posted October 31, 2011 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
I agree with what these people said.

I can actually relate to you Lindisfarne, because, especially when I was younger, I used to laugh very inappropriately. Now, the thing about me is that I have LOTS of earth and fire, and very little air. However, I do have three planets in the first house, and my Moon in Aries, so I think that contributed. I also have a strong Uranus.

As for you, I think that it's a combination of being surrounded by water sign influenced people (they've taught me A LOT), being a fixed sign, having several planets in the first, 8th house Jupiter, AND being heavily air influenced. It's kind of like an 'all of the above' type of scenario.

Laughter can definitely be a defense mechanism that distances you from having to FEEL and deal with strong emotions. I know that I often don't even realize when I'm doing it on a conscious level. I just start laughing in a bad situation (I laugh when I feel like things just can't get any worse). This might come across as rude and insensitive, when in reality, it is a way to cope with strong emotions.

Also, I read somewhere that, from a biological/psychological level, the reason that we laugh is because we see/hear something that could potentially be fatal/harmful to us but then the 'danger is avoided' and this is why laughter occurs (they always used to say in my theatre class that the only difference between a tragedy and a comedy is that, in a comedy, the danger is avoided). Perhaps on a biological/unconscious level, your laughter at your sister's situation is because you see the inequality of harmfulness in the situation (you avoided it, and she doesn't- due to poor health) AND ALSO you have strong emotions about your sister's health.

I really don't know how it is for you, but for me, I've had to learn over the years to consider the impact of my words and actions on others. Can laughter be misconstrued into insensitivity? Absolutely. For this reason, communication IS very important to express to others that you aren't actively trying to HURT them.

Water signs are truly the best teachers in this. I've learned how to gauge the insensitivity level based on their reactions and that's when I take a step back and try to figure out how to balance my words/actions.

Anyway, I wish you luck, and I hope that you are able to work things out with the people around you.

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Oh. I don't have strong emotions for her health. I kind of don't care. I do care, but.. they aren't strong. Who knows, maybe I'm just detached from it all so I can't realistically tell you that I have strong emotions when I honestly don't associate myself as having those strong emotions about her health.

Interesting insight on the trgaedy comedic bit. I find that to be quite insightful and who knows it might apply to my situation...

posted November 01, 2011 01:36 AM            

The Aqua/Cancer guy I mentioned is like that too. He doesn't understand or care about how his TONE of voice makes other people feel. Your Aqua-ness explains why everyone thinks you don't care about your Cancer boyfriend. Girl, you're fine. I get you! Lol. Even down to your Venus in Pisces... Aqua/Cancer guy has that too lol.

I think though that the Pisces placements (really only the first five planets matter when talking about personality traits. the other planets -Jupiter and onward- matter when talking aspects, house placements but are otherwise generational) add an extra harshness to your already detached personality. You'll learn and cultivate and sculpt it over time (god willing) but every Pisces I've ever meant has been blunt and hurt my feelings but they either don't care it does, or don't know. I imagine you have some psychic tendencies too. You probably guard against getting taken advantage of a lot, don't you?

As for the finding inappropriate things funny ... I'm totally that way. I would find the folder width thing funny but now that I'm a little bit wiser I'd keep it to myself. ESP. since your sis is a Pisces! They get butthurt really easy. I have Gem rising, Jupiter in Gemini (so my sense of humor is esp. quirky, witty, sarcastic... basically it's better than any signs sense of humor lol. Just kidding. Or am I?) and Mars in Gemini. I think that's why I have water signs as best friend 'cause I had to learn empathy and compassion. I'm like you in the sense I understand at a mathematical level why something would hurt your feelings (well, if you point it out to me) but emotionally little things like the folder width wouldn't even phase me. I'd probably laugh too... and serial killer movies are cheesy...

I think Aquarians are uncomfortable with true grit emotion though. My dad's an Aqua with a Capricorn moon and Scorp ASC, whenever my mom would make me cry it'd make my dad feel bad and he'd always tell me "What are you crying for? Don't cry." He hated to see his wittle girl upset like that. Best dad ever though, seriously.

