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Topic: Fate?
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Ceridwen
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posted September 24, 2011 07:07 AM
  
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Originally posted by Lonake:
believe that the free will that everyone chooses is predestined so it's sort of a trick that's played on us
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 24, 2011 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I think that BelligerentPygmy makes a lot of good points. Astrology, to me, is like a map of the world. Where you go using that map and how you get there is completely up to you. I would also say that sometimes people who do end up together aren't necessarily *happy* together. People stay in toxic relationships all of the time. Before divorce was more socially accepted and common, people in bad relationships had little or no possibility of escape. So, being together isn't necessarily a good thing. I'd also say that sometimes, even though it doesn't seem like it initially, what you want is the worst thing for you. I recall a few wishes that I had and, after I learned a few things, I count my lucky stars and am so incredibly thankful that things didn't work out. I would have been miserable if they had.
Great post. There's a Taurus guy in my past that if I had ended up with him...*insert horror music here*. Verbally abusive in a lot of ways, just all-around not really a good guy - at least when it comes to how he conducts himself in his romantic relationships. After being insulted by him one time too many, I went, "What am I doing here? He doesn't want me or give a **** about me." I took off. To my complete and total surprise later he appeared to be really torn up about it, which totally confused me considering how he treated me when I was around. I eventually started hovering around him again but it's right around that point that he skipped out with some random chick he'd just recently met, married her quick and knocked her up as fast as humanly possible. At the time I was extremely upset but later I remembered how he treated me and didn't feel like it was the gaping loss it felt like at the time. Also in the time since then a lot of really severe character flaws and personal issues he has have made themselves apparent.At this point I completely believe the universe knocked me out of the way of a bullet, basically. I have absolutely no doubts that his wife is going through absolute hell trying to deal with him. That's a position I wouldn't want to be in for all the world. Sometimes the universe is protecting you even though at the time you aren't aware of it and feel more like it's punishing you. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 24, 2011 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
[b] I don't think that's so, I don't think being meant for one another is a guarantee that you will get together at all, or even that if you did, it would last. There are no guarantees in this life, not even in astrology. What it means is just that you're right for one another, period. Whether or not you do anything with that or whether it works out in the end is all up in the air and depends on the decisions and choices those two people make.
I think they're soul mates and it's a contract they make to meet up somehow, for whatever reason. Being a soul mate doesn't always mean hearts and flowers, it could be a really neg experience. quote:
Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I recall a few wishes that I had and, after I learned a few things, I count my lucky stars and am so incredibly thankful that things didn't work out. I would have been miserable if they had.
Exactly. Be careful what you wish for, kiddies (!)  [/B][/QUOTE]
What about all the people who never meet a soulmate or their twin soul? Actually crossing paths with one is incredibly rare. I believe I've met my twin soul (and yeah, just like you say, it went really bad and didn't work out), and I'm sure I've also bumped into a couple soulmates, but I'm fully aware that that isn't a typical phenomenon and that, according to most people, I've been extraordinarily lucky.
Although, honestly it feels more like a curse when you meet your twin soul and things get ugly and don't work out. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 24, 2011 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Libreo:
What if two soulmates want to be together but one of them...for various reasons can't get past their stubborn pride? What should the other do? Just wait?
NO. Never put your life on hold for another person, move on. If something happens down the line with them, great. If not, at least you won't have wasted your life and years you could've been happy with someone else, waiting on them. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 24, 2011 09:07 AM
I second that. Never put your life on hold for anybody else (I did that once - not a good idea).Actually what if by living your life, walking your path you are going to meet your soulmate? Or the one you love and who loves you back? And if you keep standing still on the same place, you can never reach that "meeting point".
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fenia
Knowflake Posts: 48
From: athens greece
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 24, 2011 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by fireopal:
I think if you focus on the seperating factors e.g he lives here she lives there, he does this she does that...or anything that will make your head mush and think WOW that mountain is massive....then that's gonna put up a block for sure. I do believe that life will ensure a way for the two people to come together beyond and above all limiting or challenging circumstances.
