posted November 25, 2011 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
AT THE END Iam always right ; )

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posted November 25, 2011 01:25 AM            

Should I read where Neptune is (fifth) or where my Sun is (third)?

posted November 25, 2011 01:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Wait 12 house ruler? I'm not sure what that is... Sorry I just know my dominant house is 11. would that be it?

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Uh, where does your twelfth house start? Like, the line between your eleventh and twelfth.

For example: my twelfth house starts in Leo. The sun rules Leo. My sun is in the third. I read for third.

posted November 25, 2011 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Uh, where does your twelfth house start? Like, the line between your eleventh and twelfth.

For example: my twelfth house starts in Leo. The sun rules Leo. My sun is in the third. I read for third.

Helpful?

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posted November 25, 2011 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
Yeah my sun is in the 11th house in Gemini. thanks. also its no where near 12 house. Ugggh I get chills thinking about how unfortunate for me that would be for me.

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Whoa whoa wait...I think there's a misunderstandin' here.

posted November 25, 2011 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Whoa whoa wait...I think there's a misunderstandin' here.

You have a Cancer ascendant, right? So the border between your eleventh house and twelfth house must in like, Gemini (Taurus and Cancer possible, but a bit of a stretch).

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posted November 25, 2011 05:11 AM            

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12th house ruler in 7th houses....
This is the house of official partners, relationships, association, enemies and what you reflect onto others. Also afflicted planets in libra or seventh house may show You can also be having persecution complex or you can find yourself divorcing a lot.
So never get married, abandon your partner before it harms you, destroy your enemies or abandon them. Never have a partner and learn to live by yourself. Abandon your relationships.

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posted November 25, 2011 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
What's weird to me is that all the interpretations basically encourage people to do nothing with their lives or even self-destructive things...but somehow whoever wrote that thinks that's the path to getting to where you need to be or bettering yourself?

*headscratch*

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posted November 25, 2011 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That's what I thought!

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posted March 24, 2016 06:21 AM            

Somehow going against the tide is where one will find the answers. The things that make us suffer most are also the ones that somehow we let go of the last. By not allowing some things to go, we're not allowing other things in.

posted March 24, 2016 07:00 AM            

"12th house ruler in 11th house.
this is the house of groups, friends, goals, organization and direction in life and humanity.. Also this is the house of outside events that you cannot control or choose. Look for a significant prior lifetime where you went against convention and expressed yourself in a free and unhindered manner. You may have had a prior life as a social worker, union organizer, scientist, political activist, academic or have participated in revolt or uprising. In ancient times you may have been an astrologer or alchemist. You may have been ostracized or imprisoned for your beliefs or actions. You suffered from injustice or betrayel from your friends or from authorites over you...
Abandon your friends, abandon all who is supporting you, first make them follow and support you and then abandon them. You are abandoned in your past lives, now you have every right to revenge it. Make your supporters dissapointed. abandon your dreams and direction in life. Never have a purpose. "

posted March 24, 2016 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
12th house ruler in 7th houses....
This is the house of official partners, relationships, association, enemies and what you reflect onto others. Also afflicted planets in libra or seventh house may show You can also be having persecution complex or you can find yourself divorcing a lot.
So never get married, abandon your partner before it harms you, destroy your enemies or abandon them. Never have a partner and learn to live by yourself. Abandon your relationships.

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Umm... this makes me want to die. I mean I already WANT to, but if that is really how I should live my life then I should kill myself right now cause life is pointless ^ if that is what I should do. F*ck I can't wait to die.

posted March 24, 2016 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:

12th house ruler in 12th house.
this is the house of oneself, in being you're own worst enemy. It is a very emotional Karma, indicating self-destruction and hidden events. Hidden events are not readily visible and can effect your life in the long term, because a decision or commitment was not made when it should have. Also there can be Karma or suffering with enemies, mankind, institutions, and hospitals. This is also the house of finding your own god, being alone and feeling complete with universe at the sametime..
It can also show suffering from emotions.

I dont have an answer to write here for this since it is very paradoxical.

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I really have a lot of 12th activity. It's kind of crazy.

This is very true though!
It's neat to look back on my life so far and to be able to see the progression. I suffered, and suffered a lot largely due to a negative, distorted view of myself.

posted March 25, 2016 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
12th house ruler in 12th house.
this is the house of oneself, in being you're own worst enemy. It is a very emotional Karma, indicating self-destruction and hidden events. Hidden events are not readily visible and can effect your life in the long term, because a decision or commitment was not made when it should have. Also there can be Karma or suffering with enemies, mankind, institutions, and hospitals. This is also the house of finding your own god, being alone and feeling complete with universe at the sametime..
It can also show suffering from emotions.

I dont have an answer to write here for this since it is very paradoxical.

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I have a Scorpio Asc. My chart ruler is Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th house (12th house is ruled by scorpio).

posted March 26, 2016 10:14 AM            

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12th house ruler in 9th house
it is the house of philosophy, freedom, adventure, higher learning, religion, justice, travel or lack of it, and sometimes being anchored to ones' life, work, job, family, home and responsibilities. Sometimes this house is associated with happiness so afflicted planets in sag or 9th may make a person moody.
Abandon your beliefs, your big thoughts, abandon your freedom. Travel so much or never travel. Change the way how you think. Run away from your responsibilities, Abandon your sense of adventure and create new ones...Never do "Master" and stay with university or high school degree.

12th house ruler in 10th house.
You suffered through your status, reputation, career, ambitions, external aspects of life, authority over you, practicality etc..

Abandon your ambitions, Dont try to be famous, never focus on your career, abandon your successes, abandon your authorities, make them dissapointed over you, Never listen what they say.

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12th house ruler is Pisces, Neptune is in 9th.

I feel like I'm always reading descriptions or interpretations sounding like this because my entire chart always comes back to my 9th house. It makes me feel uneasy at times because I didn't finish college, although I do my own studies; and I don't really travel, although I would jump at the opportunity.

posted March 28, 2016 05:05 AM            

extremely accurate. But my asteroid karma is also located in my 7th house making a semi-square to my Venus so that might add to the influence.