Looking over your first six-ish planets, you've got a lot in your first house. So I imagine people find you hard to read or unpredictable a little bit. You obviously come off detached and uncaring and it's not that you aren't, your caring just expands beyond personal relationships and more into "End world wide hunger" type of deal. You care about the masses, not the individuals is all and that would hurt a lot of people's feelings who didn't understand it. Esp. people not into self-exploration or too practical, five-senses - you know what I mean?

posted November 01, 2011 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by fiona:
[B]Gemini sun, pisces moon here. I can see why you found what happened at the doctor's funny. I think for us air signs we subconsciously laugh at situations to keep things from being too heavy or serious. Your pisces moon is also responsible for that. Sure pisces is sensitive, but it also knows no boundaries. Sometimes it has trouble differentiating right from wrong. To top that off, air and water don't mix well so the result is some kind of strange/inappropriate behavior every now and then. To me, your sister is over-reacting. But, I can also understand why she's upset.

Air and fire signs have the unfortunate (and undeserved) reputation of being insensitive.

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You're right Fiona we do, and unfortunately I have ALL Earth, Wind, and Fire chart.

My question is when are the Insensitives allowed to tell everyone to get over themselves? Honestly, if you can't find the humor in life then your life (in general, not you specifically ) is no fun.

posted November 01, 2011 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Oh my god, you make so much more sense to me now. No wonder you had no idea how you came off in my thread! I find Aquarians with water sign houses for some reason come off like bigger dicks than they mean to.

The Aqua/Cancer guy I mentioned is like that too. He doesn't understand or care about how his TONE of voice makes other people feel. Your Aqua-ness explains why everyone thinks you don't care about your Cancer boyfriend. Girl, you're fine. I get you! Lol. Even down to your Venus in Pisces... Aqua/Cancer guy has that too lol.

I think though that the Pisces placements (really only the first five planets matter when talking about personality traits. the other planets -Jupiter and onward- matter when talking aspects, house placements but are otherwise generational) add an extra harshness to your already detached personality. You'll learn and cultivate and sculpt it over time (god willing) but every Pisces I've ever meant has been blunt and hurt my feelings but they either don't care it does, or don't know. I imagine you have some psychic tendencies too. You probably guard against getting taken advantage of a lot, don't you?

As for the finding inappropriate things funny ... I'm totally that way. I would find the folder width thing funny but now that I'm a little bit wiser I'd keep it to myself. ESP. since your sis is a Pisces! They get butthurt really easy. I have Gem rising, Jupiter in Gemini (so my sense of humor is esp. quirky, witty, sarcastic... basically it's better than any signs sense of humor lol. Just kidding. Or am I?) and Mars in Gemini. I think that's why I have water signs as best friend 'cause I had to learn empathy and compassion. I'm like you in the sense I understand at a mathematical level why something would hurt your feelings (well, if you point it out to me) but emotionally little things like the folder width wouldn't even phase me. I'd probably laugh too... and serial killer movies are cheesy...

I think Aquarians are uncomfortable with true grit emotion though. My dad's an Aqua with a Capricorn moon and Scorp ASC, whenever my mom would make me cry it'd make my dad feel bad and he'd always tell me "What are you crying for? Don't cry." He hated to see his wittle girl upset like that. Best dad ever though, seriously.

Looking over your first six-ish planets, you've got a lot in your first house. So I imagine people find you hard to read or unpredictable a little bit. You obviously come off detached and uncaring and it's not that you aren't, your caring just expands beyond personal relationships and more into "End world wide hunger" type of deal. You care about the masses, not the individuals is all and that would hurt a lot of people's feelings who didn't understand it. Esp. people not into self-exploration or too practical, five-senses - you know what I mean?

It's not that your humor is inappropriate, it's your timing. Humor and timing HAVE to be in sync or goes all wrong. Your strong Pisces-moon intuition can help you feel out a situation so you know when to crack and joke and when not to. Anyway, yeah. Air signs are thinkers not feelers. I don't think it's that your inappropriate, it may just be your mind works faster than your heart does.

