posted November 12, 2011 10:59 PM            

Let's take my Venus in Aquarius. I'm supposed to be:

(1) aloof
(2) detached from my emotions
(3) unable to make relationship commitments
(4) a cheating infidel who is always unfaithful
(5) homosexual or bisexual
(6) into unorthodox sexual deviance
(7) heavily attracted to unconventional, independent, turbulent non-clinging, eccentric, freaky, liberal women
(8) desirous of friendships over relationships
(9) excellent at relating to the public and large groups
(10) blow hot or cold, shutting off my feelings in an instant.

Instead, all the stereotypes are just plain lies:

(1) I have a constant outwardly loving demeanor
(2) I'm a faithful married man, and for two decades too
(3) I married a church-going, politically conservative traditionalist with nary a nose ring nor a tattoo nor belongs to a socially deviant group, who likes Jesus, money and her guns.
(4) I am the family breadwinner, with a woman who depends fully on me for her well being.
(5) I am most definitely not homosexual or bisexual or transgender or transverstite and have so such tendencies nor inclinations
(6) lousy at relating to groups of people

That is why I am who I am, and I am unique, and a bunch of astrological signs in of themselves cannot explain who I am.

posted November 12, 2011 11:05 PM            

These are generic meanings...

posted November 12, 2011 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My issue is one of generalities. I find astrology to cast blanket stereotypes, many of which I don't fit.

Let's take my Venus in Aquarius. I'm supposed to be:

(1) aloof
(2) detached from my emotions
(3) unable to make relationship commitments
(4) a cheating infidel who is always unfaithful
(5) homosexual or bisexual
(6) into unorthodox sexual deviance
(7) heavily attracted to unconventional, independent, turbulent non-clinging, eccentric, freaky, liberal women
(8) desirous of friendships over relationships
(9) excellent at relating to the public and large groups
(10) blow hot or cold, shutting off my feelings in an instant.

Instead, all the stereotypes are just plain lies:

(1) I have a constant outwardly loving demeanor
(2) I'm a faithful married man, and for two decades too
(3) I married a church-going, politically conservative traditionalist with nary a nose ring nor a tattoo nor belongs to a socially deviant group, who likes Jesus, money and her guns.
(4) I am the family breadwinner, with a woman who depends fully on me for her well being.
(5) I am most definitely not homosexual or bisexual or transgender or transverstite and have so such tendencies nor inclinations
(6) lousy at relating to groups of people

That is why I am who I am, and I am unique, and a bunch of astrological signs in of themselves cannot explain who I am.

I know I'm prodding the hornet's nest with a stick, but so be it.

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My parents are both caps with aqua in venus and like you do not fit in the venus in aqua stereotype. I think that sun in cap has a lot do with why this is the case. My parents express their sun in aqua by having humanitarian projects that involve the collaboration of group of friends and by having lots of friends who think similar to them. My parents have meetings at their place almost weekly with this group of people for one reason or another. In their case their aqua in venus does not translate to sexual "deviance" because their sun in cap makes that energy be channeled differently, in a way that is more socially acceptable. Cap is very traditional. Both of my parents did have a long distance relationship while married and I think they pulled that long distance arrangement for 11 years bec their sun in cap makes them very committed to each other and their venus in aqua is comfortable with giving each other plenty of space.

posted November 12, 2011 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
...I think I have seen them kiss maybe twice in the 28 years that I have been alive LOL.

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posted November 13, 2011 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My issue is one of generalities. I find astrology to cast blanket stereotypes, many of which I don't fit.

Let's take my Venus in Aquarius. I'm supposed to be:

(1) aloof
(2) detached from my emotions
(3) unable to make relationship commitments
(4) a cheating infidel who is always unfaithful
(5) homosexual or bisexual
(6) into unorthodox sexual deviance
(7) heavily attracted to unconventional, independent, turbulent non-clinging, eccentric, freaky, liberal women
(8) desirous of friendships over relationships
(9) excellent at relating to the public and large groups
(10) blow hot or cold, shutting off my feelings in an instant.

Instead, all the stereotypes are just plain lies:

(1) I have a constant outwardly loving demeanor
(2) I'm a faithful married man, and for two decades too
(3) I married a church-going, politically conservative traditionalist with nary a nose ring nor a tattoo nor belongs to a socially deviant group, who likes Jesus, money and her guns.
(4) I am the family breadwinner, with a woman who depends fully on me for her well being.
(5) I am most definitely not homosexual or bisexual or transgender or transverstite and have so such tendencies nor inclinations
(6) lousy at relating to groups of people

That is why I am who I am, and I am unique, and a bunch of astrological signs in of themselves cannot explain who I am.

I know I'm prodding the hornet's nest with a stick, but so be it.

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For one, I think I remember you saying you've been medically diagnosed with Asp(b?)erger's, so you're at a different advantage as far as relating to people go. Secondly, I find Aquarius with Capricorn influences (like your sun) tend towards more Capricorn behavior. They're more ethical and less radical people, less about being unconventional and The Revolution and more about boundaries, and doing the right thing. My Loss Prevention officer at work is an Aquarius with 3 Capricorn placements (Moon, Mercury, and Venus if memory serves me), my dad is Aquarius with Capricorn moon and also works for the law and is a very responsible, affable, well-respected conservative (more adjectives...) person. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it has to do with your Capricorn placements.

