posted November 04, 2011 07:41 AM            

I don't know how you are even supposed to confront them on this. My friend is like this all the time. I'm very hard working and sometimes I even do her job for he because she gets very lazy and complains, I finish her job because I don't want problems.. and she doesn't appreciate it, she complains more. So when I confronted her nicely she avoided me lol and got her boyfriend to talk for her... I've just notice this with the Scorpios I work with too. They don't seem like a "powerful" sign, it just seems like a major front.. Any ideas what would spark their laziness? I only know one Scorpio that is the opposite of what I have just said... but she has a lot of air placements so maybe that's why. It's just weird howcome the ones I work with behve like this? They really fail to understand the consequences of their actions.. How do you confront a Scorpio in a way where they won't avoid/ignore the situation and actually deal with it?

posted November 04, 2011 07:47 AM            

instead of owning up to anything she walked away and said "no no i don't do any of that sorry!" and than she goes into the back texts her boyfriend, and her boyfriend comes to me and does the talking for her.. I don't get it. what's up with that? why can't she just talk to me herself why bring someone else into it? I told him "Don't speak for her Johnny. She's an adult or at least legally, she can talk for herself." I wasn't like angry at her I was annoyed/****** but when im ****** I look very relaxed as always.. but ya what's up with that...???

posted November 04, 2011 09:37 AM            

She hasn't been kicked in the ribs(metaphor) enough in her life it seems.

Crack that whip.

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
instead of owning up to anything she walked away and said "no no i don't do any of that sorry!"

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Sounds like she doesn't want to work. It's a good excuse to find a reason to stop paying her for her "trouble".

I suppose I count myself lucky (or unfortunate, depending) to have been raised in a place that doesn't tolerate that nonsense. Work or Get Out.

posted November 04, 2011 09:56 AM            

Problem is, scorpios probably don't care about what others think about them, so perhaps even if you tried confronting she wouldn't listen.

posted November 04, 2011 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:
Problem is, scorpios probably don't care about what others think about them, so perhaps even if you tried confronting she wouldn't listen.

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posted November 04, 2011 10:27 AM            

Your topic kind of made me think. I have Pluto and Moon Scorp.

I work as a teacher aide for a preschool class for 3 yr olds...and it's their first year of preschool...one kid in the class is really out of control.

I'm adjusting a bit, because I work with a different teacher and it's her first year. I realize I was spoiled by the other teacher(Aqua Sun) I had last year, and that she really did some of the dirty work that I should of probably done...I was so one of those "I don't do diapers" people. I didn't say it like that...but when a kid sh!t them self I was like "I've never changed a diaper before!"

That changed in the summer when I worked at a day care...I grew up.

And yeah the new person I worked with she pretty much wants me to deal with the kids that aren't fully potty trained. I was thinking this is bullsh!t, she is EVIL!...but then I thought about it more...if she is the main teacher and I am the aide...then why should she do the dirty work?!...I thought about it more and realized I don't blame her.

Well this one kid is so difficult in our class, and of course I deal with him when it's time to take the kids to the bathroom. This kid will throw his pants at the other kids...he will constantly flush the toilet. RUN AROUND, push other kids.

If you go after him he will run, and think it's a game.

I blurted out in the bathroom to her "He is so out of control!"

and then she said "then control him, that is your job"

She had a point but I couldn't help but feel rage to her...I probably gave her dagger eyes and then stepped up my game. (none of the other teachers talk to me at all like that)

Yes she was right...but I was still ****** off by how she said it...like I found it belittling.

She apologized the next time though...I'm glad she did...because I was worried that she thought that she could get in the habit of talking to me like that...and I would loose it.

I get along well with many people at my work...but there was one mom that would pick up her kids when I do latchkey there later in the day...and she would make belittling comments to me when ever I had to deal with her, that where completely un called for. I sorta lost my temper with her once. And she realized it. So I realized I just need to avoid this person so I don't talk to a grown up with disrespect in front of kids...even though she's done it to me a few times.

posted November 04, 2011 10:49 AM            

On some level, I think you might be "counting the hits and ignoring the misses" - i.e. you aren't as likely to notice the Scorpios who shut up and get on with their work. But the lazy ones will stick out in your mind.

At the same time, I am a Scorpio and I will be totally honest - I get lazy if I'm not challenged or if my work seems pointless. Luckily I think my Virgo Rising and Cap Mars keep me from slacking off TOO much, but definitely one of my Achilles' heel is that I need to be emotionally invested in what I'm doing. It doesn't need to be the flashiest or most exciting work in the world, but I need to know that my work is meaningful in some way.

posted November 04, 2011 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Malena:
I get lazy if I'm not challenged or if my work seems pointless. Luckily I think my Virgo Rising and Cap Mars keep me from slacking off TOO much, but definitely one of my Achilles' heel is that I need to be emotionally invested in what I'm doing.

