posted October 09, 2011 12:35 PM            

I never understand when someone says that Capricirn just takes time to open up to you and trust you. Okay, but why build a wall around yourself?! That is just going to push everyone away and hurt you more. Why should others have to work really hard for you to open up? My best friend still hasnt opened up to me after all these years.

I'm not saying the caps i've met aren't fun. They are. They just have to learn to be more nurturing.

posted October 09, 2011 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by britterfly:
Because Aquarius is the sign graduated from Capricorn, I believe, from personal experience, that Capricorns need to learn how to cut loose and be more carefree from Aquarius. Stop caring what other people think so much. Let your freak flag fly, at least a little. I think all the signs have something to learn from the sign after them. Pisces can teach Aquarius how to feel more and not be so objective in every situation. Aries can teach Pisces to not be so sensitive and wishy washy and to make a move already! Etc, etc.

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posted October 09, 2011 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

My best friend still hasnt opened up to me after all these years.

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posted October 09, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I never understand when someone says that Capricirn just takes time to open up to you and trust you. Okay, but why build a wall around yourself?! That is just going to push everyone away and hurt you more. Why should others have to work really hard for you to open up? My best friend still hasnt opened up to me after all these years.

I'm not saying the caps i've met aren't fun. They are. They just have to learn to be more nurturing.

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Earth requires process, we don't just wake up to islands and mountains. They happen over time, or catastrophic events and even after catastrophe, must have time to settle. Just as matter is made of small systems comprised of even smaller systems, Earth signs must sense, formulate, refine, and conclude before they can produce. As a cardinal sign, Capricorn is the aspect of earth which builds form. It is her nature to take an idea and attempt to actualize it (not express, communicate, or emotionalize it).

My aunt and Grandfather were very nurturing, but they showed their nurturing by providing examples of their love. My grandfather always worked hard so we could have a big family gathering on the holidays. He took time to sit each of us on his lap throughout the day and made sure we all felt loved and accepted (there were a LOT of grandkids). My aunt works hard to maintain our family traditions, to honor my grandparents and to make sure we all stay in touch. If it weren't for her, my family would all go its separate ways. Whenever we speak, she always genuinely cares about what is going on with me and how I am progressing in my life. Both my Grandfather and Aunt nurture by "providing in order to express their love", both Capricorns expressed their true selves through their integrity. Of course each Capricorn is different, but most I have met consider what they are doing, to express who they are.

One thing I would ask Cancer, because Cancer is very particular about their interactions with others. Is it possible Cancer can insist on the Capricorn being nurturing in Cancer's way, as opposed to taking the time to learn Capricorn's language and discover their way of nurturing. That's the thing about opposed signs, they are two opposing functions concerning the same problem. In order to synthesize they have to learn each other's language. Cancer invites you into their home in order to show nurturing. Capricorn builds you a home next door so you feel part of the neighborhood, but can still do all your kinky crap in private. This way nobody has to get offended by disrespecting the other's house etiquette or outstaying their welcome. Building personal structures that last are Capricorn's way of saying, "if I didn't like you, I wouldn't be here working on our friendship".

Ask a Cancer, "how do you feel?" and if the Cancer is sad, she may cry. Ask a Capricorn the same question and if they know it is an important question to you, they will attempt to describe their feelings. Cancer cries because she is exposing herself to someone she trusts, Capricorn describes in order to best express what she is feeling (which is her way of exposing her self).

posted October 10, 2011 12:29 AM            

I had a cappy co-worker once that wrapped her tree around a pole, and had no way to get to work.
She lived a few blocks away, and ever though we worked together, we didn't "know" each other that way.
Something told me to offer her a ride.
So, I did.
At first she said no, but then after about a week of taking cabs and using all her tip money, she changed her mind.

She paid me every day for gas, even though what she paid me was far over what I used.
But it took that one WHOLE year of drives to and fro for me to really get inside that girl.
Now you couldn't break the bond between us if you tried.
IDK if it's a matter of I proved myself and now I have a loyal friend for life,
or if it's a matter of the fact that she responded to someone who genuinely cared and reached out?? I'm not sure. But, I'm glad to have her, she has my back ALWAYS.

Far as the emotions thing...
Here is another story for ya,
I shared it somewhere else and got feedback, so maybe cappy people here will be able to relate.
As I said, my hubby is a cap.
He is NOT effusive with his words.
He is not affectionate.
I mean, he kisses hello and goodbye, and now and then takes my hand, but by no means is he the hanging on you type.
He shows his love BY HIS ACTIONS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, and when we were apart, and I had someone who showed them by words, but yet, they were not there to be my "rock" when times were testy, I sure did change my values! I guess it depends on what you are after.

Anyway, years ago, we got our first video camera, and I was so amazed by the damn thing, lol. I would video.. everything, cos it amused me so much.
I would video myself playing with the dogs and my birds.
I even videoed myself making the socks talk in different voices (like puppets) when I was doing the laundry.
When my hubs would come home, I would show him, and he would roll his eyes at me.
Never did he say they were cute, or amusing, he didn't say anything.

Then, about 3 years or so ago, I got SUPER sick and went to the hospital in the ambulance. I was gone a week, and then I came home.
Once home I was on heavy meds, and I think I was semi-conscious for about 3 days.
One night, I heard a very familiar sound coming from downstairs, so I went down to have a look.
My Cap was asleep on the couch to a video of me talking to my dog.
THAT IS NOT AN EMOTIONLESS PERSON, lol.
I covered him up and went upstairs.

