posted September 30, 2011 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by squirrel:
Well, you're right, it's actually quite muddy inside earth signs I'm Virgo btw, Taurus Moon.

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posted September 30, 2011 03:59 PM            

Haha, you guys have such random names. Sand and Squirrel.

I'm gonna make a new account and call it tree, or wall, or....leaf.

posted September 30, 2011 04:08 PM            

mel does have mars in scorpio merc in aries like me. maybe it's not the cap sun haha!

hmm.. i'm earth sun but water/scorpio dominant. maybe deep deep down hehe! can't really compare emotions with others some people are just more open with them but i still think water feels more openly.

It's kind of complicated

My parents would disown me

the pisces 5th reading really resonates with u huh?

Oh and if we're gonna talk about most messy and emotional sign....i definitely think
cancer is. Lol. Lindsay lohan, courtney love, jessica simpson are good examples. I agree with hippichick's description of us being paranoid, possesive, insecure, and crazy.

my sign has hitler. i think that's enough to beat out the others LOL!

posted September 30, 2011 07:46 PM            

i do know that i tend to be very soft, i guess, when im at home in a safe environment.. moon in leo conjunct venus in Cancer.

they oppose my mc.

plus i have a lot of neptune and a north node in pisces. jupiter also falls in my first house so i can be laughing with just about anything.

i can't say that i've known that many virgo's, either.. the select one's i have known, have bordered on being a lot like a capricorn so i stay the heck away from them because i have sun in fifth conjunct bml.

i can say that at least for myself, what i do try to be conscious of, is the person's overall wellbeing. i won't involve myself if i haven't gotten a feel for them.. in conversation, people drop certain clues and a lot of them are signs to something MUCH muchhhh deeper. so i pay very close attention to that.

back in the day, scorpio and virgo used to be the same sign.. til they were separated and libra was put right in the middle of the two.

there is a lot of scorpio tendencies within me, i guess.. i attribute it to my pluto, though.

i can read people very well.
i analyze very well.

if someone i feel might not be open or into the same things as i am in terms of it being spirituality, sex, astrology, art, music, etc.. i just really make sure i draw the line there.

otherwise, it's stupid.

virgo makes it a point to make sure they're getting involved with the right one because virgo does serve and the last thing virgo wants to do is serve someone who's going to just deplete them of all their energy or won't appreciate the helpful comments, advice, gestures, etc.

if so, i think the virgo can somehow manage to pull a very mental stunt where they can talk themselves out of all emotional feeling with anyone else and they will rationalize it with no end.

virgo must first serve themselves, before they can serve others; they know this very well as they're of no use to themselves or to somebody else if they're not at their best.

virgo won't allow someone to just randomly up and invade their space or their thoughts, mind, heart, whatever.. because once a person does (this should be advice for almost ANYONE out there!) there is a certain caution one must take because then things rub off.. and if ur not aware of what does rub off, tread softly.

one example i can give is how a person with an addiction tends to partner up with a healthy person who for some reason has had similar family conditioning.

the healthy person matches up with the addict and then the addict; in of course, a relationship.. will open up and then one way or another, the healthy then becomes the savior for the addict.. and they then see themselves responsible for their behavior and their health and every time the addict has a relapse, the other person starts to feel that they're the one to blame and easily so, the addict then begins to put their well being on the other person as well..

by the time that whole relationship might be over, that healthy person won't be the same.. they would've lost their footing, lost their sense of self and their relationship eventually becomes no longer about them but about the issues themselves.

i think virgo knows that.
virgo understands that.
because virgo spends a lot of time thinking
and a lot of that time, the thinking is related to themselves.

they're self critical.
they know themselves.
they know their thoughts inside and out.
through all of that, they know and understand other people.

where they lack, is in experience.

posted September 30, 2011 08:06 PM            

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I'm not bashing my lovely caps and virgos, i truly love you guys. I'm just trying to break this stereotype that earth signs are this balanced, mellow group of people who always treat everything rationally. Please. Each of you is just a water sign in disguise. You'll never admit it though, but it's okay. My earth sign friends have a lot of defenses up, especially to admitting when theyve been hurt. You act like you don't care, then go home and cry. I'm just trying to get you guys to freaking let go of the act. Gah.

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posted October 01, 2011 09:25 AM            

RAS seems like you are very intune to the Virgoan nature, know them better than they know theirselves, and I have learned much from your thread!

posted October 01, 2011 03:16 PM            

Ahhh I am really glad I'm not crazy! Virgos online keep saying.."nope that's not me. I'm pretty rational and stable. I keep the people out of my life who don't belong there, etc." But that is so not my experience with virgos or earth signs for that matter. But, i know it's hard for u guys to admit weakness, i guess. This thread has been enlightening for me, too, hippichick! Thank you I am glad to see people agreeing with what i've felt all along. And once, on this forum, a virgo girl came on talking about how she had this huge crush on a cancer boy and they were playing the hesitation game that shy people play...and i told her about how that always happens to me every time i crush on a virgo! And she told me how amazing it is that water signs cause her to FEEL, and it's like she feels inspired to let go and show more weakness because of us. I really liked that

posted October 01, 2011 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Oh and if we're gonna talk about most messy and emotional sign....i definitely think
cancer is. Lol. Lindsay lohan, courtney love, jessica simpson are good examples. I agree with hippichick's description of us being paranoid, possesive, insecure, and crazy.

