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sand
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posted September 18, 2011 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
I think I discussed singers somewhere on here recently, it was really interesting that the charts I studied revealed that most successful singers have 3rd House ruler in aspect to the MC or the MC ruler.

I also expect to find at least one planet IN the 3rd House. Interestingly there are no particular planets you can rely on to be prominent though Mercury, Venus or Neptune on an angle can figure, mostly the planets involved in the profile reflect the *kind* of voice.

Ability to sing is a different thing to doing it for a living of course. In those cases look to 3rd House planets and 3rd House ruler with lots of enhancement aspects.

Singing is more about communication than 'the throat'


Welll... I have Uranus, my 3rd house ruler, conjunct Mercury, not only my 7th house ruler but also my MC ruler

That being said, my 3rd house, much like almost all my other houses, is empty.

And even though I know to an extent and have been told that I have quite a good singing voice, I lack the self-esteem to do it professionally. I keep on thinking I'm not good enough and constantly try to nearly perfect my singing voice and if it's not "perfect" enough, I tend to figure: well, can't sing after all. To think also that singing is one of the few things that makes me incredibly happy.

My dad's supposed to be a good singer too. I say supposed to be because since choir, no one's really heard him sing. He does sing, but only when no one is around. He has some planets in his 3rd house though, but no aspect between his 3rd house ruler and MC ruler. He also has Saturn in 3rd which might explain why he does not speak up while singing. Well, that, and the fact that he does have a Retrograde Capricorn Mercury...

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posted September 18, 2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ahh thats cool stawr. I heard julie andrews had perfect pitch.
yur a taurus? its either yur a taurus or its the other 'S'person who is haha. Also whats yur mercury?
OH! and also whats yur vocal range?

Taurus Mercury house 12! aha!
I'm a Saprano.
But now I smoke, so maybe a Mezzo Saprano now.

Yes I guess Taurus Mercury has something speacial about their voice. Dudes I would talk to on the phone. "I want to hear your voice" And I met this girl that is a lesbian and she told me that I would make a good phone sex person. LOL

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posted September 19, 2011 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol sex voice ahh so yu do have taurus okay and i think i was thinking of sand being the taurus! lol. blah dont smooookeee!! >.< thats funny tho how yur now mezzo hahahah and what's like the lowest note and highest yu can sing to?

It seems lots of people are more vocally talented than i thought after reading these things

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posted September 19, 2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not exactly sure what the highest and lowest note I can hit is now...but I may just have to find out...for astrology purposes! lol

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posted September 19, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a good singer...actually, more than just good, not to be all modest about it, because there's no need to...Aries ASC, Taurus Moon, Cap Sun/Merc conj MC...

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posted September 19, 2011 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been told that I am an alto

Since we're talking about Taurus, I'm pretty sure that every time a female voice annoyed me (very high pitched, nasal etc) - it was a Taurus female. I never quite got that, Taurus is supposed to mean a great voice, but the sun sign in females often means the opposite (no offense to anyone here, my best friend is a Taurus and I love her to bits, even her weird voice )

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posted September 19, 2011 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Taurus
Venus in Leo

Those are placements which I could find in a lot of singers charts.

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posted September 19, 2011 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, Yeah I have a friend with Taurus Sun, Gemini Moon, Cap Rising, and Taurus Mercury.

And she is loud and nasal.

When our guy friend was drinking with us...he called her Fran Dresser...(HARSH)
And naw she can't sing. lol

But then I have a cousin who is a few weeks younger than me...and she is QUIET! I sware she use to have selective mutism. When we where 12 and certain people tried to talk to her...she was a deer in the headlights.
She has Taurus Sun Leo Moon, and Mercury Taurus.

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posted September 19, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love to sing. While Id never get up infront of a crowd (This would lead me to overly self criticize myself, thus wanthing to hide under a rock everytime I remembered it) I have been told Im a really good singer and should "go" for things.

I have been singing since I can remember and Ive learned to manipulate and train my voice to do just about anything.

Dont really know if I have anything in my chart for it but you can look if youd like
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posted September 20, 2011 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I'm not exactly sure what the highest and lowest note I can hit is now...but I may just have to find out...for astrology purposes! lol

yes for astrology i must know! and yu have scorp moon right? just being stereotypical here, sex voice due to that perhaps (my friend has scorp moon and taurus merc aries sun and she has a nice singing voice sorta sexyish voice)

allssoooo to whoever said about the nasally sounding taurus merc's!!! my mother cannot sing at all gawd! its atrocious and i always say its too nasally! like its stuck in her throat. hahah and so does my little cousin he talks kinda like that.