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Scorp sun
Virgo Asc
Virgo Mars

I need to be emotionally invested to get the absolute best out of me. But on the flip side of the coin, I can work with the best of them when I know what my job is.

My current job is a cake walk, the only challenge is with my patience.

My emotional involvement stems from the fact that if it wasn't for this job I would have never joined this website.

I do my work efficiently, that opens up small time slots to post little things here.

I was meant to do this, that is why I am here now.

But I have notion things will be changing soon, so like I have said before, my days here are limited.

posted November 04, 2011 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I don't know very many scorpios, and the ones I do aren't very talkactive.

I'm a Scorpio myself & I always try to be level-headed.
But Idk you tell me, was my comment on your other post logical? :/ I know one thing for sure, when I have a bad experience with a sign i certainly don't stereotype all of them.

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posted November 04, 2011 03:47 PM            

typically, a scorpio will not do things to get on someones bad side...usually something will happen between the scorpio and someone else that you didnt necesarilly see or hear about and that person got on scorpios bad side

and of course, scorpio is a water sign so will generally act out of heated emotions so they may not always seem logical

i'm not trying to defend them but that is scorpios nature...and with work, they (i should say we) usually work hard, i know i do and i dont typically try to do something to get on someones bad side

but of course, (and this word gets thrown around a lot) it depends on the "evolution" of the sign....there are grey lizards, scorpions and eagles...i like to pride myself as an eagle, but the ones you know might be grey lizards

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 04, 2011 05:23 PM            

I like to think I'm not lazy or avoid issues (although in some cases I most definitely did to my own detriment) so, from a reasonably subjective point of view there might be hope yet Now... I'm going to hold my perpetual fence-sitting position and say it goes both ways. I've met quite a few Scorpios. Among which my mother, my uncle and my son. Among which also my ex's brother, and my ex himself is a Scorpio rising. Also a few old friends of mine are Scorpio. At least three spring to mind that are anything but lazy, can move mountains with their labour and don't make it easy on themselves. Now it needs to be said that my mother, among those three, even though she works very hard, she will jump at every opportunity to call in the union. That, imho, shows a bit of "look, we can work hard, but we want to be pampered hard too". The unions here in Belgium are quite known to urge the people to put down their work and go on strike for the most rediculous reasons. Also my uncle and one of my Scorpio old friends are very hard workers and you wouldn't hear them complain. Now, I like to think of myself as a hard worker too, but truth be told, even though I have the ability to move mountains, I always find the best way to do as much work as possible with as little effort as possible. But in the end, jobs get done that way too and it gives way for more jobs to be done in less time altogether I'm afraid my son takes after his mother in that respect, he doesn't do things if he gets his message across in another way (i.e.: 2 years old and his vocabulary has less counts than the fingers on both my hands because his facial expressions and finger pointing get the message across, also still in nappies because let's face it: when you can pee and poop while playing, why should you learn to go potty? ).

Now, about those two brothers, Scorpio rising and Scorpio sun. Note that my Scorpio rising ex has nothing else in Scorpio except for his Uranus (which is also conjunct his rising). He works hard, when it gets him somewhere. He drinks, is lazy otherwise and messes up his private life, but it's never his fault. He avoids issues and is damn good at it. His brother is a touch worse than that. Both of them have driven me nearly mental before with their "woe me" attitude. But maybe that's genetics and not the Scorpio influence, because both my mother and my son are heavy on the Scorpio (both have half their chart there) and even if you can't say about a 2 year old whether or not he's a hard worker, it would be unfair to say this about my mother because she does work damn hard. I know, I've worked with her.

But... Still sitting on that fence here, I'm going to say that it is something I've heard a lot of Scorpio's say and seen them do (not only my ex's brother, of course) so you could consider it Scorpionic (the whole giving up because it's useless anyway and just pretend it didn't happen), but there are quite a bit decent Scorpios out there.

posted November 04, 2011 05:38 PM            

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 04, 2011 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
I don't stereotype. There's a reason why I said in my experience or specifically talk about the ones I know personally. I do this for this exact reason, that others don't get uppity and assume I am stereotyping.

my mind is elsewhere can you remind me what post you are referring to?

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posted November 05, 2011 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Every sign has some people who are lazy. Scorpios are very intense so if work is important to them they will take it very seriously and work until they burn themselves out unless you are a very balanced scorpio which they are quite a few of those too and those scorpios tend to keep to themselves at work and hate drama at work and so only interact with co workers occasionally and usually are really diplomatic on how they go about it. I am sure there are some scorpios who are lazy too like any sign and some scorpios really excel been their own boss bc some scorpios have big egos and don't like to be told what to do at least when they are younger they clash with authority a bit some of them.

