posted November 16, 2011 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
On a positive note however, she is one of the most trustworthy, reliable, and "what you see is what you get" kind of people I know.

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Xiiro that's very unique to find someone whose chart corresponds with yours to really "get" one another. Yeah there's really no gray area with most in that placement. Call a spade a spade basically. Its never to be a "bully" its the overall composition of the package and deliverance. Then you chip down to the very core eventually, and are fortunate to see there's more than what meets the eye!

posted November 16, 2011 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
My best friend has Saturn in the 12th House conjunct ASC. I have seen the battle you mention. On a positive note however, she is one of the most trustworthy, reliable, and "what you see is what you get" kind of people I know.

If I had to choose someone to be stranded on an island with it would be her, without hesitation.

I can tell her Saturn NEVER sleeps, but one of the many up sides is how she embraces "time for play" when "time for work" is over. She is the only other person I know who can party as hard as I can, and then go to work all cracked out and endure the day.

LOL I love that b!tch.

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Husband has saturn conjunct sun and if I had to be stranded in an island it would be with him too. My chances of surviving are higher with him by my side. I have to give it to him! He will do what he has to survive!

posted November 16, 2011 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:

So, I am a fan of Saturn. What is wrong with being responsible and discriminating? What is wrong with looking for the real deal, instead of the shiny imitation?

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posted November 16, 2011 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Husband has saturn conjunct sun and if I had to be stranded in an island it would be him too. My chances of surviving are higher with him by my side. I have to give it to him! He will do what he has to survive!

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Amelia, how was it like with your husband having his saturn conjuncting his sun? Was he more "reserved" in his self expressions?

posted November 16, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:
Amelia, how was it like with your husband having his saturn conjuncting his sun? Was he more "reserved" in his self expressions?

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In his case he is not reserved bec he has venus in leo which likes to shine and his NN is in Leo too which likes to shine and he is a libra sun so he likes shining by talking and showing off his intellect .

posted November 16, 2011 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
My personal experience with Saturn in Scorpio:

I have Saturn in Scorpio myself and I feel that I had to overcome fear of betrayal and learn the hard lesson of letting go bec Saturn is Scorpio can become obsessive and overly attached to an idea or outcome. I have had to learn to not become attach to outcomes and overcome my fear of betrayal as Saturn in Scorpio has high ideals of love and is very loyal so can be very disappointed when loyalty is not returned in same intensity. I have overcome my Saturn lessons and now I am working on my northnode lessons among others.

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posted November 17, 2011 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I have saturn in libra and im deeply insecure with how I look, but not sure if thats saturn in libra or chiron conj asc in taurus??

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That wouldn't be your saturn in libra...Saturn in libra is exalted. That would be the chiron conjunct ascendent.

posted November 17, 2011 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Heartless:
sometimes i have this sinking feeling (beset by self-doubt/worth etc) but of course no one would see that on the surface. is this Saturn or moon aspect that makes me feel this way?

Saturn conjunction Mars
Moon square Pluto

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posted November 17, 2011 03:53 PM            

whoaaa... could this be it? --> Neptune opposition Mars.

posted November 18, 2011 01:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Heartless:
thanks, amelia28! thankfully it only happens once in a while. but when it does i feel sick to my stomach.

whoaaa... could this be it? --> Neptune opposition Mars.

Sag Neptune is the only thing in my H2 (Scorp).

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Yes that is probably it!

The second house deals with money matters, what you value and self worth. I use to have neptune in the second on progressed chart and OMG during that time I was bad at managing my money even though I have cap in the second bc it been in neptune resulted in having foggy thinking with money matters, luckily my neptune is now in the 3rd on progressed chart.

posted November 18, 2011 01:55 AM            

The Navel chakra is about asserting yourself in a group. When it is open, you feel in control and you have sufficient self esteem.

When the Navel chakra is under-active, you tend to be passive and indecisive. You're probably timid and don't get what you want.

If this chakra is over-active, you are domineering and probably even aggressive.

Reference: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/introduction.php

posted November 18, 2011 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Yes that is probably it!

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thanks again. that explains it