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posted September 20, 2011 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also!!! anybody wanna sample their voice to hear if there are any similarities between the mercuries and ASC.'s? Leave a voice clip and yur merc and asc! Yu can leave a short song clip or voice clip say a sentence or so.
www.vocaroo.com

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posted September 20, 2011 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have perfect pitch and can sing well but will never do it professionally (even though I was a professional French Horn player) and I still teach and write music- masters in music composition.

Gemini ASC
Jupiter in the 3rd
Merc and Jupiter trine, Merc square MC
3rd house ruler- Sun, conj 10th house ruler- Neptune
Merc in the 6th (maybe helps with perfect pitch)
5th house ruler- Venus in the 5th
Pluto, Uranus and Venus in the 5th
Oh, and a Taurus Moon...

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posted September 20, 2011 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought it had sth to do with taurus? Like venus in taurus? Or venus in 2nd house?

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posted September 20, 2011 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo planets scream out "look at me" so yes often common in people who end up or thrive in the public eye, performing.

Leo planets don't point to talent, in my opinion, but enthusiasm

Looking at a few more charts, it's seems the angular planets are more reliable than the 3rd House tenants.

Also please note whilst I recogise 3rd house emphasis and interaction with MC/MC ruler as a likely signature, there is no completely reliable MC profiling rule. Charts are too complex for there to be so.

Another thing is I don't associate recognition with talent! I'm sure there all of you can think of quite a few known singers who have very little singing ability.

You can learn to develop your voice, but those born with wonderful singing ability are gifted and stand out. You only have to listen to an early Michael Jackson song to be sure he is one of the gifted ones

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posted September 20, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would second that Leo has the ability to be in the spotlight, to perform and to have the ability to finish what they start so to keep on going.

Also that Leo can be a good singer but not always raw talent, Madonna for one is not the best singer in the world but she is the best in her line of business due to her savvy nature and the ability to use her full potential with what she has.

I was watching x factor Uk which is a rare occasion and a woman went on time and time again and came on again this year just to be rejected again. She thought she was a good singer but the judges even though they were new ones kept on saying NO. Some people think they are good but are not objective. When I was about 8 my friends encouraged me to sing to a teacher for the lead part in the play and even had me convinced and she flat out said no. I haven't tried again since as I believe am tone deaf!!!(what sounds good to me may not to others!)

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posted September 20, 2011 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by L0veLess:
yes for astrology i must know! and yu have scorp moon right? just being stereotypical here, sex voice due to that perhaps (my friend has scorp moon and taurus merc aries sun and she has a nice singing voice sorta sexyish voice)

allssoooo to whoever said about the nasally sounding taurus merc's!!! my mother cannot sing at all gawd! its atrocious and i always say its too nasally! like its stuck in her throat. hahah and so does my little cousin he talks kinda like that.


Yes, I have Scorp Moon, and Aries Sun also.
Guys that "like me say that they want/like to hear my voice...but it's not in a sexual way. lol
But I realized that when my lesbain friend said that. We where also h!gh...lol...I think. and...when when I smoke and it's good sh!t. I start to talk different.

Another time I was with a guy and had dro...he asked me if I was bi-sexual, cause I was talking like it. (wtf lol)

And another time I had some good stuff, and was really h!gh right before I went to a family thing with my ex bestfriend. Her aunt that never met me asked me if I was from MO...cause of the way I was talking. And I was like "I've lived in MI mah whole laf"! God that was embarassing. haha!
(I probably shouldn't post this! ha...and I may need to edit this out)

But anyway!!! when I was younger I could belt...and hit high notes...and I didn't really have vabrado. But now that I'm older and don't sing anymore, who knows.

