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Topic: I figured out why there's such a huge lack of trust in Plutonian relationships!
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RunAroundScreaming
Knowflake Posts: 1448
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 11, 2011 10:00 PM
  
What I dont get is how people usually say that Venus-pluto does NOT indicate true love because it has so much lack of trust. WELL. If we can see the unrealistic expectations as being the root of the lack of trust, then all we have to do is realize that the person still cares it's that they aren't superhuman. And then once we have analyzed our own high standards of perfectionfor their behavior we can calm down. Does this mean that it's NOT TRUE LOVE? No why would that mean that, you know? It is true love. Lack of trust isnt based on whether it's real love or not.....IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted November 11, 2011 10:12 PM
I have to agree my first BF we had venus conjunct pluto... It was hell, the worst relationship.. Also very abusive.. But I guess we were way to young to be able to handle it.. I never loved him... I was controlled by him, and was way to young to know the difference. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
Knowflake Posts: 1448
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posted November 11, 2011 11:55 PM
Well i never said venus pluto by itself indicated true love. I think sun conjunct venus in the composite indicates true love. But if u have c. sun conjunct venus and venus-pluto aspect in synastry that doesn't automatically mean "no, it can't be true love because it's too insane, not stable enough, etc"I don't think anyone could ever lay a hand on someone they have sun conjunct venus in the composite with IP: Logged |
appleberry
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 18, 2011 11:44 PM
I have Pluto conjunct AC, seeing someone with Pluto conjunct AC, composite Pluto conjunct AC.... All in Libra. It's a trip. I love it, can't get enough of it, but sometimes he pulls back out of fear. Pluto is a ride though. No other relationship has ever compared.IP: Logged |
Mermaid
Knowflake Posts: 44
From: From the deep blue seas
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 19, 2011 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Well i never said venus pluto by itself indicated true love. I think sun conjunct venus in the composite indicates true love. But if u have c. sun conjunct venus and venus-pluto aspect in synastry that doesn't automatically mean "no, it can't be true love because it's too insane, not stable enough, etc"I don't think anyone could ever lay a hand on someone they have sun conjunct venus in the composite with
I have composite sun conjunct venus(1deg orb) with someone special and also Venus/pluto double whammy(trine and square, both 1 deg) in synastry with him.We do have our share of pluto/venus dynamics going on but the composite sun/venus conjunction helps to stabilise.We have a mutable grand cross in synastry with lots of squares in action like saturn/venus,moon/venus,moon/moon,saturn/ moon.I think the saving factor is this composite sun/venus conjunction which even in the midst of conflicts reminds us of the love we feel for each other and that we need to patch up our differences for the sake of it.We can't imagine living without loving each other  IP: Logged |
BearsArcher
Moderator Posts: 676
From: Arizona with Bear the Leo
Registered: Apr 2010
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posted November 19, 2011 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by appleberry:
I have Pluto conjunct AC, seeing someone with Pluto conjunct AC, composite Pluto conjunct AC.... All in Libra. It's a trip. I love it, can't get enough of it, but sometimes he pulls back out of fear. Pluto is a ride though. No other relationship has ever compared.
I can relate to that. I have Pluto conjunct ACS in Virgo in the 1st house. My husband also has a Virgo ACS with Pluto in his 1st house conjuncting his venus. His Venus conjuncts my Pluto and ASC in the our 1st houses but my ASC is later than his (his Leo sun falls into his 12th house). We bonded as soon as we met and got married within 6 months (that was more than 5 years ago). Trust is not an issue- we seem to know what the other thinks and does therefore lying is not an option because we just "know" each other. It's weird but that is how it works for both of us. We also have Sun trine Sun within 2 degrees and a host of other crazy karmic aspects. Maybe when two people are extremely Plutonian they understand and feel more comfortable in Pluto ruled relationships? IP: Logged |
Mblake81
Knowflake Posts: 1912
From:
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 19, 2011 01:19 AM
Insecurity.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
Knowflake Posts: 1448
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 19, 2011 02:19 AM
Bears Archer...are you completely sure about that? Lol it just sounds so hard to believe with a venus conjunct pluto aspect! wooo...rollercoaster ride! Wow, really?
Well, i have...pluto in the 1st but not conjunct my asc. And my best friend has pluto in the 1st also not conjunct her asc....
We have venus square pluto in synastry and venus trine pluto in composite, and there are lots of trust issues between us.
Maybe it's actually got to do with sun signs. She is a leo and i am a cancer so we don't inherently understand each other. Do you and your husband have compatible sun signs? IP: Logged |
frankie2912
Knowflake Posts: 302
From: yep,ks,usa
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 19, 2011 02:21 AM
For me, the original post is totally true.I am a very Plutonian person...Scorp ASC/Scorp Venus/Scorp Pluto/Pluto conjunct ASC and sextile Sun.. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
Knowflake Posts: 1448
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 19, 2011 02:25 AM
Mermaid: OMG! You have double whammy venus pluto with someone, too! omg omg . I am so excited lolol.Isn't it great? Do you want me to show you what the official description of this kind of double whammy is? I'm sure you'll like(: In love:
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You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.
In friendship:
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A powerful, compelling fascination with one another is likely to draw you together, and you may love or hate one another with an intensity that is surprising even to you! The powerful feelings that you have for each other can be used to manipulate one another; and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.
I have that with someone I have a love stellium with...not Just sun conjunct venus, but also mercury conjunct sun and venus, so it actually makes it even more loving. Awww..I wish more people did realize the true power of sun conjunct venus. It has made me the happiest of any aspect and it truly is beautiful and keeps people together ...it really is true love. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
Knowflake Posts: 1448
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 19, 2011 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
For me, the original post is totally true.I am a very Plutonian person...Scorp ASC/Scorp Venus/Scorp Pluto/Pluto conjunct ASC and sextile Sun..
Actually thinking about it... i am a plutonian person too. I have venus square pluto, sun trine pluto, and pluto in the first. I had a crush a while ago who was also pretty plutonian. He had scorpio rising, venus square pluto, and pluto in the first. And we had venus square pluto in synastry and sun square pluto in the composite, and the issues of pluto with dominance, jealousy and control and lack of trust were probably the most prominent with him than anyone else i have ever made friends with in my life. We would treat each other badly all the time and reject each other's advances just to see how much the other person cared, and would try to make each other jealous all the time...we weren't even going out. No, the struggle for dominance would've never let us get to that step. Going out was already having too much power over each other...power we didnt want the other person to have over us and over our feelings. No trust. IP: Logged |
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