrological work

Thank you.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 09, 2014 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, don`t tell anyone, but I truely believe that THIS is one of the building blocks of twinflames (of course it actually is true for any relationships, too, probably, but without it I wouldn`t believe two people are likely to be twinflames).

But as I said, hush, hush, don`t tell anybody.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 09, 2014 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

The other one was "closed circuits", which I one day discovered on my own, and only later noticed that it had been known for eons of time, just that astrologer call it aspect-figures.


LOL it looks like we share a lot of fascinations, no wonder our NN conjunct the funny thing is I noticed them too, by myself, before discovering they exist, in astrology But even nowadays, there are very few studies on aspect patterns, IMO.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 09, 2014 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Btw, don`t tell anyone, but I truely believe that THIS is one of the building blocks of twinflames (of course it actually is true for any relationships, too, probably, but without it I wouldn`t believe two people are likely to be twinflames).

But as I said, hush, hush, don`t tell anybody.


shhhhhh (I agree, there is a complex web of mirrors, yin/yang complements and archetypes, pattern-completion in natals approaching a twinflame meeting and in twinflame relationship charts), but hush hush lol

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Belba
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posted May 11, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today is my parents' wedding anniversary. They've been together for over 25 years and will, almost certainly, stay together until death do them part. Their relationship is far from being fairytale-like and there were times when I sincerely wished them to separate, but it was never an option for them. I admire them for their loyalty and stability. So, enough with this drivel. I would like to honour their successful marriage with my synastric analysis of their charts:

Mirror
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Sun/Moon

Her Sun conjunct Mercury/ His Sun in 3H
Her Sun in Sag, sextile Jupiter/His Sun trine Jupiter, Sun dispositor in Sag
Her Sun conjunct Neptune/His Sun in Pisces
Her Moon sextile Saturn/His Moon opposite Saturn
Her Moon dispositor in Libra/His Moon in 7H
Her Sun in 11H/His Sun dispositor in 11H

Mercury

Her Mercury dispositor in Libra/His Mercury dispositor in 7H

Venus/Mars

Her Venus in 1H, dispositor in Aries, square Mars/His Venus in Aries
Her Mars in Libra and square Venus/His Mars in 7H

Other similarities

Both have Jupiter as chart ruler, her is in 9H and his is in Sagittarius.
Her Ascendant is trine Saturn and he has Saturn in 1H.
And the most amazing thing of all:
their NN's are opposite, her has dispositor Mars, which is in Libra and he has NN disposited in Venus in Aries. That's what I call a karmic connection 

Another important connection:
Her Ascendant is square Pluto, exact.
His AC dispositor is also square Pluto, exact.
That explains a lot of their power games, one manipulating with excessive showcases of emotions, other by stoic, cold withdrawals etc. Although they've calmed down a lot and matured in the last years 

Yin/Yang
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Her Sun conjunct Mercury/His Moon square Mercury exact!
Her Sun conjunct Neptune/His Moon trine Neptune
Her Venus dispositor in Aries, Venus square Mars/His Mars dispositor in Aries
Her Sun dispositor in Libra/His Moon in 7H


Synastric reinforcements
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Her Venus opposite his Moon (exact)
Her Sun inconjunct his Venus

Her Sun conjunct his Ascendant
Her Ascendant inconjunct his Moon

Her Moon opposite his Uranus (exact)
Her Uranus opposite his Sun
(this one is in my opinion very important, because her Moon is in Aquarius and she needed this Uranian dimension to feel emotionally comfortable)

Her Moon square his Neptune
Her Neptune trine his Sun
(Here it was his Neptunian »manliness« activated, for he is a Pisces Sun and his ego needed Neptune activated in synastry)

Her Venus opposite his Moon
Her Moon square his Mars

Her Mars sextile his Uranus
His Uranus inconjunct her Venus exact!


To sum it up, I think that what really keeps them together is their unresolved karma, they have a lot yet to learn from each other, they will have to try and meet in the middle of the path between Aries and Libra NN. But otherwise the prevailing planets are, at least in my opinion: Mars, Neptune and Uranus. With a spice of Pluto. Or not, I'm not quite sure, it's really hard to make conclusions of such complex things…

Anyway, I wish them many more happy years together

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 11, 2014 12:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belba, thank you for sharing your parents story, very nice analysis.

I wish them many more happy years too!

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Gabby
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posted May 14, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have found someone I have some of these with...tell me if these count as what your talking a about!