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My sister is a CANCER with moon in SCORPIO and VENUS in CANCER and mars in VIRGO and she has never married bc every single guy she has dated and gotten involved in a serious relationship which are quite a lot since she doesn't have problems attracting but ends up dumping all of them at some point bc she ends up finding something terribly wrong with them and nobody else sees it, not me or our family or her friends so everyone has assumed she is a bit paranoid. part of me thinks she is probably right 50% of the time about the guys she dates and the other 50% is paranoia which is sad bc she self sabotages her desperate desire to get married. A lot of this guys she later ends up finding out are married with family. my sis is not messy but she is paranoid and i have to ask how come are cancers paranoid?

posted October 01, 2011 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Amelia, I can totally relate to your the cancer woman you mentioned. I'm like that, too. The thing is cancer is very dedicated and passionate. They make their significant other the center of their world, so they expect the same kind of dedication from the ones they love, and if they don't get that then they feel there is no possible way they could actually care. Cancer wants an intimate relationship desperately, but we aren't like libras--we want one that is real and truly fulfilling. We will not be in a relationship where we don't feel we're given the 100% we deserve, and where the other person is giving as much as we are. We teach that love is dedication, and have to learn that love is freedom. So, that's why. Most people don't want to make someone the center of their lives, so i guess that's where the problem is? Shrugs. Maybe you could enlighten me...

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posted October 02, 2011 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
So, like, what is the reason she gives for breaking up with each guy?

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posted October 02, 2011 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
o..kay? Very confused. But, okay, lol.

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Confused? why? Don't be. You helped me understand cancers better which helped me understand my sister better and I appreciate that. Hopefully you can understand virgos better with my input:

posted October 02, 2011 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I wonder if having ignored him will lessen his trust in me. I do plan on eventually telling him why i was ignoring him. I think it's very important that he knows. I know that he likes me because the first time i ever talke to him he approached me really nervously with this huge sparkle in his eyes, and we talked for a bit, but then i had to go to class. I wasnt ignoring him then. It was when i saw him a year later on campus and he stood there with this extreme nervousness and sadness and that's when i knew for sure he liked me, and something had happened that my mom had basically told me she would be extremely disappointed if i brought a black guy home and so i was sared and ignored him. I saw him the next day also, and there he was, right in front of everyone, just standing there awkwardly in the middle of the way, staring at me nervously like that again. It was hilarious tho bc this black girl noticed him and she shot me this knowing look as if saying "mm--hmm. Damn you. Stealing my fine black men, I see. It's obvious he likes you." and again i ignored him and felt so bad . Then the next day saw him again...and he basically gave me a "i'm confused, but hey i can play this game too" look and hung out in a group with a bunch of girls. Lol. Then the next time i saw him was when he walked up to me but i noticed he wasnt making eye contact, because if he did he would get all nervous again i'm guessing. Then the next time i saw him, he saw i was there but his friends were there and i was talking to my friend, and i kind of ignored him out of shyness this time. . Gosh i suck. Lol. He seemed mad and left the room. Then we were both at the same show, again he left the room during breaks, but while the show was going on, i tried to give him looks of sadness from across the auditorium, and he noticed but seemed confused.

It sucks to be ignored back. Pretty sure he thinks i'm playing games, and i hope my friend talking to him will fix everything.

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posted October 02, 2011 09:06 PM            

I was just confused about why she wouldn't want anyone to know why she didn't like the guys she went out with. I can tell you why i didn't like the guys who've liked me...two were in their party stage in college just trying to get laid with girls..and i could see they cared about me and it wasnt just about that with me but i was scared, one wanted to be a cop and was really weird and had a very dominating tone to his voice..i don't want to marry someone who might die and i also wouldnt want my children to be around someone who i love but who is so....serious and dominating all the time..life would suck around someone like that, a bunch of other guys just seemed like complete idiots...lol etc etc

The one i did go out with...he played classical piano just like i do, plus he played violin --both like a pro, he was quiet and shy and seemed like a good sweet guy, he did everything his parents would tell him just like i would, he was emotional and would worry just like i would. It seemed we would understand each other (we did, we got close very quickly). But he was 4 years younger than me, and he was so shy he wasn't ready for a relationship. He wouldn't even stand up to his brother bullying him all the time. So yeah. He had to go to college really far away so he broke up with me...and also he did it right after we kissed and he showed an expression of extreme fear lmao...so i think that's also mainly why haha.

This guy, the black guy...he wants to be a rapper...lmao. But he works hard at school, gets amazing grades...he's poor but i have a feeling he is very responsible so he should get far. I'm guessing the rap thing was just a high school fantasy or something he did for fun for a while, and now he's tackling the books cuz he realizes the rap thing isn't as easy as he thought. They call him a pushover, too nice for his own good. which he is. he's a sweetheart

Just like i like 'em.