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toptops
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posted November 03, 2011 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hy All ,

there are two sinastry charts of extreme personal importance to me I am trying to dissect and fully comprehend. As I am no pro in any way I will point out what I have already noticed and researched a bit but WILL trully appreciate the input. After all you are faaaar more experienced and tuned into it.

And I probably should add that it is not just the next "pls read our sinastry for just the fun of it" topic.

It is rather do I MARRY the 1st and forget about the 2nd or try if there is any chance with 2nd (with unknown result) and definitely lose the 1st.

I am seriosly lost here...

1 Sinastry Chart
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2 Sinastry Chart
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posted November 03, 2011 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't see either of the charts!

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posted November 03, 2011 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why the second looks smaller, was not intentional. Anyway.

So, what I see:

Chart1:
- My Sun/Asc fall into his DC = Me is what he needs to be complete?
- My Mars falls into his 6 h
- His Venus is into my 6h
- His Mars falls into my 8h
- Hys Sun is in my 4h of Family = so do I see my mate in him?

- Our suns trine, and yes we do come together rather well and undestand each other.
- Yet our moons are not happy with each other, I have to admit I do trumble all over his feeings every now and than.
- Now this goes fot both of them - my Asc is Cappy = so my DC is Cancer. This man has Cancer rising = my other half?!

Chart 2:
- My SUn&Asc fall into his 4 of Family = for him I am the image of family?
- My Moon on his DC
- My Mars on his As
- His Sun&Venus on my DC
- His Mars into my 8 (or actually 7, good anyway)

- My Venus conj his Neptune and from what I have researched it is indeed that I got all dreamy and seeing in him my perfect mate. Yet it was also said that the Venus is illusional and it is not as rosy as it seems to me.
- Now this goes fot both of them - my Asc is Cappy= so my DC is Cancer. This man has Cancer Sun = my other half?!
- My Mars is in libra, which is his rising, so I do see in him the man I look for (I read that the womans mars projetcs the man she wants).
- As far as Saturn is concerned which is supposed to bring stability and structure and as double Cappy is of course my life long Buddy, mine is in his 3h -I don;t pick anything from that. Yet his sits on my IC.What is that supposed to be? Bringing longivity to the realtionship if one ever starts?

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posted November 03, 2011 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry #1

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posted November 03, 2011 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they visible now? Or I messed them totally?

EDIT: Pffuu, now both of them are small. Dear Lonake if you can fix the 1 as well it would be great !

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posted November 03, 2011 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes dear

What was it like getting together with the 2nd one? The Sun is right on your DSC? Was he gaga over you, going out of his way for you?

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posted November 03, 2011 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has not yet happened, the getting together part .

I had looong relationship with the 1, broke up, still seeing him though (oops).

As for 2 I am deadly attracted, he seems to be into me too. Used to be in a relationship, dont know for now, haven't seen him in a couple of months. Will be though within weeks.

Back when we met regularly (was semi proffesional) yes I had the feeling (fellttt so nice) he is trying to be there and make little things and tokens of attention as for example helped me moved into new room at the office on one sunday. ANd it was heavy physical work, don;t get it the wrong way.

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Yes dear

What was it like getting together with the 2nd one? The Sun is right on your DSC? Was he gaga over you, going out of his way for you?


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posted November 03, 2011 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry - they are still not visible to me.

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posted November 03, 2011 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by toptops:
Will be though within weeks.


Sounds interesting (!) Wait and see huh. Yea I've often found that the Venus person goes out of their way if it is in another's 7th.

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posted November 03, 2011 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/sinastryt.gif
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/sinastryc.gif

^ Anongirl, did you go to these links?

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posted November 03, 2011 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm,Anon, not good. I will try it that way also for you as I am so intrigued what will you pick from the charts having in mind that you already know this and that )).

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Sorry - they are still not visible to me.

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posted November 03, 2011 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/sinastryt.gif
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/sinastryc.gif

^ Anongirl, did you go to these links?


I did but they display no chart.

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posted November 03, 2011 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, now I can see them, lol!
I am on my way out for the day so I have to take a look at them a bit later in my day (probably in the evening).

until then,
Anongrl10

quote:
Originally posted by toptops:

Hmmm, not good. I will try it that way also for you as I am so intrigued what will you pick from the charts having in mind that you already know this and that )).

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posted November 03, 2011 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, btw Thanks for the charts, I couldn't get them big .

And I am adding my thoughts to the second post by editing it. Which means you are welcome to correct if there is a wrong deduction.

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by toptops:
[b]Will be though within weeks.


