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tuxedoMask
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posted September 16, 2011 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw, your post is the best for having those charts along with it!

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw this. Player charts, my specialty
Will look.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right off, I see a player aspect. Lilith conj Saturn in the 5th.
The player can have a sexual asteroid conjunct Saturn. He keeps trying to "figure out" the sexual asteroid by his playing. This is my take on it. I may be wrong.

That seems like a biggie, to me.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another player aspect is ruler of the 9th in the 5th. He sublimates his deep questions about life in to flings.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another one
Ceres conj Venus. They have to pull you in with tenderness.If not, who would go
Ceres is a very tender sort of love, unconditional love,I think.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami, how dare you!? i have bml in my fifth!

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in Pisces conj Pallas. Yes, this could add to a player but is not indicative of one.

Pisces men come and go. Right,Lioness

They are here ,today,hot and heavy, and are gone ,tomorrow lol

Pallas is wisdom. I read that it can be sexual abuse or other bad kinds of emotional abuse by the father which could set the stage for a player.

So, he has some player aspects.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK
I think I get it. Every player needs the right synastry. If not, the fit won't be there no matter how attractive he is.

You fit with him like a hand in a glove. I see that.I see what you mean

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posted September 16, 2011 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK
I think I get it. Every player needs the right synastry. If not, the fit won't be there no matter how attractive he is.

You fit with him like a hand in a glove. I see that.I see what you mean

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posted September 16, 2011 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he would feel this synastry as strongly as you do.
I did not read all the posts to see what happened,but you both would be smitten,it seems, from the synastry.

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posted September 19, 2011 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that its funny how, all along you could see that this guy is a player, have heard others say that he doesn't have that many friends, seen him flirt and sleep around at work and through it all, you still expect his behavior with you to be "above board"? Hmmmm.

But girls tend to be like that with guys who are "loose". I don't know why that is.

Most women like guys who look like loose cannons because it gives them a role to fill, the one of being a "savior". So many women think that they can "change" a man's behavior and have him behave differently with them, as compared to how they behave with others.

I think this experience may have more to do with him than you because you weren't caught off-guard about his nature, but walked straight into it.

I had a girl-friend whom was attracted to bad boys; she just seemed to like them "edgy" and difficult to pin down. She had her Venus in Scorpio(love of danger/unexplained) with Moon in Gemini(curious and likes variety in a non-judgemental kinda way).

Another girl I knew had her moon in Cancer opposing her boyfriend's in Capricorn and her Venus in Virgo forming a quincunx aspect with her boyfriend's Venus in Aries.

The relationship was stormy and she always tried to analyse his behavior in an effort to highlight what "he" was doing wrong. I found that interesting to observe.

I am not really interested in the guy yu are talking about as he was honest about whom he is from the start.

What I want to know is where your Venus and Moon is. Perhaps this could explain the initial attraction and the feeling of not having your experience work out in a way that is satisfying to you.

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posted September 19, 2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the player and the playee have to fit.One player won't fit with everyone.The charts will show this.

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posted September 19, 2011 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the player and the playee have to fit.One player won't fit with everyone.The charts will show this.

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posted September 19, 2011 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this part ----
"he would stare at me with an intensity that was almost scary, he would smile, get nervous and clumsy in my presence" ---- and thought to myself... hmmm I wonder if he's a Pisces, because that sounds soooo much like my ex, it's uncanny -- specially the getting clumsy part - and also shaky.
So I scrolled down - and a Pisces he was!

lol

But then when I read the rest of the post... I was like --- Oh Yeah.. he is *definitely* a Pisces through and through.

Not a player... Just a Pisces

Don't sweat it too much, because there are many different types of people out there and obviously many different Pisces men out there.. But in terms of romantic relationships, I think you can just about put them in two camps: the 'level headed'/psychologically understanding/caring camp --- and the psychotic/irrational/*wtf*/why in the world would anyone behave that way?/what is your problem?? camp!

Basically, it's not you - it's him.
And he is probably not a player. He just has a few screws loose.

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posted September 19, 2011 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
This topic reminded me of Coffee,who said that celebrities post on LL In light of those notions,I have to ask-Gaga,is this u????

There WAS one.Wave link in Sweet Peas. I could feel he was the real deal,but he never came back. He had his Mars on my Venus, too

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posted September 19, 2011 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK
I think I get it. Every player needs the right synastry. If not, the fit won't be there no matter how attractive he is.

You fit with him like a hand in a glove. I see that.I see what you mean


Ami, what exactly do you mean with "every player needs the right synastry"?

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posted September 19, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
well, he does have uranus squaring mars as well
maybe you're right

I also have mars (and venus) square Uranus the orb is not that tight though (6-7 degrees)

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posted September 19, 2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 19, 2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
I think that its funny how, all along you could see that this guy is a player, have heard others say that he doesn't have that many friends, seen him flirt and sleep around at work and through it all, you still expect his behavior with you to be "above board"? Hmmmm.

But girls tend to be like that with guys who are "loose". I don't know why that is.

Most women like guys who look like loose cannons because it gives them a role to fill, the one of being a "savior". So many women think that they can "change" a man's behavior and have him behave differently with them, as compared to how they behave with others.

I think this experience may have more to do with him than you because you weren't caught off-guard about his nature, but walked straight into it.

I had a girl-friend whom was attracted to bad boys; she just seemed to like them "edgy" and difficult to pin down. She had her Venus in Scorpio(love of danger/unexplained) with Moon in Gemini(curious and likes variety in a non-judgemental kinda way).

Another girl I knew had her moon in Cancer opposing her boyfriend's in Capricorn and her Venus in Virgo forming a quincunx aspect with her boyfriend's Venus in Aries.