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Lonake
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posted September 25, 2011 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually what if by living your life, walking your path you are going to meet your soulmate? Or the one you love and who loves you back? And if you keep standing still on the same place, you can never reach that "meeting point".
Exactly. Just walk your own lil path.. . . BP, I don't see soul mates being the same as twin souls, imo soul mates are everywhere but the twin is different and I think a lot of people mistake the 2. IP: Logged |
abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 1044
From: India
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 25, 2011 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
It's a funny concept.
I believe in free will but I also believe that the free will that everyone chooses is predestined so it's sort of a trick that's played on us But that's just me. I think before you're born you choose your life, who your parents will be, etc. but when you're here you forget the course you mapped out and think you're playing it by ear. I think deja vu is the bits and pieces of your memory coming back from when you mapped out your life. I feel like life on Earth is some weird experiment or some kind of crazy boot camp. And I think it's short for a reason.
Ditto!!
"but when it comes to interfering with another persons will, I don't quite know what to do."
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If you think you must pursue and actually want to do it too. DO IT. It doesnt matter whether its going against his choice. May be he wants you to pursue. Just give it a try. If he really really doesnt want it you will know then. Secondly, you will always feel you did your best and saw the situation through and through. Didnt leave anything unturned. So you would have finished that situation 100%. That helps us to move on with a clean slate and we gradually get over it with time. IP: Logged |
amelia28
Knowflake Posts: 132
From: dumont, CO
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 25, 2011 01:58 AM
I think we have multiple soulmates but you end up in this lifetime with the soulmate that will teach you the most what you are here to learn. The other soulmates will therefore be in your life for shorter periods. I guess what I am saying is that based on my experience the most lasting relationships I have had are with people that enhance my growth a lot. When I meet a guy that makes me feel on top of the world and I make him feel on top of the world it doesn't last but we stay friends after it ends and the connection never dies. Maybe is bc they cannot teach me what I am here to learn and until I learn what I need to learn we cannot be together. This is what I have gathered so far in my 28 years of experience. It remains to be seen if I will still think this way 10 years from now. I can have new experiences that will change how I view this in the coming years but this is what I have gathered so far. IP: Logged |
amelia28
Knowflake Posts: 132
From: dumont, CO
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 25, 2011 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Libreo:
So much to contemplate. All I know for sure is that it was good, the love was real, the ending was sudden and the pain is long lasting and almost to the point where it's unbearable. So if it wasn't meant to be then why did it even happen in the first place? I have racked my brain but I can't even think of any lessons learnt. It was perfect right up until a stupid argument over nothing. We were going to get married. Now he's gone.
You sound exactly like me at 20 years of age. It took me 4 years to get over him but I did heal and let go and got over him  . How long ago did the relationship end? IP: Logged |
Libreo
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From: Australia
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 25, 2011 03:00 AM
Only a few months ago. Iv'e only ever had 2 major relationships in my life. Iv'e had several, but only 2 of them were major. And both of them had coincidences surrounding our births. The first was my ex husband, we found out 3 months into the relationship that in a far away town, middle of nowhere, my mother was the midwife at his birth. We met somewhere else altogether, in a pub, over a stool. And this guy, the one I posted about in this thread, we share a birthday, 21st October. The ending is recent but very profound, very deeply painful, just feels so 'wrong' in every way. We weren't meant to break up. I believe it. With venus in Sag I always move on so quickly, I have a real que serra serra type attitude to break ups, but not this time. I worked very hard at creating a reconciliation of at least friendship, and I did succeed, but he was very sexual in his behaviour and when I questioned what we were doing, and told him that I missed him he just said 'please can we not do this?' so I said "I can't do this, I love you too much to be hurt a second time." And he shut down all over again.IP: Logged | |
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