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mintgirl123
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posted November 23, 2011 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by malicefey:
My bf is a scorpio sun, so I guess possessiveness is a part of him. However, he doesn't like to show the possessiveness unless he feels threatened. He has a big problem when I'm in trouble and anyone OTHER than him helping out will probably feel some nasty remark or stinging comment from him.

He likes say "My Anita" all the time, subconsciously, whatever it is, it just rolls off his tongue.

He doesn't want to be overwhelmingly possessive and jealous..he tries very hard to control that, as he is afraid he'll lose me. He is getting clingy but denies the fact that he is and tries not to be clingy. He doesn't like me going out late but doesnt directly control me not to go out, but I did anyways, to a party. The outcome of that was silence for about 2 hours before I left and 2 text messages from him asking if I was okay about 3 hours into the party. Hint: get the hell home.

The next day he'll make a comment about how I was out till 3am at a party. When I asked him if he didn't want me to go originally he said yes, and that he doesn't like me going out late.

He tries to control possessiveness to the max..but he finds other ways to let me know. If I was any more brain dead and not read-between-his-lines this relationship would've ended a long time ago.

He has pluto conj sun conj saturn natally..heavy aspects indeed PLUS his pluto sits right on my ascendant and closely to my venus.


Think alot of guys are kinda uneasy when their gfs go out to places where there's alot of drinking lol and they're not there.
But as long as they don't force you to do things you don't want to, it's all good =).

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appleberry
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posted November 23, 2011 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno represents Hera (if I remember correctly), the wife of Zeus... she became so controlling and possessive because he was so unfaithful... But she is also the asteroid of marriage... Isis (42) and Osiris are the asteroids of wife and husband respectively... said to be the mark of soulmates reunited when in conjunction (though this does not ensure marriage or a long-lasting relationship, if I remember well).

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posted November 23, 2011 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first thing I noticed about your chart is that it has a "Kite" aspect pattern. I forget what that means but it is about trines and sextiles so I assume it will be good.

I can't read much either but I see the blue chiron in the parter's 7th house... that doesn't look like a good thing... like blue is bringing up relationship wounds for red?

Red moon in blue's 5th house of creativity and children... so is red bringing these aspects out in blue's emotions?

The red saturn conjunct blue's MC... that's a restriction on the public persona...?

Red's Sun/Chiron conjunction in blue's 4th house of home... seems like red would really want to settle with blue but also brings out old family wounds for blue?

So... I am just a student... don't take anything I say too dearly... others I welcome to disagree where they see fit, as I can learn from that...

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posted November 23, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by appleberry:
The first thing I noticed about your chart is that it has a "Kite" aspect pattern. I forget what that means but it is about trines and sextiles so I assume it will be good.

I can't read much either but I see the blue chiron in the parter's 7th house... that doesn't look like a good thing... like blue is bringing up relationship wounds for red?

Red moon in blue's 5th house of creativity and children... so is red bringing these aspects out in blue's emotions?

The red saturn conjunct blue's MC... that's a restriction on the public persona...?

Red's Sun/Chiron conjunction in blue's 4th house of home... seems like red would really want to settle with blue but also brings out old family wounds for blue?

So... I am just a student... don't take anything I say too dearly... others I welcome to disagree where they see fit, as I can learn from that...


Red = me
Blue = him

Just to clarify LOL!

Okay!
About blue bringing up relationship wounds for red..
You might have a point. Do you mind expanding on that? I sense this to be true though, it's a feeling. Based on observation. I don't know what his wounds are.. trust is involved, rejection and abandonment are involved. He acts a certain way almost as if I am a stand in for his previous relationships. Meaning, he hasn't let go of certain past things and for some reason I happen to bring it out unintentionally.. 

red moon in blues 5th house of children and creativity - by that do you mean does he bring out my repressed childhood and dreams of creativity? Yes he does!

Red's Sun/Chiron conjunction in blue's 4th house of home... seems like red would really want to settle with blue but also brings out old family wounds for blue?
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Yes this is definite. He does want to settle down with me, especially with children. However it does bring out family wounds for me. My Chiron in Leo in house 7.. It's like children and settlement is a huge thing for him. I like the idea however it brings out pain for me relating to my family, childhood etc. 

What does a kite look like?
And for a student you are quite exceptional! Where do you study?

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appleberry
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posted November 23, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol! Well I'm glad I was able to say a little bit that rings true with you. I am studying astrology... just on my own... usually I use the charts of people I know to try to read but I like to try with people I have no real knowledge of because I won't be biased about what I say... so it helps me learn about my instincts when reading a chart. I am pretty elementary level at astrology in a sense but it's coming along.

I have Neptune in Sag in the 3rd house... and Mars (the ruler of my 7th house) in my 9th house. I think that gives some intuition about things, especially relationships.

I have Moon conjunct Chiron and Sun conjunct Vertex and DC in the 7th house... I think that just makes my whole life revolve around relationships... both mine and other peoples... plus, some have said it gives me an ability to help people with their relationships.