Sounds interesting (!) Wait and see huh. Yea I've often found that the Venus person goes out of their way if it is in another's 7th.[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted November 03, 2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO dear tuxedoMasc,

I have been reading through your replies and wanted to ask you to shed some light on the placement of Chiron in my 4th and the connections it has with two men significant for me:
- the Chiron of the 1st man fells in my 4th near to my own; my Chiron fells into his 11th where his is
- my Chiron fells into the 8th of the 2nd man, where his own is; his fells into my 3rd.

I do have issues with my Home & Family, mainly connected with very poor relation with my father and constant arguments with him as long as I remember. The family model I grew up in is not what a family Should be in my view. I have always bitterly smiled when people say a girl seeks a mate like his father...Well I do seek a man that is 180 degrees different from him. So I think the wounds I need to heal for myself are indeed with the perseption of Home and Family and my fears of will I be able to build one that is succsessful.

SO the 1st man has even worse experience than my own with the whole loving home and family stuff. He is a Cancer rising and his own disfunctional families (divorce, second marriages, other child etc.) has messed him up and he is indeed lost sometimes. And looking in the placements is this right: he is supposed to help me heal my wounds and build a family (with him?). ANd yes he is indeed the opposite of my father in almost all aspects.ANd my CHiron falling into his 11th where his own is meaning I am supposed to help him "fit" in the groups, society, work and freinds circles, to support him and stand by him???

As to the 2nd man my Chiron fells into his 8th, where his own is. His mother has passes away some 7-8 years ago and as a cancer this means the probably strongest bond in his life has been broken. ANd so I am ment to help him heal of that loss? That is how I dissect both our chirons in his 8th of death&rebirth, sex, passins and etc. As for his Chiron falling into my 3rd house of communication, mind, siblings?? hmm I am not so sure what conclusion to draw from there...

The Chirons of all 3 of us are in Taurus, not quite sure what to pick from there.

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posted November 03, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick response so I can bump the thread.
Will look at both more closely BUT so far I'm not impressed with synastry #2. Syn #1 has definitely more potential but I'm not sure yet if it's marriage material. More soon.

PS: I have not read any of the above posts yet so I hope I'm not repeating stuff. Will return later...

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posted November 03, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see your Moon in his DC and his Sun on your DC but I am put off by the tight Nept-Venus conjunction in his 3rd and your 11th house. I personally dislike tight Neptune conjunctions in synastry because Neptune isn't playing fair and can cover things up or make you get half the point about a person and this adds hardship to any intimate relationship.

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posted November 03, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Anon, that resonates with I have read that the Venus is illusional and can't see through the clouds of dreams and imagination. The Neptunian individual could be deceitful and the Venus could be actually the only one in love.

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I can see your Moon in his DC and his Sun on your DC but I am put off by the tight Nept-Venus conjunction in his 3rd and your 11th house. I personally dislike tight Neptune conjunctions in synastry because Neptune isn't playing fair and can cover things up or make you get half the point about a person and this adds hardship to any intimate relationship.

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posted November 03, 2011 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the first chart, your Sun falls in his DC and both your Suns form a trine. Also both your Mars are sextile. There is a nice trine between your Jup/Nept/Merc stellium in Sag with his Jup/Mars. Your Pluto/Mars trine his Venus/Eros; this is very sexual/passionate and even karmic.
Your Saturn's are almost in sextile.
I think this synastry has a lot of potential.
I would have liked to see something involving the nodes... As I said there is potential but I'm not sure if it's of the marriage type pf potential. Perhaps a relationship. How long have you been together? How do you feel about being each one of the two? I'm going to check your previous posts now...

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posted November 03, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly! Also, even when there's no deceit on purpose, when Nept is involved so tight to Venus, the love can be delusional; based on a fantasy rather than reality. So you wake up one fine day and you don't even recognize the person... It's easy to idealize someone in the beginning of an affair but this hardly lasts so you need more "stuff" to make this real even after that stage.

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Yes, Anon, that resonates with I have read that the Venus is illusional and can't see through the clouds of dreams and imagination. The Neptunian individual could be deceitful and the Venus could be actually the only one in love.


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posted November 03, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have to agree with the intense sexual bond , sometimes it is almost scary how uncontrollingly attracted he gets. Don't get it wrong - I am not complaining just making a point that it is wildly strong from his side.

As to the Saturns - explain me pls.

Before I "broke up" with him 8,5 years

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
In the first chart, your Sun falls in his DC and both your Suns form a trine. Also both your Mars are sextile. There is a nice trine between your Jup/Nept/Merc stellium in Sag with his Jup/Mars. Your Pluto/Mars trine his Venus/Eros; this is very sexual/passionate and even karmic.
Your Saturn's are almost in sextile.
I think this synastry has a lot of potential.
I would have liked to see something involving the nodes... As I said there is potential but I'm not sure if it's of the marriage type pf potential. Perhaps a relationship. How long have you been together? How do you feel about being each one of the two? I'm going to check your previous posts now...

