posted November 07, 2011 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Yes I did. Sigh. What do you expect? Its South-East Asia where I was born. That was back when JFK was still around and the place wasn't any more developed than a simple Pacific fishing village.

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you see here? fishing village....quite possible the time isnt accurate...but they probably tried to record the tob as close as possible

professional astrologers will even say that the recorded tob isnt always accurate, even if its a specific time

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted November 08, 2011 12:02 AM            

We're on an astrology forum, so its a big deal.

Nickig

It's just an assumption the birth cert is wrong. I actually think the birth cert reflects his career extraordinarily well. The Neptune in the 9th shows foreign lands and people being very important and thats been true. It shoes his strong faith in religion too.

Venus in the 12 th shows his romantic nature and that he places his so on a pedestal. It shows very deep and spiritual love is how he experiences love and relationships.

Sat in the 12th can show a distant father.

posted November 08, 2011 01:36 AM            

Sure it is not a big deal in day to day life, but since we are on an astrology forum, it does matter.

His birthtime may or may not be correct; don`t know that.
But changing one`s birthtime on the basis of assumptions, which are directly dependent on the astrological understanding of the astrologer (which is always limited, no matter how good the astrologer is), doesn`t sit right with me. It`s just too subjective in my opinion.

Personally I would only do that, if I did a lengthy rectification (and even that is pretty subjective most of the time).

BUT I think it doesn`t really matter in this case.
The OP and Ami have a connection, and obviously Ami "gets the job done well", asking the right questions, based on intuition and empathy. And they seem to enjoy their discussion. *shrugs*

posted November 08, 2011 03:05 AM            

And YoursTruely, to tell you the truth I thought your synastry with you wife was more amazing before you opted for a modified birth time…

This is just my humble opinion, but it is a BIG DEAL (in terms of astrological interpretation… not in terms of our whole lives) for an astrologer to advise that a client change their recorded birth time… which can change your Asc and all the rest of your house cusp’s which rule the different areas of your life… YoursTruely I’d advise that before you accept the altered time of birth you study astrology yourself for a while… until you can seriously get a feel for it, and then you can make your own decision on whether your birth time is accurate or not…

Personally I suspect that your original time of birth is closer to the truth even if it is not exact based on the synastry/connection I saw between you and your wife…

Such as…

Her Venus(affection)/Jupiter (optimism) conjunction right on top of your Uranus in your 7th house (house of marriage) looks pretty magical to me… And with Venus being her 5th house ruler (house of romance) that makes it an even more exciting aspect.

Also, even if your change you chart so that your own Uranus and Pluto don’t fall into your own 7th house… you are still left with the fact the HER Uranus and Pluto still fall into YOUR 7th house even with the modified birth time… so there is still some of that Uranus/Pluto type energy to your marriage anyway… and as mentioned before it does not always express itself in a negative way…. But could be about your dedication to each other (Pluto), and the uniqueness and strong friendship in your marriage (Uranus). And with the unmodified birth time your Asc at 5 degrees Pisces is trine your wife’s Asc at 8 degrees of Cancer which would mean your external personalities get along very well on a day to day basis, and that the two of you a similar outlook on life…. to me this is a beautiful aspect to see in synastry. With the modified birth time your Asc (persona) is conjunct her Mc (career) but…. It is also square her Moon (emotions), which is a mixed bag of positive and negative things. Also, in the unmodified time of birth (tob) her Asc falls into your 5th house of romance… making her persona very attractive to you on a romantic level… and with the unmodified birth time the two of you also have several planets in each other 7th house of marriage… you had all your Capricorn planets in her 7th house… and she in turn had all her Virgo planets in your 7th house… showing that you are both each others ideal mate in many ways, and that there is a magnetic pull between the two of you…. With the altered birth time this is lessened… the comparison between the two of you was lovely in my eyes already (not perfect… no synastry is perfect… but lovely for the most part) and needed no changing to make it ’fit’…

Since you are new to astrology, I understand that it may be confusing when some people tell you one thing, and then others tell you something else. So before you take on something as big (in terms of astrology) as an altered birth time I seriously recommend studying it for your self… and maybe going to see a reputable professional astrologer… most of us on this site use astrology as a hobby, and while many of us are very good at it, we are still capable of mistakes… a professional astrologer will have seen thousands of charts, and should be able to give you expert advise as to whether or not an altered birth time is in order… and also to give you a deeper understanding of your chart…

posted November 08, 2011 05:05 AM            

“Just as background, my wife and I have been married almost 19 years and have 3 children. We had an almost instantaneous connection despite having grown up on opposite sides of this Earth. We decided on marriage in 25 days after meeting and 22 days after our first date. We were married in 11 weeks. We have two living sons. We lost our first born daughter at birth and another child of undetermined sex in utero.”

To me your experience with meeting your wife and subsequently marrying her is a very Uranus in the 7th house type of experience… Uranus rules sudden, unexpected events and lightening bolt like flashes of intuition, and exhilarating excitement. You and your wife were able to recognize immediately as potential love interests, had a whirlwind romance, and then married within 11 weeks… sudden marriage is practically textbook Uranus in the 7th house… and so are unusual matches… like inter-cultural and interracial marriages… Uranus also has to do with the strange and yet fascinating… as well as friendship and mutual respect for each other’s individuality…

And having Pluto in the 7th house could account for an all or nothing type of commitment to each other… Pluto rules intensity and focus, as well as the longing to be deeply involved with a loved one on a very personal and intimate level…and Pluto is a very slow moving planet that can maintain it’s focus over long periods of time…

Yes it’s true that on some cases a Uranus/Pluto combo in the 7th could produce some kind of obsessive crazy radical in relationships… but that is only if you are tapping into the most negative aspects of each planet… it could just as easily refer to having a relationship that is able to balance both the need of deep emotional involvement, with a fun friendship and joy in each other’s uniqueness as people…

So my vote is that you may actually have Uranus and Pluto in the 7th house, as your recorded birth time would indicate…

Make of it what you will…

posted November 08, 2011 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
YorsTrulyAlways,
You have a beautiful family
Your sons are just adorable

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Still_Hopeful,

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posted November 08, 2011 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I did not see the pic of your son's, Ian. Did you just add them?

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posted November 08, 2011 02:09 PM            

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posted November 08, 2011 02:27 PM            

Nobody we knew said the relationship would last because they were too short sighted. Many reasons were provided, among which were the interracial, cross-ethnicity and multinational dimensions to the marriage.

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