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allouette
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posted September 14, 2011 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 14, 2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 14, 2011 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as you can see from the charts I"ve posted, there are some patterns:

ASC - Chiron
Sun- Venus
Moon - Angles

but how do they fit into the story?

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posted September 14, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u rule for posting!
well, from the synatry,
your pluto opposes his venus!!!!

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posted September 14, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has uranus squaring mars.

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posted September 14, 2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in composite, uranus also squares mars.
there was one person i met who did something similar
and it turned out they had a history of doing it
and it had it's roots in a whooooole long history of
not being ok or sure with them being themselves
and for some reason religion played a HUGE role in
them feeling awkward almost with all things sex.

uranus opposed mars for the person i'm speaking of, too, by 8 degrees.

i would suggest looking more into it and trying
to figure out his chart as there'd probably be good information
for you to find out and work through there, yourself!

it more than likely has nothing to do with you
the guy has intimacy issues.

your pluto is also calling the shots
it probably freaks him out that he has no control
and that he can't just sleep with u and dump u as he might want to
it's fun so enjoy the upper hand.

DO maintain your distance though because that pluto and venus
pluto can REALLY just flip his world upside down
and it might not end so good for the venus!
especially if the venus is acting in the way that they do.

but there's something there.
so look into whatever ways you may have acted like him
what kind of history do u have of being freaked out just the same..

you have mars conjunct venus.

that aspect makes you quite attractive but it does at the same time,
indicate someone who may or may not be inclined to one nights
or clandestine affairs

how have u flirted to get your own boost of self esteem
before you got rid of em?

it's probably what he was trying to do with you but then
was thrown for a loop because he couldn't have u
and then you for some reason have a hold on him

...guy also has saturn in his fifth...

tom cruise has saturn in his fifth.

one person i avoided at all costs on a forum
has saturn in the fifth.
they're safe to be called everything that the fifth house isn't!

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posted September 14, 2011 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he thought you were playing games with him? If you kissed him but then said no further maybe he thought you were just teasing? He's got a lot of water, so he will be sensitive.

I can understand the need to get to know one another first but you seemed to listen to the gossip and look at his reputation before looking at him as a person. I can't see how close your saturn is to his moon, that is normally a fated meeting but can also make you a bit frosty towards his emotional responses.

Saturn is having its return in the composite which could explain the recent difficulties.


Because you have your moons in opposite signs it's possible you missed one anothers "cues".

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posted September 14, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TuxedoMask,

your insights are really helpful, thank you.

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posted September 14, 2011 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
Maybe he thought you were playing games with him? If you kissed him but then said no further maybe he thought you were just teasing? He's got a lot of water, so he will be sensitive.

I can understand the need to get to know one another first but you seemed to listen to the gossip and look at his reputation before looking at him as a person. I can't see how close your saturn is to his moon, that is normally a fated meeting but can also make you a bit frosty towards his emotional responses.

Saturn is having its return in the composite which could explain the recent difficulties.


Because you have your moons in opposite signs it's possible you missed one anothers "cues".



our saturn -moon conjunction is 6 degrees apart, so not that tight...

can you tell me more about moon-moon opposition, have you ever experienced it? it's the first time I have this aspect with someone

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posted September 14, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't say I thought he was a victim.

The moon saturn is more than close enough to be having an effect. He has a scorpio moon and will be very sensitive to emotional undercurrents.

Having your moons in opposition will give you opposite emotional needs, this can work but only when both parties can get where the other is coming from. The moon opposition will have very different emotional responses. It can create intensity but it can lead to difficulties because both parties will find that same intensity difficult to handle.

We can have lots of experience with men and women but none when it comes to genuine intimacy.

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posted September 14, 2011 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for explaining how the moon-moon opposition works.

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posted September 15, 2011 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's generational but that doesn't matter.
it aspects both of u guys' sun so it is very much personal.
and it does affect him.

pluto is not a weak planet.
pluto rules obsessions!
the thing is, that the pluto does not notice it.
for some reason the intensity is too common to them
and to the venus it isn't
so to the venus,
it's sticking out like a sore thumb!

his lashing out is mars in hard aspect to uranus.
i can't see his mercury as i'm typing this..

but the pluto conjunct ur mercury does tend to happen
when both of the individual are going through a life
changing time in their lives.

i don't know if the relationships ever last
but it does help to get deeeeep into things!

conversation can be deep
and so can be manipulation from the pluto
on your mercury.

the lesson is to learn your power
your mental power
learn how to operate it
how to research
how to delve into things
and when to stand your ground
.. all of it deals with how strong your beliefs actually are.

how rooted they are in something sturdy.
any flimsiness or weak spots will be hunted down
and be brought out in to the open.

if the individual is not the best of characters
they can use that to get an upper hand.

saturn in the fifth is anything BUT fifth house!
i have my sun there, natally.

the fifth house saturn person in the forums,
absolutely hated everything i had to post
especially with my sun being so comfortable there
they weren't
they lashed out
truth is though,
even though none of my posts were related to them
they were miserable.
i later found out that they got someone pregnant
and the baby was miscarried.

saturn there REALLY puts a cold hard hand on all of their fifth house dealings!

that goes for tom cruise..
remember when he and katie got together?
he jumped on that couch..

who does that!?

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posted September 15, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also, your sun's and venus' leads to a LOT of game playing.
lots of flirting and wooing the other just to then move away
i really do urge you to maintain your distance
because all that flirting
and that pluto.. NO BUENO!!!!!

with your pluto in the mix,
it could result in him being fired!
(economically, i don't think anyone wants that; especially these days!)

venus does also rule money...
is he your superior?

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posted September 16, 2011 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You learn all of this yet you still want to play with him?

haha.

What do you want from him? His Aids?

You show some people the mirror and yet they still want to break the glass and slice through their neck.

goodluck!

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posted September 16, 2011 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This topic reminded me of Coffee,who said that celebrities post on LL In light of those notions,I have to ask-Gaga,is this u????

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posted September 16, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL guys who take you to their place and say that they're ok with u guys not having sex (hint) are NEVER ok with u guys just not having sex........ LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

it probably sucks that you liked him,
you'll get through that
the pluto and venus really thins out the line between love and hate
u can maintain ur distance but if he acts out
don't hesitate to use that sting

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posted September 16, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TuxedoMask,

you reminded me of Tom Cruise hmmm don't you think it was a touch of Uranus there?
i found a funny spoof of youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YR0_m9g78I&feature=related


well, he does have uranus squaring mars as well
maybe you're right


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posted September 16, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His behavior is not surprising to me at all. He is just used to getting his way with women all the time, and he's like a big baby. He probably can't handle a genuine interaction with another person; it's all about games, or he gets uncomfortable. Since you built up his hopes by going home with him (not your fault what goes on in his big baby head) but you didn't sleep with him like he wanted, and instead maintained your self-respect, he lost power in the situation. Now he's angry with you. He can not manipulate you or take advantage of you. Poody Poo!

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