My friend who's an Aquarius with a Cancer moon and Venus in Pisces is a nice guy but not logical. He's stubborn and tends to react emotionally in every day conversation (not boo-hooey emotionally but with TONS more feeling than necessary) if he doesn't agree, or he's making a point. He's nitpicky, yes, but has no patience and for some odd reason doesn't care how he makes others feel... I definitely like Aquarius/Capricorns better.

posted November 13, 2011 01:55 AM            

Real astrology is much more subtle than this… the birth chart is a combination of all the planets, each with it’s own sign and house placement… and also the aspects between the planets, and the placements of the angles… the natal chart shows the pattern of the personality, and our personal ‘rhythm’ as we navigate through the world… and no planet/sign placement can guarantee anything, but it does show potential…

I’ve been studying astrology since the age of 13 and have many years of experience and observation under my belt and I can tell you that for sure ASTROLOGY WORKS. You are just getting started on your learning journey, and may be easily confused or thrown off by details that irk you, or trying to reconcile one part of your chart with the rest of it… give it time…. Study and observe and you’ll start to see how the patterns fit, it’s not something that can be forced…the more you study and observe the more sophisticated your understanding becomes… even today I’m amazed at how accurate astrology is with predicting people’s temperaments, and tendencies… and how I’m affected by transits ect.

For instance… your Venus in Aqua is trine your Gemini Moon… this stabilizes your emotions and inclines you towards being warm and easygoing for the most part. It also shows that although you are not cold…you do tend to function very much through your mind, and tend to rationalize things, and try to take an objective perspective on things… I’ve noticed that Air Moon and Venus people often believe very much in things like fairness and equality… and try to give most people in their lives the benefit of the doubt. They are usually courteous to everyone until they are given a good reason not to be… Air Moon/Venus types also strongly value communication and friendship with a partner and tend to be open and supportive with their mates… Also Aqua Venus often enjoys having a partner who is very different from themselves in some way… an oddly matched coupling wouldn’t bother them as much as it would others, in fact they kind of get a kick out of it… you are part of an interracial/inter-cultural marriage, and I can totally see how this fit’s Venus in Aqua.. Also your Air Venus/Moon shows that you have a very lively intelligence and are very curious about a lot of things… you tend to just drink in information…

posted November 13, 2011 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Your Venus/Aquarius is modified by the house it is in and the aspects it makes.

If you had Venus conjunct Uranus then that list would be accurate
But you don't...Be glad

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THIS NAILS IT ACCURATELY...HIGHLY AGREED LALALINDA

posted November 13, 2011 05:52 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My issue is one of generalities. I find astrology to cast blanket stereotypes, many of which I don't fit.

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That is why I am who I am, and I am unique, and a bunch of astrological signs in of themselves cannot explain who I am.

I know I'm prodding the hornet's nest with a stick, but so be it.

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Keep in mind the energies astrology works with are not general adjective lists. They are vast and dynamic concepts. If we see a picture of a snowscape, filled with dead trees, and gray skies, many of us would associate that picture with winter. Though the general principals of winter are similar, the reality is very different depending on location, date, and time. The same is true for astrology. People write “random planet” in “random sign” acts in “random way”, because the are providing general information to a large group of individuals. The hope is for individuals to find familiarity and associations in those lists, until they are able to grasp each energy directly.

If you read something which doesn't fit your personality, chances are that part of your personality is influenced by other factors, and is therefor more complex then the general description. Both astrology and humans are part of nature and as a result, we are very complex.

posted November 13, 2011 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
My parents are caps with venus in aqua and they are warm and affectionate towards me but not big on public displays of affection with each other. They are aqua in venus in that sense. I think I have seen them kiss maybe twice in the 28 years that I have been alive LOL.

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I think my teenage son has seen his parents boinking more than he cares to have seen lol

posted November 13, 2011 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hannarama:
For one, I think I remember you saying you've been medically diagnosed with Asp(b?)erger's, so you're at a different advantage as far as relating to people go.

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Folks with Asperger's manifest their disability differently. Some cannot look straight and maintain eye contact. Some cannot even maintain any successful human relationships. Some can speak to groups but cannot relate to groups (which is who I am). We come from all walks of life.

posted November 13, 2011 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
For instance… your Venus in Aqua is trine your Gemini Moon… this stabilizes your emotions and inclines you towards being warm and easygoing for the most part. It also shows that although you are not cold…you do tend to function very much through your mind, and tend to rationalize things, and try to take an objective perspective on things… I’ve noticed that Air Moon and Venus people often believe very much in things like fairness and equality… and try to give most people in their lives the benefit of the doubt. They are usually courteous to everyone until they are given a good reason not to be… Air Moon/Venus types also strongly value communication and friendship with a partner and tend to be open and supportive with their mates… Also Aqua Venus often enjoys having a partner who is very different from themselves in some way… an oddly matched coupling wouldn’t bother them as much as it would others, in fact they kind of get a kick out of it… you are part of an interracial/inter-cultural marriage, and I can totally see how this fit’s Venus in Aqua.. Also your Air Venus/Moon shows that you have a very lively intelligence and are very curious about a lot of things… you tend to just drink in information…

If I were you I’d just keep an open mind and continue learning…

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posted November 13, 2011 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Your Venus/Aquarius is modified by the house it is in and the aspects it makes.

If you had Venus conjunct Uranus then that list would be accurate
But you don't...Be glad

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posted November 13, 2011 11:44 AM            

If there are seeming discrepancies, they can always be weighed so that the outcome is correct and WILL reveal the person. The problem is that there are few wonderful astrologers who are that good, it seems. They are around, but they charge a professional fee and should because to get to that point, one must devote oneself. As such, one should be compensated, in kind.

That is my 2 cents.

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