Anyway, about the Kite... this is a good site because it shows the image of the Kite as well... you can have a read at what they say and look at your chart...(You have a Grand Trine as well but it extends into a Kite)
http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandtrine_kite.shtml

Here's another you can read:
http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html


Anyway... yes, I was thinking that he wants to settle down and have children with you and that you are would like this relationship to be the one... but I think you feel hesitant... maybe because you sense the Venus opposed to Uranus/Neptune... maybe you doubt the reality and stability of the relationship... maybe you are thinking that it is too good to be true.... but also the Uranus/Neptune conjunct with Mars... that activates it even more I think... I'm sort of wondering about the Mars in the 12th house too because I can't understand if it would come out in a negative or positive way... I think it could give you fear that you might be walking down the wrong path... especially conjunct Uranus...some people think that Uranus/Mars hard aspects can be bad, even violent but I think a conjunction isn't so bad... My over-all feeling about seeing this chart is that it is a relationship that has difficulties like any other but I think it has potential to be exactly what you want it to be... a real family... I think that Chiron in Leo landing in the 7th house for both of you makes me feel like children will be very healing for the old wounds that you both have received in previous relationships. Children could maybe be the point that brings healing, stability and a grounded feeling to the relationship.

Overall, there seems to be so much more good than bad in this relationship, and although your fears are valid, the challenges are there to bring strength to the relationship as well. I think as time passes, this can be a relationship that gets better and better.

Hmmm... about him, maybe you can confirm... He seems like he is very masculine but creative and maybe his work is something to do with his mind and emotions? He likes sensitive and feminine women? Sexually, he is very earthy, maybe a little practical? He has luck with money in creative fields? His destiny seems to be in a field of communicating... I think he has a strong feeling to have children but I think he will be a nurturing father...

Anyway, please don't ever forget that I am just a student of this... so enjoy the interpretations if you relate to them but please don't make life decisions based on what I say

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appleberry
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posted November 24, 2011 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, another thing I noticed... his Pluto square your Sun/Mercury... so you are going to go through a transformation of who you are- your ego and mind for having him in your life... but I think that he is having an affect on your career and destiny... it might feel negative for you, but I am not getting the feeling that it is totally negative..... just causing a feeling of instability regarding your destiny.

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lindisfarne
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posted November 25, 2011 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very on point with most of this. 

Does my his Venus oppose my Neptune/Capricorn? I do feel hesitant, even though I like him, always have, I feel right with him like we can and are teaching one another a lot about ourselves, his Pluto squaring my mercury and sun already is active he teaches me a lot(patience and slow and steady wins the race is already one of the lessons he teaches me) But i do feel hesitant, the relationship is still new we've been official for what 3 months now? He's made his plans very clear with me which is something I like I dont like games he gets straight to the point - another lesson he teaches me he teaches me not to play games and to quit being impulsive with my emotions - he's made it direct about children and settling, I assume anyone with cap placements in personal planets or whatever is all about seriousness/long-term commitment which he is, his sun is in house 5, and Venus in house 7 meaning he is the commitment kind of guy which is very true. But my hesitance is there, no idea why, the whole thinking it's too good to be real is also true, I've been in very bad abusive relationships so the fact that I met someone/had someone all along that was the opposite is new for me = my hesitance.

Mars in the 12th house? Who's Mars is in house 12? He has Mars in house 1 and I have it in house 5. Typo perhaps?

Yes he really wants children lol! I do too sort of I'm only hesitant because that's where my wound is -family/childhood so I'm very afraid to have a child as it would bring those wounds. He does do work as it relates to his emotions he is in the medical field he's a nurse, in the works to be a doctor he says he likes it cause it relates to his childhood also helps him "heal" his own wounds.

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appleberry
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posted November 28, 2011 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, in your chart your Capricorn Neptune/Uranus conjunction is opposing his Venus in Cancer; it's also conjunct his Mars. I get the feeling that this relationship is kind of exciting for him. Maybe you are the excitement he has been waiting for. That's not a very realistic thing for him... that can wear over time... whatever happens, make sure there is time for the evolution of everything before committing completely. He might have illusions about the excitement you create for him.

No, not a typo- his mars, the red mars is in the blue's 12th house... In synastry, you want to also look at which of your houses his planets fall in- as if they were in your chart, and vice versa for his planets in yours. So another example is that his Jupiter is landing in your 1st house... therefor he has an expansion on your ego and essential energy... he will help you evolve in that area. His Pluto is landing in your 8th house... that will cause transformation in your sexuality. I get the feeling that the two of you are both experiencing sex in a different way because of each other... you are also putting your Juptier in his house of sexuality so you are causing expansion for him in that area of his life... maybe he wasn't as sexual before or didn't express his sexuality as much as you are helping him to?

Mars is a strong sign to be in such a house I think. Your 12th house is about secrets, enemies, karma, the hidden, things you cannot see yourself... he's activating all of this in a house you already have Uranus, Neptune, Sun and Mercury...on a good note... the 12th house is a house of where apparently others can see about you what you cannot see about yourself... so I think with his mars in that house... maybe he can see so much of who you really are that you cannot see for yourself... and he's still willing to commit... that's a good thing. But with such a powerful planet there, with so may planets... maybe you feel too 'exposed' in a way you haven't with other people... that could be frightening too.

Well, I wouldn't have guessed nurse/doctor for him... but it is clear that he is a sensitive soul. The 6th house does include the medical field (health/routine care) though and that's where his moon is, together with his Mercury- so his thoughts and emotions could definitely have an attraction to health in the 6th house. Saturn in the 10th also gives him practicality and determination in the career area, which he would need to study medicine.
His MC is Scorpio. This placement looks for power in the external world and likes to test the limits of how much power... so I guess I can see how this could apply to being a doctor.

Follow your gut... Doubt there's any reason to end the relationship based on these fears... but I would put a limit on some things... regardless of any signs, 3 months is short and though it's good to talk about what you both want for the future, my advice would be to let a full year of being together happen before you make any kind of promises.

Hope that was helpful!

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