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Topic: People with an abundance of water signs
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Lonake
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posted November 25, 2011 09:03 PM
  
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
But why would you hold their lack of intuitiveness against them instead of discussing it with them and teaching them for next time (whether that 'next time' be with you or someone else)?
Well if one could teach intuition then that argument would be valid.
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Libreo
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posted November 25, 2011 09:57 PM
My eldest daughter has Scorpio rising conjunct moon and Pisces sun. My youngest daughter has Aries rising conjunct moon and Pisces sun, and I am air sun, fire moon conjunct Venus and earth mars. I don't understand my eldest daughter. As she approaches her teens I'm having more and more difficulty with the negativity and the intense emotions.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted November 26, 2011 03:48 AM
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hannaramaa
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posted November 26, 2011 03:58 AM
Okay, I know planetary placements are necessary to get a full jist of someone's personality and whathaveyou but what can you tell me about the romantic nature of a Cancer with Mars Venus in Cancer, Mars in Leo? The gentleman in question and I lip locked tonight and it took me off guard a little 'cause it's only the 2nd time meeting him. He had his hands all over me the entire night (as in putting his arm around me, rubbing my neck, holding my hand, his hand around my waist) and I was feeling claustrophobic... like "Get off! I just met you!" I suppose that Mars must be in the 1st or something 'cause he does NOT seem like a Cancer with a Scorpio moon... well, until I flat out told him he was being a bit pushy. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted November 26, 2011 04:56 AM
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DayandNight21
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posted November 26, 2011 07:10 AM
It is easy to generalise in the size of these posts and it annoys me when people have a mental agenda and won't allow others their views. Like on a course the other day the woman kept saying 'don't go too deep' and what happened to me. I kept wanting to stop her and say yes but because something happened to you does not make it universal and on this course you as the trainer should be talking in universals. Came away thinking what a huge ego she had. Yes she was super smart but also a cold hard personality in it for the money blatantly. No I was not jealous of her people did question her approach cause it needed warmth and the human touch more. I have a fire air chart and excess water is a disaster for me. I don't like to generalise but will keep to the limits set by these short spaces and say that excess water needs an earth ballast to stop the emotional manipulation just as excess air would need some fire to stop the mental manipulation. I was thinking the course trainer was an air sign excess (mental manipulation) with gemini prominent (personal, me, my experience, my agenda etc).
Guess am far more skeptical of things than I used to be. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted November 26, 2011 07:23 AM
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DayandNight21
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posted November 26, 2011 07:36 AM
I really annoys me when some people think they can spout on and on and on and that their viewpoint is the only one to have. I do see excess of one element as a problem but like to approach things from different perspectives. You said 'i can't stand the excess' you manipulate my words here, I totally disagree. I did not enjoy a course the other day as every time something was said to this woman leading the course (it was not an astology one) she kept it on her agenda and was didactic. Then she said she liked interaction, people like this make my blood boil! If you like interaction, don't lead a course in a didactic way. The personal signs are aries, taurus, gemini and as the manipulation was both personal and mental I put it down to the fact that she must have had a focus on that sign and an imbalance of element. yes I have a fire air chart in terms of signs but dig a bit deeper and i am balanced accoring to pullens delineation. Yes I believe there are character traits you can pick up on someone with an excess in one element. Yes I do believe having a lot of air does me good as the interpretation ' you are objective and liberal in your thinking' rings true for me. Nothing wrong with that my self esteem levels are good. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted November 26, 2011 07:40 AM
I like people who are humane, funny, warm, social, caring, intimate, friendly, positive, constructive etc etci dislike people who are one pointed, who jump to conclusions, who are shallow, vain etc etc IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted November 26, 2011 07:42 AM
I don't hate all people with an excess of water signs that is a generalisation and I wouldn't have got my masters if I made huge generalisations like that.what I am saying is that some people with an excess of water than I have known in real life have had characteristics like emotional manipulation, it doesn't mean i can't like water signs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted November 26, 2011 08:39 AM
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DayandNight21
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posted November 26, 2011 08:45 AM
Good, glad we can move on. Must get off the internet for a while now.
