posted October 01, 2011 02:44 AM            

so a break up is more or less saying bye to a side of yourself and i do see it as a betrayal, too.

i might be speaking for myself, but through thick and thin... i don't even necessarily need the vows.. a break up is like a 'let-down'.. not 'like', it is, actually.. and that makes the other person frail in my eyes and no different than anyone else..

whether they were serious or not, i lose complete respect for them. forever.

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(this tends to be where scorpio and i clash, because scorpio's test.. and a taurus will pass the test, always.. but it'll know what's up. just because of the doubt; the test itself, will make us lose complete interest.. i digress)

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i see them then as weak.
frail.
unreliable.
and not even worthy of my time.
if there ever was a time where a relationship
came under sensitive situations
and the person bailed
or wanted to, without even trying to stick it out
nothing in the world would convince me that i should stick myself out for them.

i'd do it for anyone who's there for me

posted October 01, 2011 07:15 AM            

if there was not much love to begin with, it is easier to walk away.

posted October 02, 2011 12:51 PM            

However, if you were to restrict my choice to Ascendant signs,I would say PISCES which is the antiscion of LIBRA, and therefore reacts strongly to all Libran matters. Being the oldest and wisest of the signs, only Pisces truly perceives the tragedy of the failure to share happiness with a significant other.

To evaluate this relationship, the plus side is shown by a trine between the Ascendant signs showing the parties involved move in the same circles and travel a similar path in life. And the Moon signs are also trine in Fire bringing warmth and spirit in their intimacy. And the trine in earth and sextile in fire between your Venus and Mars cross-aspects makes this primarily a sexual relationship.

However, on the minus side, there are many obstacles to smooth-sailing in this relationship. Most relationships with the same Sun sign are likely to wreck on ego issues and self-righteous behaviours. Only Virgo Suns seem to be able to get along because they are so particular in whom they are prepared to take up with. And though your Mercurys share the same sign and therefore communicate well in general, Scorpio is a mute sign and hides many secrets, which gradually builds up suspicions perhaps to the point of paranoia.

But the great weakness in this relationship is you have two very weak Mars'. Your Mars in Taurus can be a terrible bully when you do not get your own way. But his Mars is in Libra which is even worse as it is very unstable in this sign. You can be chatting pleasantly one minute and the next he will be ranting and raving accusations at you for not holding up your end of the relationship and trying to assign you with all the blame for whatever has gone wrong recently. Mars in Libra is famous for simply going ballistic for no good reason.

And your Venus' are square by sign and so you have great difficulty agreeing to a compromise and maintaining a balanced relationship - a shared balance of give and take.

You have to understand that this man though primarily wanting to be a family man, has his ruler the Moon in Aries making him self-centred and easily irritated. And the opposition to Uranus and Pluto exaggerates the tendency to suddenly trample on a relationship and just walk away. He gets so worked up and hot-headed he needs time alone on the road to think things out by himself and relax away from the irritations that socialising exposes him to.

On the other hand, your ruler Jupiter in Aquarius is much friendlier and also sextile to your Venus easy-going. And the oppostion to the Moon in Leo, you prefer company to talk things out when straightening out messes.

This relationship could never survive while he insists on going off on his own perhaps for days in order to regain his composure. Which never lasts for long with Mars in Libra. I have to say that with his Jupiter in Capricorn you are dealing with a very traditional sexist man who must be master of this relationship as he will not play second fiddle to a mere woman.

Yet he needs a helpmate in life to guide him in better business practices as he constantly worries about the lack of money he needs to raise his family.

You need to keep in mind as well that your Saturn in Cancer is either in his 1st house which would feel like a burden or extra responsibility he has to carry. Or in his 12th house of psychological troubles that may be depressing him.

I would blame the current transit of Saturn in Libra for the breakup, I think. For Saturn always puts a great strain on your future when it passes over your Sun. And transiting Mars has just finished going through Cancer, setting him off like clockwork.

In either case, this man has an astrological signature of Mars in Libra square to Jupiter in Capricorn which I believe will ruin most of his relationships as he does over-dramatise his troubles. This aspect also likes to take risks and may even gamble away his assets.

posted October 02, 2011 01:27 PM              

I agree with whoever said the Venus sign is more indicative than rising sign. Venus is how we relate after all, particularly in love relationships. Aspects to Venus would also come into play. For example, a fixed Venus in conjunction with Uranus would be loyal in a relationship, but once the partner does something to offend their value system, all the feelings would be gone with a bang.

posted October 02, 2011 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Libreo:
Judging from rising signs alone, who do you think would suffer the most pain and take the longest to get over a break up....Pisces or Cancer?

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posted October 02, 2011 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Libreo:
Acrux....you may as well have painted a portrait of the guys face! Un - believe - able!!! I have no words you were dead on the mark with absolutely everything. And my Mars in Taurus being a bully when I don't get my own way...yes! I had always thought that was my Leo moon doing that. Very interesting. Thankyou so very much for the insights and clarification. Things make sense to me now. And at the end of the day that was all I really needed, for it to make some sense!
Mertserimer, I rarely fall in love either, sometimes I wish I would when I'm with a good guy, but it's very very rare, and usually, like you, it takes me 20 seconds to move on. This is the first time in my 38 years that it hasn't taken 20 seconds. Wer'e up to 3 months now. :-(

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posted October 02, 2011 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i'll side with scorpio's here as i feel that a break up is a break of a bond.. it's much more than that it's literally a parting of sooooooooo much.. i think that once you've been intimate with a person, you guys shared something that u don't just share with anyone and it stays with you and a part of you that no one else gets to see, they keep forever..

so a break up is more or less saying bye to a side of yourself and i do see it as a betrayal, too.

i might be speaking for myself, but through thick and thin... i don't even necessarily need the vows.. a break up is like a 'let-down'.. not 'like', it is, actually.. and that makes the other person frail in my eyes and no different than anyone else..

whether they were serious or not, i lose complete respect for them. forever.

i see them then as weak.
frail.
unreliable.
and not even worthy of my time.
if there ever was a time where a relationship
came under sensitive situations
and the person bailed
or wanted to, without even trying to stick it out
nothing in the world would convince me that i should stick myself out for them.

i'd do it for anyone who's there for me

but something like that,
really shows me that they think it's them for themselves
and i'll see it that way as well
it'll from then on be me for myself.

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