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posted November 03, 2011 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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- Now this goes fot both of them - my Asc is Cappy= so my DC is Cancer. This man has Cancer Sun = my other half?!

It's more evident with #2 because his Sun is opposite your Sun. This opposition although it sounds a difficult/challenging aspect, it is a signs of "staying power" of the relationship. Couples who have stayed together for a long time usually have strong Sun/Moon bonds. But this is still an opposition. Your core personalities are very different and it will need to be a dynamic relationship if it is going to last.

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- My Mars is in libra, which is his rising, so I do see in him the man I look for (I read that the womans mars projetcs the man she wants).

Although it sounds true by sign, it is not a close call if you check the degrees. Besides, he's a Libra ASC, not Libra Sun. Sun is the real personality; the ASC is what the others see in you. So you see him as close to your ideal man. Is this true? The rest of the synastry will tell.

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- As far as Saturn is concerned which is supposed to bring stability and structure and as double Cappy is of course my life long Buddy, mine is in his 3h -I don;t pick anything from that. Yet his sits on my IC.What is that supposed to be? Bringing longivity to the realtionship if one ever starts?

Since Saturn is your chart ruler and your Sun ruler, he's hitting an angle (IC) in the synastry is a very positive sign. IC is all about home and where you feel yourself and comfy.

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posted November 03, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by toptops:
I have to agree with the intense sexual bond , sometimes it is almost scary how uncontrollingly attracted he gets. Don't get it wrong - I am not complaining just making a point that it is wildly strong from his side.

Would you say it's not as strong from your side? You seem to have the upper hand because it's your strong planets (Pluto+Mars) vs. his sweet Venus. Poor guy!

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As to the Saturns - explain me pls.

A sextile is an harmonious aspect. But I also see your Saturn opposing your IC. I like the touch of Sat on an angle like IC but the opposition is a bit challenging. Do you feel like sharing a home with him? How does he feel? You might come as dominating his home life; this is good in terms of being in a marriage situation but try to let him voice his "home" needs too.

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Before I "broke up" with him 8,5 years
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What? You mean you were apart for 8.5 yrs?!
Why? And how come you are back together again?

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posted November 03, 2011 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by toptops:
I have to agree with the intense sexual bond , sometimes it is almost scary how uncontrollingly attracted he gets. Don't get it wrong - I am not complaining just making a point that it is wildly strong from his side.
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Would you say it's not as strong from your side? You seem to have the upper hand because it's your strong planets (Pluto+Mars) vs. his sweet Venus. Poor guy!

I would say no, but that just means that his attraction to me is stronger than mine to him, not that it is not there. After all he is all indulging taurus soul and I am mean double Cappy with a lot of fire placements, which....yeah...actually equals poor guy.

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As to the Saturns - explain me pls.

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A sextile is an harmonious aspect. But I also see your Saturn opposing your IC. I like the touch of Sat on an angle like IC but the opposition is a bit challenging. Do you feel like sharing a home with him? How does he feel? You might come as dominating his home life; this is good in terms of being in a marriage situation but try to let him voice his "home" needs too.


I shared a home with him for those 8,5 in question (breaking up was last year). And yes as stated I was the mean dominiering Cappy that had the say. I have to admit he was able to cope up with my fiery temper (aries moon, you've prob noticed). Yeah it just equaled his taurus stubbornness and patience

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posted November 03, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for toptops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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- My Mars is in libra, which is his rising, so I do see in him the man I look for (I read that the womans mars projetcs the man she wants).

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Although it sounds true by sign, it is not a close call if you check the degrees. Besides, he's a Libra ASC, not Libra Sun. Sun is the real personality; the ASC is what the others see in you. So you see him as close to your ideal man. Is this true? The rest of the synastry will tell.

Yes, Anon, unfortunately I do "feel" and see in him my ideal man... Feel in "" due to the Neptune thing . which makes me uncertain how much of what I feel towards him is justified.

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- As far as Saturn is concerned which is supposed to bring stability and structure and as double Cappy is of course my life long Buddy, mine is in his 3h -I don;t pick anything from that. Yet his sits on my IC.What is that supposed to be? Bringing longivity to the realtionship if one ever starts?

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Since Saturn is your chart ruler and your Sun ruler, he's hitting an angle (IC) in the synastry is a very positive sign. IC is all about home and where you feel yourself and comfy.

I do feel comfy with him (you have already noticed the moon comp), and dreamy (yeah ) and Woman! The last probably due to his way around me which is suppose to be the cancer male thing

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