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i think you're the first sun in Aries woman I actually find pleasant to speak to. So far the ones in my life including my mother .. I won't even go there. so it's really nice to finally meet a Aries sun that I get along with on some level.

Yes, yes I am sorry for coming on too strong and coming off as a dick or a b****! haha I get that a lot from people "Woah do you know what you said? You sounded like such a cold ***** !" All the time my sister would give me that "look" you know the, "Wow.. cannot believe you said that." I often say "What do you mean? What's wrong with what I say!" I have a habit of saying very blunt things even though a lot of people think it they just never imagined it being said aloud, until I come along. but I'm not like pretentious and in your face, If that's what you're getting haha. Again I do apologize, it's something I'm working on. since it's a complain complaint. That I say things and it shocks or scares someone. I often truly do not understand the emotional reaction.

I hear mixed reviews about Pisces influenced people. I get "sensitive" or "they are ass*****!!"

I honestly don't know about the Psychic thing.. I mean I do "sense" specific things especially when giving advice.. and looking at my surroundings I can't help but feel things, and I often am always right about it specially when giving friends forewarnings about things but I turn it off because I can't rationalize it. The way I grew up I had to turn off that Piscean side of me.. that's why when I used to study my chart a lot I had Venus and moon in Pisces but the description never clicked with me, the "sensitivity". and the "Empathy" it never made sense. because I wasn't any of that.. I was too cold to be sensitive... too unfeeling of course the way I was raised those things weren't accepted so I had to turn to my mind to guide me. And that's why I suffer a bit with relationships and friendships because I observe the reactions and I delay my own reactions cause I have no idea what to do. Like when someone cries to me? I usually ignore them. It's not very nice but I don't understand what they want me to do. I don't hug many people cause it's just weird and too personal for me and if I do I make sure to put it out of my mind ASAP. Yes thats exactly why people think I don't care about my Cancer influence bf or my Pisces sister.. its hard to explain and sometimes I don't understand myself. I make an attempt to be a lot more empathetic and feeling if that makes sense. It's not an easy thing to do, uncomfortable is an understatement.

Is your dad a January born Aquarian or a Feburary born? I also don't exactly understand the influence of having placements in the first house. Does that just emphasize the energy on a personal level or..?

posted November 01, 2011 02:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Libreo:
My daughter is 90% water and always find innapropriate things funny. It's a real problem for her, The remaining 10% is fire.

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posted November 01, 2011 02:44 AM            

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Its hard to explain and sometimes I don't understand myself. I make an attempt to be a lot more empathetic and feeling if that makes sense. It's not an easy thing to do, uncomfortable is an understatement.

Is your dad a January born Aquarian or a Feburary born? I also don't exactly understand the influence of having placements in the first house. Does that just emphasize the energy on a personal level or..?

The best I can describe it is, if I ever allow myself to be guided with my emotions, I become erratic and a huge mess. Because I have never done it before, think of it in terms of someone learning to drive a car the first time, crashing everywhere. That's how I get and it's so embarsssing and uncomfortable I don't like the intensity I've allowed myself to face so i quickly shut it down. It's not good to suppress but for right now, it feels best.[/B]

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Glad to be at your service, lol. Dad's February born. I don't know many Jan. Aquas so I can't comment but the Feb. ones are always super nice once you understand they're not trying to hurt your feelings. In fact, Aquarians are very caring individuals (they have bleeding heart syndrome for people but express it in their actions more than emotions unlike Sagittarius who's the opposite) in general but maybe I'm biased 'cause of my Gemini placements.

How it was explained to me is your first house is all about the self. This is how it was explained to me: "The FIRST HOUSE reflects your personal space and immediate environment. How? Planets in the first house or ruling the first house, and planets aspecting planets in the first house all go into the mix. What? Clothing, theme or colors in your house or on your car, what you do and what you eat, how you express yourself. The ASCENDANT is "you in action, you alive, your attitude." Planets conjoiningor aspecting the Ascendant point to how you act, react, view life in personal terms, expression of feelings, etc. "

So, the first house is important 'cause it has to do with you express yourself. And others perceive how you express yourself obviously. I wonder if you have harsh aspects to your 1st house.

