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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 21, 2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost all my friends are women. I don't get along with men. Well, I don't like almost everything men talk about: football, basketball, baseball, hockey, in addition to all the crass things like posteriors, b00bs, kitties. I don't like strip clubs. I don't like sports stadiums. I am neither effiminate nor gay. So, all my close friends are women and I relate to them much better. Why? I prefer talking about homes, shopping, food, children, marriage and relationships. I can talk to them without getting territorial or aggressive.

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posted November 21, 2011 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Platero -

"I have Venus in Scorpio, Sun in Libra, Moon in Cancer."

I can see how you probably attract people without even trying, yes? I would imagine the intellectual need comes from your Libra/Scorpio placement, and perhaps people see you as weak or a pushover which (including the Scorpio in your chart) can be a magnet for unfortunate things like harassment and assault. I notice Scorpios/influenced people tend to attract the seedy underbelly of society a lot easier than the preppy family next door, you know what I mean? There can be a darkness about them that's familiar (not saying this about you but the Scorpios I know).

I've had so-so experiences with gay guys. The ones I knew were very feminine and girly like which I found equally interesting comparing to my Scorpio friend who gets along better with straight men than anything. They didn't like her either. I didn't really care for the gay guys because I found them to be shallow, self-absorbed and incredibly selfish, even if they were my friends, and even if they were hilarious. Then again that was some years ago. My last gay guy friend was my ex-boyfriend (and you wonder why we broke up. -_- ) but sadly he turned out to be insane in the year I knew him.

I agree about wanting to skim the marriage/babies conversation in favor of more in-depth topics. I find intellectual women are harder for me to relate to, but stay-at-home wannabes are for me as well. I've always fell in the middle of nearly everything in my life which is something I can't figure out why but I'm sure Libra is involved somewhere. I live in the bible belt... do you know how hard it is to find a NORMAL and not-creepy person who is interested in astrology and tarot? I practically have to teach my friends about it in hopes they'll humor me when I'm dying to share a new insight.

Do you find women are more hostile to you before they know you're more career-oriented (which I would then guess is based on your looks, you somehow threaten them) or after? And also, what are your moon/venus aspects?

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posted November 21, 2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like them both.

I like men for their male side
I like women for their female side

Women can be fun because they are competitive in different ways to men.


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posted November 21, 2011 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Almost all my friends are women. I don't get along with men. Well, I don't like almost everything men talk about: football, basketball, baseball, hockey, in addition to all the crass things like posteriors, b00bs, kitties. I don't like strip clubs. I don't like sports stadiums. I am neither effiminate nor gay. So, all my close friends are women and I relate to them much better. Why? I prefer talking about homes, shopping, food, children, marriage and relationships. I can talk to them without getting territorial or aggressive.

And you have Venus in Aquarius? This doesn't surprise me, honestly. I've found Aquarius men have a much more feminine soul about them than other signs. My Aquarius guy friend doesn't have many male friends either. He has a lot of girl friends and it's very easy for him to woo women.

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posted November 21, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannarama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfox:
I like them both.

I like men for their male side
I like women for their female side

Women can be fun because they are competitive in different ways to men.


What are your signs?

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posted November 21, 2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I get along very well with both genders... I have a pretty equal number of female and male friends.

HOWEVER, that being said, I tend to have much deeper friendships with men. Only certain types of men though, as I am also not interested in sports, etc. I am extremely intelligent and I love a good debate, and I think this is a large part of the appeal. I hate to say it, but many women don't do well with any type of conflict (even if it's just a friendly one). To me, I'm not necessarily attached to my position on an emotional level (just on a mental one), so it doesn't bother me. Also, I get along better with men because I don't only like stereotypically female things. I love being outdoors, hiking, whitewater rafting, etc. I'm just adventurous.

I find that though I do get along well on the surface with most women, they often feel threatened by me (for whatever reason), though I am not intentionally throwing that vibe out. So, except for with a select few, I tend to keep them at arm's length, as I've had many stab me in the back. It doesn't help that some of the male 'friends' that I've had in the past will sometimes flirt with other women either to make me jealous or to make the other women jealous. Luckily I'm usually on to them, so I just ignore it, but not all women are that savvy...

