posted November 08, 2011 01:30 AM            

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the date i had yesterday, was probably one of the nicest times i've had with someone in a looong time.. it was a little unexpected but i got a good vibe from them.

Sun in Sagittarius
Venus conjunct Sun in Sagittarius
Rising in LAST degree of Libra

Moon in Cancer
Mercury in Scorpio
Mars in Virgo
-Mars opposing Saturn in Pisces(in their 5th house)
Jupiter in Leo(10th)

we fooled around and it was one of those dates that doesn't expect to leave right afterward and they wouldn't like for you to leave, either... i talked to them today; i don't know how i feel.

i bruised them up.
i don't know how but they sent me a pic of it from our roughhousing last night.

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"yeah, i want you to be yourself"

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in that same convo:

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"i think you'll have to turn it down a notch.. i get that you're passionate, you don't do 'vanilla' but i do... --uh, sensual.. i like sensual, ykno?

u there?

hello?

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ME: yeah, sorry, i pushed the mute button without meaning to; iphone.

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oh, ok.. because you didn't say anything so i was just going to hang up and say well, next number, right up...

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so not only are my sexual methods too much (i've yet to find one single person who hasn't told me to stop being so rough or so aggressive that is able to keep up) but they also seem to be playing some kind of game and i am P!SSED because i did not at all think that they were going to be that way!

their jupiter makes a conjunction to my moon and venus.. right away -something in their eyes, i knew that i liked-- we spent the whoooooole day together: chatting, had dinner, drank a little bit and then a few good hrs of rough and fun sex.

we've discussed how frivolous relationships are nowadays and we both pretty much agreed a lot when we discussed the things we valued; i'm hearing from them that they'd like to work on 'intimacy'; yeah, ok, i can do intimacy... my f*in play requires LOTS of intimacy! "but i wanna get to know you.. i don't want to have sex with you, even though i find you attractive very much but that's not what i want it to be about.."

honestly, Venus in Cancer here, helloooooo!!!???

i closed right up.

-my sex is too rough
-you'd 'chalk it up' as another one biting the dust
-you'd like to NOT have sex...?
-you want to get to know me..

i gather, this is right up there along with that sorry excuse of a template that some people still stupidly give: "hey, think you're great.. honest, but let's be friends.. "

"i didn't hurt your feelings did i?"

ME: No, no, i'm listening..

"oh, ok, good.. i don't want to say something that would do that"

BULLLLLLLLLSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TTTTTTTTTTTTT

if i ever did know a Mercury in Scorpio! --they're playing games!

i texted them earlier today and thanked them for an awesome night and told them about how much i liked them and everything and they called me and the conversations were sweet, i get that they're being genuine but then that, 'oh, calling the next number, right up'? wtf is that sh!T???

so, boys and girls..
we have their sun trining my venus and moon...
my moon would trine their venus because as a luminary, i widen the traditional degree orb
and my venus would trine their venus as well if one widened the orb but i don't know where i stand about doing that when looking at the planet Venus..

my mars trines their sun,
trines their venus
their mars sextiles my moon and venus

..so what gives!?

NOTHING!
NOTHING GIVES!

because you could have the most amazing and pleasing aspects but even if they didn't have a mercury in scorpio, you'd be left with one jaded as$ individual that has resulted to playing by the 'rules' of the 'game' and really sh!t on something that could've been quite beautiful.. so, you don't share your beast.. you hide it.. that's what you do!

and if they get a glimpse of it, tell em that they were mistaken; it was just a moose.

then, when they pull some sh!tty stunt (which i'm really just beginning to expect everyone to wait for the wrong time to do it) --you unleash that motherf*cker! you unleash it and f*ck their **** up and teach them a motherf'in lesson for being stupid! that's what u do!.. and if they wonder why it happened, then you quickly back off and let em figure it out on their own: there is never a right time to be a sh!tty! NEVER!

at least, not with me or while i'm around!

my pluto is 8 degrees away from their mercury, where neptune also resides making said conjunction to mercury.

their moon falls on my chiron.
it squares my mars
it opposes my neptune
trines my pluto
squares my mercury

and i think i've just closed off all sides of me to that person and now they're only to be dealt with at arm's reach and not an inch closer! i don't understand why people are so stupid!

seriously, i feel Venus in Cancer can really just give the world to someone they truly care for so long as it's mutual, safe and there's TRUST!!!!!!!!!! but i don't trust this kinda b.s... what that leads me to trust, is the game.. and i'm way better at the game than anyone else could ever think they'd be!