That been said you have northnode in the 10th so you probably think a lot of people are lazy. I had a co worker at my last job who I have to give it to her she was super hard working and was a great case manager but rubbed a lot of people the wrong way bec her standards of how others should do the their job were super high and she was very verbal about it and basically you had to be perfect at how you did your job or she will feel frustrated and think you are lazy. I am sorry a lot of people she had a problem with I didnt' have a problem with and I have sun in the 10th. Her standards were really high and people around her found her obnoxious. I admired her a lot for her work ethics but didnt want to be friends with her bc she rubbed me and everyone who sat near her the wrong. Everyone who sat near her can hear how she interacted with others when she was unhappy with how something was done and found her obnoxious. If she would be humble I would have totally been friends with her and was for a while but then backed off. I dont know if this is a northnode in the 10th thing but if it is I wish she would learn that not everybody makes career their priority and are obsessed with perfection and proving their worth to their supervisors. Most people tend to approach their job with less intensity but still do a good job, maybe not an excellent job but definitely a good job. She wanted excellence from everyone all the time.

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How did you relate my NN with me finding most people lazy LOL im really curious now

posted November 05, 2011 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Every sign has some people who are lazy. Scorpios are very intense so if work is important to them they will take it very seriously and work until they burn themselves out unless you are a very balanced scorpio which they are quite a few of those too and those scorpios tend to keep to themselves at work and hate drama at work and so only interact with co workers occasionally and usually are really diplomatic on how they go about it. I am sure there are some scorpios who are lazy too like any sign and some scorpios really excel been their own boss bc some scorpios have big egos and don't like to be told what to do at least when they are younger they clash with authority a bit some of them.

That been said you have northnode in the 10th so you probably think a lot of people are lazy. I had a co worker at my last job who I have to give it to her she was super hard working and was a great case manager but rubbed a lot of people the wrong way bec her standards of how others should do the their job were super high and she was very verbal about it and basically you had to be perfect at how you did your job or she will feel frustrated and think you are lazy. I am sorry a lot of people she had a problem with I didnt' have a problem with and I have sun in the 10th. Her standards were really high and people around her found her obnoxious. I admired her a lot for her work ethics but didnt want to be friends with her bc she rubbed me and everyone who sat near her the wrong. Everyone who sat near her can hear how she interacted with others when she was unhappy with how something was done and found her obnoxious. If she would be humble I would have totally been friends with her and was for a while but then backed off. I dont know if this is a northnode in the 10th thing but if it is I wish she would learn that not everybody makes career their priority and are obsessed with perfection and proving their worth to their supervisors. Most people tend to approach their job with less intensity but still do a good job, maybe not an excellent job but definitely a good job. She wanted excellence from everyone all the time.

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posted November 05, 2011 01:11 AM            

jus sayin.

i think there is lots of truth to the scorpio being so moronic that they don't fess up to their b.s. because of control.. they fear not being in control and if they even so much as acknowledged what the friend is saying, even if based in all truth and even if they know it themselves, they'll never admit it because it will be seen as a weakness.. i'm not a scorpio but i understand the mentality very well.

from then on, if the friend felt a right to mention something like that to the scorpio, they'll probably do it again if the scorpio is receptive.. and again, and again and again and if it does happen more than once, it can get ugly.. and fast.. it's better for them to walk away than to express what they're feeling because more than likely, they want to gouge your eyes out.

i think u should be very aware that you're on thin ice now, op, and anything u say, can and will be used against u without prior notice.

you've been warned.

i don't know if there even is a time where scorpio will be receptive and explain itself without feeling like it is losing control.

i'm not sure if it even occurs in an intimate setting.

they may listen but changing is not their thing, they don't 'do that' and as i have significant taurus, i know the feeling and sometimes it's hard to explain but for the fixed-ness of a sign, there are external situations that sometimes has the person in between a rock and a hard place that has them appearing 'fixed' and once that situation is gone, the shake-up of it was so unpleasant that they become stuck.. talk about diggin heels in?

pluto opposes my ascendant.. it's either stuck, or on mode:'transformation' but i don't know if it's ever gradual.. nor is it 'consistent' with ridiculous expectations of most jobs where one should just appear busy even if not doing anything and even if their work is just done.

it's important for scorpio to have a passion and to live with meaning. i don't know what your job is, but some compassion as to understanding that the job is seen as a job and not an end to all means.. there's gotta be more and if that more just isn't there,