My placements are:

Venus in Virgo (9th)
-conjunct MC and Sun
-sextile Saturn and Pluto
- T-square Jupiter/Uranus and Chiron

Mars in Leo (9th)
-Fire Grand Trine with Aries Moon(5th) and Jupiter/Uranus (1st)
-Square Saturn
-Sextile Mercury
-Sextile Chiron

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posted November 21, 2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naturalbeige     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get along with men more often than women, like 75% of the time. If I go according to my chart, I have Mars in Capricorn, Pluto in Scorpio, Sun Opposite Moon, Mercury sextile Saturn, Pluto conjunct Venus and Midheaven, and Mars sextile Jupiter that can explain this.

I get picked on by women, especially those my age, because they were jealous of my success and they don't think I'm feminine enough. When I started college, my female roommates had a problem with my Reservoir Dogs poster on my side of the dorm, that I study to the point I burn out, and that I don't act feminine enough.

The roommates were more outgoing than I was, and they also had a problem that I didn't talk much and listen to 80s college and goth rock.

In the end, I realize that the issue wasn't me... it was them.

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posted November 21, 2011 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannarama:
And you have Venus in Aquarius? This doesn't surprise me, honestly. I've found Aquarius men have a much more feminine soul about them than other signs. My Aquarius guy friend doesn't have many male friends either. He has a lot of girl friends and it's very easy for him to woo women.


Yes, I have Venus in Aquarius.

Please don't misunderstand. It can get irritating, and its doubly difficult as a married man because there can be misunderstanding of intent from third parties, and I've had to cut a few apron strings because of a few women friends getting a tad too "comfortable," whether they are married or not.

Its been even worse when the woman is single and I'm not. Going to a club/pub/hotel lobby would seem out of the question. It would be a nightmare bumping into a third party and having to explain myself.

Unless a guy has an understanding wife, as I do, it can also be rough with the explanations of why almost 100% of my best friends are women, and how I can manage to go out with a woman friend and remain platonic.

Words and expressions also get in the way. Guys can high five and hand slap each other all day long. Women want hugs and kisses, and they also want verbal assurances. Things can get dicey very quickly for a married man when words of camraderie and platonic affection get deep and emotional. Or compliments get overboard. Or when a friend wants a friendly kiss goodbye/goodnight (as in on the lips) and the tension suddenly increases tenfold. Or if a woman starts to touch my hand, or touches my shoulder. How far do I go before removing the woman's hand? Its very complicated.

I used to cringe at the ILY thing, but I've become immune. Yeah. ILY. Whatever. lol

Would you allow your husband to take his close friend to dinner and come home at bedtime? Of course not. Yet, I sometimes have to tell my wife: "honey, I'm going to dinner with the girls (never singularly during dinner!)" Therefore, I have active lunch appointments with my women friends. It helps that a couple of them are so rich that they don't think twice about sharing/flipping the bill, especially since women like fine dining!

The upside is that I had a ton of dates when I was single. My dating life was highly active and I never felt more broke

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posted November 21, 2011 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have two ridiculous aspects: Venus Trine Moon and Venus Trine Jupiter. These are said to make me in tune with the feminine nature.

I'm sure there's even more that makes me not see eye to eye with men.

Now, before the jokes about being effeminate come flying, I'm a martial arts black belt and a qualified Army Airborne Ranger.

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posted November 22, 2011 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find the men to be Aquarius, Leo, some Sag men. Virgo. (An Arien with a Cappy Mars)

Women are mostly earth or water signs and not the fire/air signs. My closest gals are a cancer with a cancer moon, a virgo with a pisces moon, another cancer with an aquarius moon.

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posted November 22, 2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 22, 2011 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
casually I get along with both but on a deep level I get along with men more or with women who are their own thing, treat other women as equals, are smart and are not catty or threatened by strong women and women who are different.

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posted November 22, 2011 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Oh and My venus conjuncts mars which trines neptune sextiles pluto and my sun and moon square neptune so based on this I should get along with both sexes. However I do have pluto and saturn in the 11th!!!! That must be it as I don't have neptune, moon or venus in the 11th but I have pluto and saturn which are both strong planets that explains why the women I click with tend to be although feminine in appearance quite in touch with their intellectual side, confident, open minded and ok with diversity or it could just be my ascendent conjunct uranus the reason why. What do you think?