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posted September 20, 2011 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awh...no one wants to do a voice clip D: i am sad T_T.
ANyway!!!
stawr my god lol
i wonder if yu and my friend have like the same birthday or something but i get the feeling that yur older than me so i dunno. hmm gaga is aries sun scorp moon but pisces merc.
Also i read from Linda that aries weren't the best pop stars and actually most of the prominent ones are aries! Aries are eeeeverywhere. @_@ Makes me feel a little bad that not many capricorn's are prominent figures in the entertaining world T_T. At least we had Elvis! (and Jesus :P only technically, of course).
Then again i was in a voice class for fun at school and all the good singers (cream of the crap) in the class were capricorn!!! i thot that was weeeird but also one of worst was a cap. the two best singers with actually nice talent were a Cap male and Libra male. lol. And all the cap's stood out in class too. (unless im just biased).
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posted September 21, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born in 1990. lol
I so became fully legal this year. haha

Well lets see who can I think of who's famous and is a Cappy....
Dolly Parton
and Marilyn Manson....I think.

and they aren't exactly pop music

Mariah Carey is an Aries...but I find her to be boring. Yes she sings good...but she is not my thing.
Oh yeah....and Fergie...booo! I think her music stinks...and so does the black eye peas
(the only song I find good is "lets get it started-ed ah lets get it started in here!")
Other than that, I just think their music is stupid, annoying, and over played!!

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posted September 21, 2011 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was researching math skills for britterfly's thread and I bumped into this:


According to astrology it is noticed that whether such talent lies in the native or not. Singing is an art and such talent automatically flourish to the person concerned for establishment in
life.

Factors influencing singing talent:

* Moon: deep feeling and emotions
* Venus: love for music
* 2nd house/5th house: significator of singing talent
* 3rd house: vocal capabilities
* 10th house: indicates reputation of the native
* 11th house: success and achievements of life.

Different astrological combinations for a good singer:

* Those who are familiar singers have Moon and Venus either in 2nd, 5th, and 10th house, own house, exaltation etc, otherwise they cannot become a singer at all.
* The 2nd house rules speech, if placement or lordship of ascendant and 2nd house is benefice in nature the native will be a great singer.
* 2nd house in an airy sign indicates vocalist.
* If in a horoscope 2nd house is strong and Venus is related to 10th house, indicates singing profession.
* 3rd house indicates quality of voice, so benefice planets placed in 3rd house/ascendant or theirs lords are benefice in nature indicates excellent singing skills.
* Taurus as the lord of ascendant indicates natural inclination for singing.
* Venus placed in 3rd house, benefice planet/s placed in 2nd house and if lord of 3rd house is a benefice planet and posited in 4th house indicates a very successful singer who will get a huge name and fame due to his singing talent.
* In Virgo ascendant, if Mercury is placed in it owns sign/ ascendant; Venus is placed in 2nd/9th house; Mars placed in 3rd house or aspects the 3rd house indicates an enormously successful singing profession.
* In Cancer ascendant if Moon is strong and Sun and Mercury combined in 2nd or 3rd house the native will be a famous singer.
* In Libra ascendant strong Venus placed in ascendant indicates success in singing line, if Jupiter and Mars are also favourably placed in this ascendant indicates huge fame and money received from this profession.
* In Pisces ascendant, if Jupiter is favourable; a benefice planet / Mars placed in 2nd house and Venus is also favourably placed indicates a successful singer.

BY

GEETA JHA SPIRITUAL HEALER
http://geetajha.articlesbase.com/astrology-articles/singing-talent-in-astrology-4907694.html

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posted September 23, 2011 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stawr:
I was born in 1990. lol
I so became fully legal this year. haha

Well lets see who can I think of who's famous and is a Cappy....
Dolly Parton
and Marilyn Manson....I think.

and they aren't exactly pop music

Mariah Carey is an Aries...but I find her to be boring. Yes she sings good...but she is not my thing.
Oh yeah....and Fergie...booo! I think her music stinks...and so does the black eye peas
(the only song I find good is "lets get it started-ed ah lets get it started in here!")
Other than that, I just think their music is stupid, annoying, and over played!!


Ahhh ya my friend too is '90 yu guys must share similar planets hmm! and yu know what i noticed is the aries i know tend not to like other aries celebs. None of the aries i know like Lady Gaga. and i mean im sure lotsa ppl dont so that cant be too accurate haha but i was reminded of that since yu didnt like MC and fergie haha I like gaga mariah fergie all of them...cept celine dion lol and yessss Marilyn Manson is cap!!!haha when i found that out i was shocked for a moment but he seems really withdrawn and low-key kinda capricorn-esque. oh and Selena the latina singer is aries! I know an aries girl at school who has the same bday as her.

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posted September 23, 2011 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh thanks maira! although im a bit unclear on some of the things yu said but i sorta get it

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