The relationship was stormy and she always tried to analyse his behavior in an effort to highlight what "he" was doing wrong. I found that interesting to observe.

I am not really interested in the guy yu are talking about as he was honest about whom he is from the start.

What I want to know is where your Venus and Moon is. Perhaps this could explain the initial attraction and the feeling of not having your experience work out in a way that is satisfying to you.


ok. maybe unconsciously we girls are attracted to bad guys but believe me at the beginning I had no idea how he is! for me it was love at first sight. actually remember my first impression was that we is a quite caring and shy guy. then again when we firstly kiss I didn't know all these details. it was only after we kissed (i got intrigued cause he invited me to his place straight away) so I asked common friends and that's when I found out that he's a "player". he doesn't sleep around at the office, actually he's very careful with this, but he has a very "active" social life.

after my friend warned me about him I withdrew, my instinct was to stay away. but somehow, it was his behavior towards me that made me believe that he genuinely likes me.
normally i am not attracted to bad guys but yes I like men that are very emotional and intense.

PS: my moon is in Taurus (trine) Venus in Virgo

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posted September 19, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,my friend was with a player who had an Aqua moon and some Asc that would not have fit with me.
One's planets need to line up,is what I mean .

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posted September 19, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I read this part ----
"he would stare at me with an intensity that was almost scary, he would smile, get nervous and clumsy in my presence" ---- and thought to myself... hmmm I wonder if he's a Pisces, because that sounds soooo much like my ex, it's uncanny -- specially the getting clumsy part - and also shaky.
So I scrolled down - and a Pisces he was!

lol

But then when I read the rest of the post... I was like --- Oh Yeah.. he is *definitely* a Pisces through and through.

Not a player... Just a Pisces

Don't sweat it too much, because there are many different types of people out there and obviously many different Pisces men out there.. But in terms of romantic relationships, I think you can just about put them in two camps: the 'level headed'/psychologically understanding/caring camp --- and the psychotic/irrational/*wtf*/why in the world would anyone behave that way?/what is your problem?? camp!

Basically, it's not you - it's him.
And he is probably not a player. He just has a few screws loose.


Betty, can you tell me more about the second type of Pisces? pisces men from my past would fall in love with me after the first date / interaction, then they would get some much into me and become so needy that i would just step back. actually i had a three month relationship some years ago with a guy born in the same day, same year he used to write me poems & and be superromantic, how can two men born in the same day be so different?

PS: any thought on Chiron cj ASC (we both have this aspect), do you think it plays a role?

And to be very honest
I am mad with myself cause I know deep inside I still like him. guess it's not that easy to shut down some feelings from one day to another. any suggestions on how to let go on the "psychotic/irrational/*wtf*/why in the world would anyone behave that way?/what is your problem??" fish?

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posted September 19, 2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen Chiron conjunct the ASC in my doing charts.It,often indicates bullying in the early years.Did you have that?

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posted September 19, 2011 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by allouette:
Hello flakes,

Some time ago I opened a thread “Player” telling you about my (then) romantic interest. Two weeks ago things turned out really really weird…

I will try to keep it short: he is a coworker, with a player reputation. He sleeps around a lot and tells his friends he’s not interested in relationships. One of his mates told me he doesn’t really have any close friend. Another mate told me he’s a bad person. With all this background info, I tried to keep the distance as much as possible, even though I found him extremely attractive.

Anyways, he would flirt with me and make compliments but never ask me out. Two months ago at a party we kissed (for the first time) and asked me to come to his place. I said no. After this, apparently he started to develop a crush on me: he would stare at me with an intensity that was almost scary, he would smile, get nervous and clumsy in my presence etc. After one month, at another party he got drunk and asked me to go out to take some pictures. We started to kiss and again he invited me to his place. I said ok only if we don’t have sex. I went, we didn’t have sex and the next day he started to act strange. He asked me to leave and stop kissing him, because he doesn’t like it etc. I left. After that, again, he acted like nothing happened, be friendly etc. After two weeks (this is the last episode), another party, he freaked me out completely: he would look at me & treat me like I was his worst enemy, avoid me, even yell at me to go away and leave him alone! I cannot find any explanation for his behavior, because I haven’t done anything in particular! The only thing I did was to ask him why he is upset with me and he said he is not upset with me, but we simply don’t have anything to talk. And he looked at me sooo indifferent! Since then of course I avoid him completely but still would like to understand what happened, what went so wrong.

When I recall his behavior I think that maybe everything was in my mind, that he never liked me and he only played me! You cannot be so indifferent / disgusted with someone you liked one week ago…maybe that’s why he never really asked me out or show clear interest…maybe there was no interest! But then again, why he would act like a jerk? He is friendly with the other colleagues and I've never seen him like that. This man is the weirdest thing that happened to me, I swear

I would really appreciate any insight. Will try to give you the whole picture, and post his chart, our synastry & composites


when i was between 17-20 years old i got a lot of what you got. the true was, a guy that seemed so interested became cold and ignored me when i did not wanted to have sex with me. for me the answer is simple. I may be wrong but given the background information, he felt frustrated he could not get you in bed. that is all. he did not have feelings only desire and he could not fulfill it. i dont know if you need a synastry for that, but i suspect that you may find lot of sexual atraction from his side, or jus tthat. no feelings..

few days ago, i have a experience with somobody i know is only interested in me for sex. funny, i had told him that i may visit his city and he start calling. when he reasized that i am not coming, he lost interest. his interest was me visit his apto. but if i am not going to visit any time soon, he does not see a point in continuing calling.

you get the idea

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