Haha, you become erratic and a huge mess 'cause that's the empathy darling! Pisces moons and Venus' are literally like sponges who soak up everything. There's no way to really turn it off, you just choose to ignore it 'cause it's a lot to handle. I'm in a similar environment but not as harsh as yours sounds. I have the freedom to believe what I want to and practice what I want to but I still get told it's all BS. Again, it's just ignorance and something I have to shrug off.

posted November 01, 2011 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Oh yes I have...
the infamous Saturn Conjunction Ascendant
Mercury Conjunction AS 
 Sun Conjunction AS

 

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Saturn conj. Asc.

posted November 01, 2011 03:02 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
Glad to be at your service, lol. Dad's February born. I don't know many Jan. Aquas so I can't comment but the Feb. ones are always super nice once you understand they're not trying to hurt your feelings. In fact, Aquarians are very caring individuals (they have bleeding heart syndrome for people but express it in their actions more than emotions unlike Sagittarius who's the opposite) in general but maybe I'm biased 'cause of my Gemini placements.

How it was explained to me is your first house is all about the self. This is how it was explained to me: "The FIRST HOUSE reflects your personal space and immediate environment. How? Planets in the first house or ruling the first house, and planets aspecting planets in the first house all go into the mix. What? Clothing, theme or colors in your house or on your car, what you do and what you eat, how you express yourself. The ASCENDANT is "you in action, you alive, your attitude." Planets conjoiningor aspecting the Ascendant point to how you act, react, view life in personal terms, expression of feelings, etc. "

So, the first house is important 'cause it has to do with you express yourself. And others perceive how you express yourself obviously. I wonder if you have harsh aspects to your 1st house.

Haha, you become erratic and a huge mess 'cause that's the empathy darling! Pisces moons and Venus' are literally like sponges who soak up everything. There's no way to really turn it off, you just choose to ignore it 'cause it's a lot to handle. I'm in a similar environment but not as harsh as yours sounds. I have the freedom to believe what I want to and practice what I want to but I still get told it's all BS. Again, it's just ignorance and something I have to shrug off.

When I was younger I didn't know how to respond to emotions either but I think that's a mixture of maturity levels and signs. I mean I would get SO uncomfortable when someone near me was crying or my mom would cry. It would eat away at me inside but I refused to show it and would just wait 'til they were done (Moon opp. Pluto. A lot of astrologers say that aspect isn't a huge one but I've always thought it played apart in the make-up) and was absolutely insensitive to their pain. I understood "Oh they're crying. They're sad." but that's at a "See Spot Run" level which isn't that nurturing. However, it was a reflection of my own needs too. I didn't like my parents to try and comfort me right after they made me cry 'cause it wasn't logical to me. And if it wasn't logical then it was fake so I rejected it, hence I applied the same method towards other people. My point in saying all this is look at your emotional needs and then see if you can find patterns anywhere. It sounds cliche and general, but seriously with your Pisces placements, if you've been screwed over a lot of times or received negative reactions then you probably built up a wall. Pisces always act really badass but they're basically soft puppies. I mean, look at our interaction previously on my other thread and immediately you're like "Oh I'm sorry, I'm really sorry." It's so interesting to me 'cause you guys really match a lot of the superficial tendencies of Aries and the Aries I know are a complicated, twisted bunch.

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I don't want to say it because it sounds really obnoxious, but ya especially my entire early life, I got screwed over emotionally, I had and still have massive walls up, but it's coming down. A major improvement from before. The erratic behavior followed by intense emotions, thats all related to empathy? It sound awful to be quiet honest. I'd much prefer to ignore it.

Moon square Pluto, wouldn't that aspect make you, lose power when you express yourself emotionally? I don't really get Pluto aspects all I know is that power is involved.. I could be wrong. What sign was your mother?