His Aqua Mars
My Mars trines Uranus

His Scorpio Venus
My Venus conjunct Pluto

My saggy Sun/Merc conjunct
His saggy AC/Merc conjunct

His 3rd house Pisces Moon conjunct IC
My 12th house unaspected Virgo Moon

His Pluto inconjunct NN
My Scorpio NN

His Pluto conjunct Uranus
My Scorp Uranus

His 9th house Jupiter conjunct Part of Fortune
My Saggy Part of Fortune

His Jupiter inconjunct Mars
My Aries Jupiter

His Jupiter square his AC
My jupiter opposed my AC

His Venus sextile Jupiter
My Venus opposed Jupiter

My 10th house Leo Saturn trines my Saggy Sun
His 4th house Aries Saturn trines his Saggy Sun

His Scorpio Neptune
My Neptune sextile Pluto
His Neptune sextile Pluto

His Pluto on angle-MC
My Pluto on angle-AC

My AC sextile Merc/Sun
His AC conjunct Merc/Sun

My Virgo Moon is square to my sag Sun(by sign out of aspect)
His Pisces Moon is square his sag Sun

His Sun/Merc conjunct(by sign, out of aspect)
My Sun/Merc conjunct(tight)

My Uranus square Saturn
His Uranus square Saturn

My Vesta/Pallas opposed Moon
His Vesta sextile Moon
His Pallas opposed Moon

His Ceres trine Sun
My Ceres opposed Sun

His Libra Karma on South Node in angle house(10th)
My Libra Karma in 12th on angle(AC)

His North Node direct
My North Node direct

His Karma sextile Sun
My Karma sextile Sun

His Karma semi sextile Uranus/Pluto/Neptune
My Karma semi sextile Uranus/conjunct Pluto/sextile Neptune

My Vertex inconjunct my NN
His Vertex square his NN

His Vertex trine his Chiron
My Vertex conjunct my Chiron

His Vertex trine his Moon
My Vertex inconjunct my Moon

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Gabby
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posted May 17, 2014 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would this mean anything....
His 7th house is in gemini
My 7th house aries ruled by mars
I have a gemini mars

My 5th house is ruled by aquarius
His 5th house is in aries ruled by mars
He has an aquarius mars

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 18, 2014 07:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Would this mean anything....
His 7th house is in gemini
My 7th house aries ruled by mars
I have a gemini mars

My 5th house is ruled by aquarius
His 5th house is in aries ruled by mars
He has an aquarius mars


I think it's a nice mirror.

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LionFish
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posted May 18, 2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Decided to have a look at these between my fiance and I. The first thing that really stood out was my 5H Sag Mars and his 5H Scorp Mars square jupiter and his aqua sun with my sun square uranus.

We also have:
his 3H moon in virgo sq Saturn
my 10H Moon in taurus sextile merc

my venus in aries
his venus quintile mars

his sun in aqua
my moon quincunx uranus

my sun in pisces
his moon trine neptune

his mars in scorp
my venus quincunx pluto

my moon in taurus
his moon quincunx venus

my mars in sag
his venus conjunct jupiter

my asc ruler is the sun
his asc ruler is the moon

it seemslike they go on forever. i suppose thats agood thing though

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Faith
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posted December 04, 2015 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So brilliantly laid out Ceri. Thank you!

I was once very emotionally focused on someone with whom I had an outrageous number of these matching aspects and placements, then it turned out we had sun conjunct sun in draconic ~ icing on the cake.

The composite was not strong, and the pr composite was even worse...maybe that's why, for all the similarities and deep connections, it didn't hold together.

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Ashes2Phoenix
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posted September 29, 2019 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ashes2Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have resurrected this thread as I've been noticing "mirroring" (I will use that term for everything even complements) in the natals of everyone close to me outside of family members. I normally see it in the angles and luminaries to the point that it's scary. I wonder if I gleam something from them or we just have an affinity based on these similarities.

Each one of my friend's angles either reflect my angles or nodal/vertex axis. Each one.

Example:

Friends have Sag ASC/Gem DSC
I have Sag IC/Gem MC

Same friends have Pisces NN/Virgo SN
I have Virgo ASC/Pisces DSC

Friend 1 has Leo ASC/Aqua DSC
Friend 2 has leo vertex/aqua antivertex
I have Aqua NN/Leo SN

All our angles or nodes/vertices aspect each other so there's that as well.

There is also mirroring with the luminaries.

Many of them, pretty much all have:
Fire Sun or Moon in 8th....I'm a Scorpio Sun

One friend has Sun in 12th...I'm a Pisces Moon

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