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Libreo
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posted December 01, 2011 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
As both a former teenage girl and as someone with Scorp influence (Venus and Pluto) plus Cancer (moon) and Pisces (Jupiter), I would say that something that would have helped me more at the time would have been to have known that people still loved me and cared about me even when I was being intense and emotional. A lot of people treat being intense, expressive, and emotional as these horrible diseases that have to be cured, and that is a painful thing to experience as a water-influenced person: to be constantly told why you're not OK or acceptable. Something that I did have as a teen, though, was a lot of after-school activities. I had the academic teams (three of them) to satisfy my air sun and Mercury and art stuff (two of those) to help me get the emotions out, plus get me out of the house. I would draw a lot during that time too, mostly with hard pastels--the chalk-like kind, not the soft oil ones. So, if your daughter has a creative gift or even just an interest in something artistic or literary--art, music, drama club, anything in which she is free to let the emotions out completely in a safe and healthy way--that might be something worth exploring. I don't mean to tell you how to raise your kids or anything; just that as a water-influenced sun sign person, those things personally helped me a lot and having a healthy outlet is very healing and stress-relieving.
Very much appreciated RegardesPlatero, thankyou. She is only 13 and maybe I shouldn't yet but I do educate her on astrology a little bit in order to help her understand her own emotions. She knows that she is sensitive and that other people aren't necessarily putting her down sometimes. I often have to remind her of this though, and she seems relieved when I do. I kind of wish I learned more about MYself when I was her age in order to interpret other people, and my reactions to them, better. And you have given me an idea, she seems to be quite gifted with photography, something I did from age 16 to 24 for a living so maybe we can spend a little mother daughter time nurturing her gift. I might buy her a digital camera for christmas. Thankyou for your advice.
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Libreo
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posted December 02, 2011 12:40 AM
.....and sorry I didn't see this and respond to it sooner. (Hoping you get an apology from someone else too!)IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted December 02, 2011 05:32 AM
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RedScorp
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posted December 02, 2011 05:52 AM
Out of 10 planets, 5 are water for me. No water houses, though.I think I like to nurture or whatever. I wanna listen to you, I wanna hear your problems and your thoughts and your ideas. I'd love to be the wind under your wings. BUUUUT I know that all of that isn't necessary and not everyone wants that. I really only do all that when needed, not all the time, yo. SO, I dunno. I just like it when people are happy. C: If they are, all the better, I'll flit about and talk to other people too. If not, then I'm available...! IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 02, 2011 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[B] Libras for some weird reason tend to do GREAT with Leos in general. I still haven't cracked that code yet but I think it's something to do with them having a lot of "Scorpio" personality, and Leos being a Cancer in Vedic astrology hence they match up in the middle.
Honestly I think it's more basic than that; they're both social, somewhat-flamboyant signs. Makes sense that on some level they 'get' one another. (speaking as someone with a leo sun, libra moon, who has a libra sun, leo moon friend) IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 02, 2011 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
... in their personal planets. Do you find them to be people pleasers to the Nth degree, or pretty selfish? I see the selfish side to water signs but it doesn't deter me from being their friends. For me, an Aries with absolutely no water in her chart (except Pluto) I find them to be very comforting and nurturing. [b]I wish they understood they don't always have to 'nurture' me though, that they can just relax. Water signs want to relax, don't they?! I'd be exhausted and cranky if I nurtured people all day... but that leads me to another thought! Would water signs be exhausted being a Fire sign for a day? What do Fire signs do that would exhaust water signs?[/B]
What they do that annoys me, is a lot of them expect everyone to constantly go around emoting all the time and telling all their innermost thoughts, deepest feelings, and secrets, because they're that way. And a lot of times if you don't give them that, they actually try to demand it, feel totally entitled and well within their rights to do so, and if you don't, they immediately assume you have something to hide, are a bad person, or are fake.
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hannaramaa
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posted December 02, 2011 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
What they do that annoys me, is a lot of them expect everyone to constantly go around emoting all the time and telling all their innermost thoughts, deepest feelings, and secrets, because they're that way. And a lot of times if you don't give them that, they actually try to demand it, feel totally entitled and well within their rights to do so, and if you don't, they immediately assume you have something to hide, are a bad person, or are fake.
Water signs or fire signs? IP: Logged |
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