posted November 08, 2011 02:13 AM            

where in the hell does the playbook say that it'll just be at their convenience?

i'm angry.

posted November 08, 2011 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
one of the few person's i'd look forward to having sex with *(which is a big change! it isn't just them lusting after me and trying their luck at cheap come-on's)* and they'd like to not have sex.. so, i feel that because they say so, i'd have to comply but then when they decide that yeah, they'd like to give it a go; i'd just be expected to be up for it?

where in the hell does the playbook say that it'll just be at their convenience?

i'm angry.

oh, yeah, i'm angry.. i hate them already.

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Awe Tuxe. That's incredibly frustrating. You can't change who you are. No matter what anyone else says. I know you were happy about meeting this person who seemed genuine, but what kind of person tells you to change how you act to better suit them. They don't have to change, but you do. The middle ground would be a comprise if you really cared about each other. You try to pace yourself and they try to speed up. If that doesn't work then compatibility just isn't there.

posted November 08, 2011 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
one of the few person's i'd look forward to having sex with *(which is a big change! it isn't just them lusting after me and trying their luck at cheap come-on's)* and they'd like to not have sex.. so, i feel that because they say so, i'd have to comply but then when they decide that yeah, they'd like to give it a go; i'd just be expected to be up for it?

where in the hell does the playbook say that it'll just be at their convenience?

i'm angry.

oh, yeah, i'm angry.. i hate them already.

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posted November 08, 2011 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
Because...that's how sex is. You can't really expect someone to do it when they don't want to, or do it in a way that makes them uncomfortable. It's not all about you.

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posted November 08, 2011 12:23 PM            

with a fifth house sun, i think i'm pretty comfortable being me and i like to encourage other people to genuinely be themselves, too! i actually love it when i can be around other people who feel comfortable enough to really just let a lot of the snake skin crawl off! (leo moon)

but f! every time that i've found someone to say something along the lines of 'yeah, be yourself' it really just means 'yeah, be yourself so lthat i can see what you're about and decide if it's what i want to deal with or not while i keep most of my cards hidden' and then that's when i lose it..

i feel so naive sometimes and stupid for believing or just trusting people like that to then find that they're only saying whatever they want to get some kind of upper hand with then the whole thing leaving me feeling used.

i'm supposed to go see this person, today.. they want to learn to 'meditate'; i've had experience there before but have never taught..

they want me to come over and i was up for the visit but i'm so disgusted by them already. i really don't know if i even want to look at them, really.. it gets so tiring to be so aware of what people are really trying to do than what they are actually doing and having to point the sh*t out for them! it's like i'm in a f'in therapy session with almost everyone that i meet without me billing them for the hr!

don't know if i'd like to cancel, but i already feel that by just our talk yesterday, they've proven that their leaving me in the dust would be highly a possibility.

they talked about moving upstate, how they have their friend and their recent conversation about how if the friend would leave her husband in case it didn't work out, that they were going to back each other up.... really, it's about as much of a pre-nuptial.. what does that say before you even get into the relationship about where you expect it to go?

i'm ****** because i guess i let lots of the fancy talks of what i wanted to believe slide in, we were talking about relationships lasting for more than 20 years and how much it takes for people making it last that long and all of that mumbo-jumbo i believed romance to be and then a friend goes over, they have a talk with that friend about her leaving her husband and suddenly, the talks between them and i are then completely different and they're talking to me as if for some reason, my mind took off on it's own and i'd be stupid to think of anything else because now there's 'distance'.

i'm very resentful.. i really don't care to be dealing with these games from a lot many other people.. i think this might be the last straw and i have half a mind to send em to hell and not even talk to them again, ever!

i don't know if there's any use in my going over.. i know how i am and when i'm pis$ed, i rarely hide it.. Venus in Cancer will tell em that i'm fine but my reactions will say otherwise and it's as if just my presence when i'm pis$ed can throw a wrench into anyone's wheel.

they're going out of the country tomorrow, won't be back for at least a week, i believe, are looking into moving upstate..

really, i don't see what would be the point here.. i'd go out for a drink but it isn't anywhere near 5 n i've done away with the booze for a while now and don't want to 'dirty' up my body like that.

resentful because i let my emotions get involved.

pi$$ed because they're brushing em off.

heightened because i know they're playing a game

posted November 08, 2011 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
Exactly - and if you aren't willing to compromise (which is admittedly hard to do where sex is concerned) then find someone who is more sexually compatible...