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posted November 22, 2011 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by downtomars:

It has been bad, really bad. I was bullied, had private phone conversations recorded, threatened, had stuff stolen from me, gossiped about...blech, yikes...

you poor thing.........that is messed up! I could never betray a friend. The worst I can do is stop seeing a friend and If I do that is probably bc the girl is the type to seek or attract a lot of drama and after a while my NN in taurus gets tired of that.

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posted November 22, 2011 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 22, 2011 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Almost all my friends are women. I don't get along with men. Well, I don't like almost everything men talk about: football, basketball, baseball, hockey, in addition to all the crass things like posteriors, b00bs, kitties. I don't like strip clubs. I don't like sports stadiums. I am neither effiminate nor gay. So, all my close friends are women and I relate to them much better. Why? I prefer talking about homes, shopping, food, children, marriage and relationships. I can talk to them without getting territorial or aggressive.

ohh how cute!! I Have never dated a guy into sports. Dont attract the sporty types and I am glad bc is not my thing either. there is a lot of straight guys out there who are in touch with their feminine side and are masculine looking and manly at the same time thankfully. the types I attract are intellectual, are good cooks and are artistic! love that type.

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posted November 22, 2011 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hang out mostly with women, although most women are pretty inherently hostile toward me. At this point I figure it's got something to do with having the moon in aspect to pluto, and/or having Lilith right at the top of my chart, conjunct my chart ruler. I've pretty much come to expect that now and it doesn't really phase me anymore.


you come off like you have a strong personality and you are very blunt so I think this is why but I like you bc of those two things, its genuine!!

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posted November 22, 2011 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 22, 2011 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What are your signs?

Moon taurus
Venus aquarius

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posted November 22, 2011 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ohh how cute!! I Have never dated a guy into sports. Dont attract the sporty types and I am glad bc is not my thing either.

Hahaha. Didn't say that I'm not into sports. Its just that I don't have interest in watching for hours on TV and then talking all day about it, or sitting at the stadium for hours and hours. I much rather do one hour of intense workout and then move on to something else more constructive in my eyes, like cooking or gardening How many guys do you know that can sew, crochet and knit

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posted November 22, 2011 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Almost all my friends are women. I don't get along with men. Well, I don't like almost everything men talk about: football, basketball, baseball, hockey, in addition to all the crass things like posteriors, b00bs, kitties. I don't like strip clubs. I don't like sports stadiums. I am neither effiminate nor gay. So, all my close friends are women and I relate to them much better. Why? I prefer talking about homes, shopping, food, children, marriage and relationships. I can talk to them without getting territorial or aggressive.

LOL me too! i have moon aspecting venus too and venus trining jupiter..

one of my best friends is cap but he likes those things i think..

i like martial arts/ fighting tho and women/relationships lol but that's about it hehe! those are the only "manly" conversations i'm into. i never go along when it's strip club night. i also dunno how to play poker or even most card games..

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posted November 22, 2011 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm into martial arts as well, but I don't know about liking it although I'm a veteran. I'm into soldiering as well, having been in the military. I like speed and horsepower, so that's masculine. Strangely, my wife is into cars as much as I am.

Other than that, I enjoy housekeeping matters, cooking, children, family, relationship, fashion, jewelry, etc., which is most things the majority of women talk about.

I just don't get along too well with most men. Usually ends up in argument or territorial egotistical conflict. That is why I have zero close male friends.

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posted November 22, 2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never understood the concept of strip clubs anyway. Seems to me like a tease without fulfillment, so it's a total waste of time. Paying... Except there's no sex... What is the point? Talk about being a loser with having to pay for sex, except now the guy is a double loser when there isn't any. Wouldn't it be more productive to just get it on with your significant other, or engage in something else that's fun? Or stuff the dollar bills into a wallet and then go shopping!

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posted November 22, 2011 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm into martial arts as well, but I don't know about liking it although I'm a veteran. I'm into soldiering as well, having been in the military. I like speed and horsepower, so that's masculine. Strangely, my wife is into cars as much as I am.


i mean i can watch some form of combat on tv. a basketball game i understand it and play well but can't watch 1 every week and be really into it with stats and all. i like martial arts as exercise. i don't get bored with something like muay thai or arnis for example..

i like speed too. tho i like fast boats over fast cars just by a tad bit.

with strip clubs i think my partners are hotter for the most part. ..and +1 on the shopping LOL!

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