In the morning the tape was gone, and he never mentioned it, and neither did I.
Having the icy rings of Saturn binding you cannot be easy.
EVen my Cappy girlfriends say it's awfully hard, and emotions are "supposed" to be more easily accessible to women.

posted October 10, 2011 06:08 AM            

Cappies are all about being practical. Instead of throwing a pity party, they focus on solving the problem at hand. They nurture others by helping them gain clarity on their problems or stepping in to help someone with their problems who they feel is just too overwhelmed.

posted October 10, 2011 12:22 PM            

He'd even cheated in college because he was more concerned with appearances than actually doing something decent. We became friends through other people but our friendship was very superficial. He wasn't a bad person just only concerned with his own self interests and agenda. I could tell he enjoyed the social circles and the status connected to being friends with me. I'm a Libra and I knew many people. I wasn't friends with them I just knew them and I think he as well as another Cappy friend I had enjoyed the benefits my connections afforded them. Every time they met somebody they'd say so and so said they knew you, and would go on about how I knew everybody. I've noticed Cappy's depending on their astrological makeup have trouble keeping friends. It got to the point where I couldn't take it anymore and I cut off friendships with both of them. They would never do anything because it was the good thing to do, it always had to make them money or elevate their status, it was never selfless. Two of the most selfish people I've ever known were Capricorns and a Taurus. No offense to earth signs, I value all people but we just don't mesh.

posted October 10, 2011 12:53 PM            

But well i wouldnt say most of them are cheaters. I think most caps go through a transformation where they realize that they have to own up to their responsibilities instead of complaining about everything, and then that's. When they become more empowered. But that's how i feel they generally are before the transformation lol---irresponsible, lazy, depressed, and always complaining. But i wouldnt call them all cheaters either.

Anyway, i do get what you're saying. It's annoying how they're always trying to be cool and fit in. But a libra can be like that, not in a status sort of way, but in a coolness level sort of way. I've met libras who were very judgemental of whoever was too "uncool" or didnt behave according to their strict standards.

posted October 10, 2011 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
That's definitely not all capricorns, but I agree that the majority are too concerned with status and what people will think! They never want to take a low status job because then they'll feel like they're low in society. It's pathetic.

But well i wouldnt say most of them are cheaters. I think most caps go through a transformation where they realize that they have to own up to their responsibilities instead of complaining about everything, and then that's. When they become more empowered. But that's how i feel they generally are before the transformation lol---irresponsible, lazy, depressed, and always complaining. But i wouldnt call them all cheaters either.

Anyway, i do get what you're saying. It's annoying how they're always trying to be cool and fit in. But a libra can be like that, not in a status sort of way, but in a coolness level sort of way. I've met libras who were very judgemental of whoever was too "uncool" or didnt behave according to their strict standards.

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It was not so much that they were trying to be cool but that in my experience they had an elitist entitlement about them. They were both obsessed with designer labels. It had nothing to do with quality it was all about appearances. Quality is quality and I respect that, I invest in quality, but quality that's functional and actually has a purpose. Not just so you can tell people the brand name even though you have absolutely no use for it. I mean we're destroying the environment with materialistic consumption the least we could do is make use of what we're consuming. They also wrote people off quickly not giving them a fair chance because they had nothing to offer. Which is probably why they had trouble making and keeping friends. I'm just giving you my experience with them.

posted October 10, 2011 04:01 PM            

Not in the status conscious way like caps, but i guess more in a popularity way.

posted October 10, 2011 09:54 PM            

i like how astra describe the caring bit. im not too touchy feely but if someone needs help i am there through thick and thin.

if youre curious my chart is: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7296/astro2gw01me6782323265.gif

posted October 10, 2011 11:05 PM            

RunAroundScreaming,
I was going to point out about your friend what someone else said,
that a Cap isn't going to respond the way you are seeking.
Just like my Cap girlfriend.
I don't go to her for sympathy.
Not saying she doesn't FEEL it, but she can't convey it, so we just don't go there, that way she doesn't feel frustrated and I don't feel let down.

One time when I was being stalked by this weird guy at work, I was telling her about it .. just in a conversational way,
and just so happen not ten minutes later,
he called on the work line.
She answered it, and when she found out it was him, she let loose with some verbage I did not know existed, and in such a tone
that he never called me again, let alone CAME into the place.
So, what I am saying is that they show they care in other ways, more by actions then words.

posted October 10, 2011 11:17 PM            

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if I have a friend who is struggling in a math class, I'm not the type to give them a hug and tell them not to worry. What I do is I ask them what they find confusing about the subject and I'll sit with them and explain the material to them until they completely understand. If they're getting picked on, I'll step up to defend them. If they need a ride somewhere, I'll drive them myself. If they're hungry and have no money, I'll buy them food or cook them something they like.

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I also have Cap Moon & I'm the same.

posted October 11, 2011 12:50 AM            

If someone is having trouble with biology homework.I can emphasize, because I have trouble with math homework and I tell them not to be so hard on themselves and then I help them.

Then again..I have the two biggest sappiest service signs in my top 3 (Virgo Sun/Pisces Moon)..

Meh.._V_

And an end note Capricorns..remind me of Cancer traits. I rarely meet Cancers, but the traits I've read about Cancers match most of the Capricorns I know.

posted October 14, 2011 09:08 AM            

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