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posted November 08, 2011 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i don't even know where i'd be able to run into or meet jared leto.. why do u ask?

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Ha! I know you are being funny but my cousin actually met him a couple of years ago at a concert, she didn't sleep with him though!

posted November 08, 2011 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
but f! every time that i've found someone to say something along the lines of 'yeah, be yourself' it really just means 'yeah, be yourself so lthat i can see what you're about and decide if it's what i want to deal with or not while i keep most of my cards hidden' and then that's when i lose it..

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I hear ya Tuxe but you can't control how other people react to you. If they react badly that's their issue and screw them for having immoral intentions. No one should feel like they've just been sized up and used, and no one should use intimate or personal information to use and abuse other people. Trust me, like we've discussed before I've dealt with similar situations, people wanting something that they don't know how to handle. Compromise is important but if someone is trying to restrict you or change you then that's no relationship you want to be apart of.

posted November 08, 2011 05:52 PM            

i cancelled.. i talked up a storm in my head and ranted on here but i'm not going.

i texted them once i talked myself back to a peaceful state while i was in the shower.. said 'hey'; that was an hr ago.. i was supposed to call them back last night after i left a movie but after our chat, i really had no interest.

i went to my nearest computer and started this thread; texted them that i got home, then i told them good night and left it at that.

they didn't reply to my text from today and that was sent an hr ago.. so i told em i was texting them about today but take it they were still busy with their friend and doing what they had planned on doing so maybe we could do our thing some other day since i know that they fly out and they've probably still gotta pack so, i wished them luck on their trip tomorrow.

told them i'll ttyl.

my service has a neat feature that allows me to block certain numbers so i don't care whether they go and come back, i'm thinking of probably blocking their number to not hear from them again and just be done with it.

simple.

the lesson here is for them and anyone else reading. play the game if you must but know that there is always someone bigger, someone stronger, someone wiser, and someone smarter... and if i'm the other party involved, best believe that that 'someone' is me!

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posted November 08, 2011 06:25 PM            

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Next please...

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posted November 08, 2011 08:15 PM            

Oh Tuxy-baby. You make it sound so exciting! I'll die by yer sword.

But in all seriousness, do what you want, really. Compromise is to make both parties happy, and if you ain't happy, don't compromise, right? Personally, I'm good at compromise. Your happiness is my happiness, pretty much.

posted November 08, 2011 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
"I gotta get the ice cream out, put the cookies all up in it - I don't even know how to use that blender - they got me pressin' all dese crazy buttons. No, you can have a coke!"

Oh Tuxy-baby. You make it sound so exciting! I'll die by yer sword.

But in all seriousness, do what you want, really. Compromise is to make both parties happy, and if you ain't happy, don't compromise, right? Personally, I'm good at compromise. Your happiness is my happiness, pretty much.

So what did you end up deciding? Did you cut 'em off?

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they called, left a voicemail.. i haven't listened to it yet.. don't know if i want to but i haven't and don't plan on calling them back.. it's so weird because i know that i'm not just imagining all of this sh*t.. i don't know how many people would find the things they said to be slightly hurtful or offensive; the rest, i know is me reacting to my own baggage and i've got it in spades, but whatever... when you take someone, you take them and that load along with them!

they told me about how they were once chatting with their ex and how they'd tell the ex that their 'box had been tampered with' before they even got to them so to not put any of their crap on them..

honestly, something tells me that perhaps me making this move might be best because had someone been stupid enough to tell me something like that, i'd really not think twice about just getting physical.

that's about the most insensitive remark that i can think of.. i don't know the setting of how it happened, but i cannot imagine it popping it's stupid head up at the wrong time especially if i was to be in some vulnerable place.

--and you know how sun in sagittarius people can be..

i didn't block their number.. i'll wait a while before i do that maybe while they're gone.. i don't want to get caught in any of that because to me, it feels like they were playing games.. and if it's just me, then i've got my share of work to do but if indeed i'm not mistaken; i don't play dat!

after that text, i haven't communicated anything to them.. their venus squares my sun; funny how i noticed that not long ago and they're going through their venus return right now as well as their sun being transited by said venus..

they'll have a full moon in their seventh when it happens tomorrow(?) in taurus and they'll be gone.. i'll have it in my first and i'll be most likely by myself and that's just how i like it.

posted November 08, 2011 08:33 PM            

i don't remember playing any games but i do remember being on alert; not giving in to them and not having sex.

posted November 08, 2011 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
know what? this is very reminiscent of what happened with that person that had their venus in my twelfth squaring my chiron and neptune and i feel as if i'm reacting in the same way that they did...

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Oh gawd, I remember your thread about the Mars in Pisces one. This one has Virgo.

Looking at Mars alone, neither seem very compatible, ya know? I dunno, I find Mars in Virgo to be quite plain, almost traditional people (of course, as always, that's just me).

posted November 08, 2011 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Oh gawd, I remember your thread about the Mars in Pisces one. This one has Virgo.

Looking at Mars alone, neither seem very compatible, ya know? I dunno, I find Mars in Virgo to be quite plain, almost traditional people (of course, as always, that's just me).

Have you ever tried other Mars in Fire people? Just curious here.

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how could anybody not? i was the biggest drama queen in the world with that thread!

i haven't thought about that! thanks for bringing it up.. since the mars falls in my fifth, i just figured it would be ok.

i don't always try to pair up by element and it's not as if i randomly pull a chart and then go hunt the person..

they're the first mars in virgo, i think..

and yeah, they are a little traditional and a little old-school.. they court, do the dinner things, stuff like that.. they were very sweet when i met them but this is someone that grew up in new york.. they're no saint and with a mercury in scorpio, i think crediting them that would only be appropriate.

there was a person i met with mars in leo.. i won't date or even get close to anyone with a mars in aries..

the mars in leo was soo insecure that they would act out at the most inopportune times and even now, i get text hissy fits from them because they feel they're being ignored; they are.. but i've also got other things to do and they've not been supportive since their moon squares their uranus; luck would have it, that my pluto opposes it.

so i dealt with their uranus/moon thing for so long before i got sick of it and they didn't expect that.

i don't care.

i know of no sagittarian mars'.

i would think that's too much sex as it would fall in my eighth house..

posted November 08, 2011 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
how could anybody not? i was the biggest drama queen in the world with that thread!

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Ahaha! I found it quite entertaining. I liked it, lol.

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
...it's not as if i randomly pull a chart and then go hunt the person..

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LOL THAT WOULD BE KINDA...BAD. "Hunt the person" lolololol.

posted November 08, 2011 09:13 PM            

they're all happy-go-lucky in their stupid message, meanwhile, i'm here mentally going ballistic and they're all 'omg, you wouldn't believe it, everything was sooo dusty, been cleaning all day and then went to dinner but didn't have my phone and i wouldn't lie to you or b.s. you or blow smoke your way or anything like that but anyway, if you're around and not busy, you're more than welcome to give me a call and as it turns out, i might not even head out on my flight tomorrow, i might the day after so.. hope to talk to you soon.. take care of yourself'

i really did just pretty much type out their entire message *sigh*

... WHAT THE F*CK DOES 'TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF' MEAN!???

i hate that!

a stupid friend with mercury in scorpio knew that if she pushed my buttons, i'd fight her for it and we argued.. soooooo much and then we'd make up by sending each other naked pictures but that's over and done with.. i remember she was very resentful over something one time and she has issues with feeling comfortable in emotional situations so when it called for it, she bailed like a bat out of hell! 'be safe'

i did not let her hear the end of it! i was going on and on and on and about when the hell was it that i became some random person that you'd tell to 'be safe' because you could care less about what happened to them.

i'm gonna take a break here.. i've been on ll all day and i've been pacing back and forth, running this through my mind like non-stop; i don't know why! but whatever..

i don't like having any blind spots.

so i'll look into everything now before it ever possibly gets to the point that something might catch me off guard.. i do it for me, and them, because i punch.. i dont hit nor am i or have i nor plan on ever being in any domestic disputes; it's just an immediate reaction.

if someone jumps out from behind the sofa to scare me, my first reaction is to hit.

posted November 08, 2011 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
LOL THAT WOULD BE KINDA...BAD. "Hunt the person" lolololol.

Well, whatever you do, I wish you the best. That, and I'll be here, ready for the next installment of my li'l Tuxy-baby's life.

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posted November 08, 2011 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
aww, pookie! u should come cuddle! i'd be up for a good cuddle fest and some pj's and fat/sugar free ice cream because i'm conscious and would keep the interest of both our looks in mind while joying the night away. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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"I could be sex, unless you want to hold hands"