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BeholdAstarte
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posted December 01, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GEMinI88:
I'm new to astrology and bit confused--What do you mean by 'This Sag' if you said she has an "Aqua Sun"? Isn't she an Aqua then?

oops i ment aqua rising. sorry for the confusion.

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posted December 02, 2011 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my dad is a 5 planet sag stellium. ima taurus sun and venus. people say often that i got his laid back-ness.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jupiter in sag and jupiter in pisces produces laid back people.

The sag suns I have known do have an explosive temper although I have been witness rather than provocateur. Some have been serious/philosophical and some fun/humourous. For instance one sag stellium I know of a similar age got a hand trapped in a taxi door after a night out and posted it on the internet with a tongue in cheek comment about what someone had done to him. He is not the type to go looking for revenge at all. His saturn square pluto does make him a harder/more demanding sagittarius than other 'strong in sagittarius' people I have encountered.

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posted December 03, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely feel like the explosive temper can be true, but it takes a lot of provocation and, or mistreatment...two 'quick routes' are disloyalty and manipulation, but manipulation is probably #1 for me, personaly.

I feel like Aries is fire cracker explosive. Leo can smolder. Sag will erupt like a volcano submerged beneath a placid surface under the right conditions. And I don't think there is a sign that can (or should want to) match that level of danger! Lol!

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posted December 03, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And as a sidebar, I've had the chance to be in a room full of fire signs--it was so much fun, exciting and relaxing all at once! Then a little air came in, completely destoyed the dynamic. Not because she was air, but because she was a nightmare of a person!

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posted December 03, 2011 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always read Sag is the most sensitive of the fire signs. I think a lot of sag girls whoa re rly happy go lucky and happy just act that way as a front. But they really are deep philosophical thinkers who feel that their real way of being is quiet and sensitive. Lol i've just met a lot of sag girls who tell me this. They say they feel that that happy go lucky them isnt what they feel is the real them at all. But anyway, i get what u mean

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posted December 03, 2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GEMinI88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sags to me have a "Unique" Anger compared to other Fire signs and Scorpio.
Their Anger is adorable/funny to me--almost like it's not HUMAN anger, but a PUPPY BARK type anger. It blows over so quickly, then they get all apologetic--it's kinda weird and FUNNY! LOL!
Example- if Leo or Aries is MAD, they are ****** and may not ever forgive, which is more 'normal' HUMAN behavior. Sags, after they cool down, they're all Happy Go Lucky again--like it never happened. It's like a PUPPY Howling like crazy at strangers--then it's all good again..

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posted December 03, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ LAWLZ

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posted December 03, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GEMinI88:
Sags to me have a "Unique" Anger compared to other Fire signs and Scorpio.
Their Anger is adorable/funny to me--almost like it's not HUMAN anger, but a PUPPY BARK type anger. It blows over so quickly, then they get all apologetic--it's kinda weird and FUNNY! LOL!
Example- if Leo or Aries is MAD, they are ****** and may not ever forgive, which is more 'normal' HUMAN behavior. Sags, after they cool down, they're all Happy Go Lucky again--like it never happened. It's like a PUPPY Howling like crazy at strangers--then it's all good again..


Lol! I like that 'Unique Anger' title. But--what Sags do you know!? Jk, Haha! Sounds like the Sags you are talking about have gotten annoyed/frustrated, not angry or mad. When I get annoyed it is definitely how you describe though. People always say "why are you mad," and I say "I'm not, I'm just frustrated." I try not to let people see me get mad. I get embarrassed and often I will apologize because it is that awful. It just seems so silly to behave that way.

The ones I know (despite what the generalisations say), actually take a while to get over things that make them mad--they can't hide it, but they definitely DO get over it eventually. It is like a philosophical thing, really. If they let it go like 'meh,' might be more annoyance...at least for me. When they are, it is so out of character that most people do not expect it, and get afraid, half-[wo]man half-beast, right? Lol!

The Scorpio 'anger/revenge' I've experienced makes me laugh. I just...I can't help it. I've dealt with the whole lot their variations. But then again, Sag./Scorp. have some kind of karmic vibration. So I'm always like "pipe down" and normally they do. But maybe it is because they sense they've met their match!

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posted December 03, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I've always read Sag is the most sensitive of the fire signs. I think a lot of sag girls whoa re rly happy go lucky and happy just act that way as a front. But they really are deep philosophical thinkers who feel that their real way of being is quiet and sensitive. Lol i've just met a lot of sag girls who tell me this. They say they feel that that happy go lucky them isnt what they feel is the real them at all. But anyway, i get what u mean

This is actually pretty true. I think 'generally speaking' many of Sags try to see the best in the world, almost to the point of naivete...perhaps especially with the moon. Will try to see the positive in the most unimaginable circumstances. Talk about transmutation and transcendence, eh? The 'front' is kind of...not like 'fake it till you make it' but, more of...idk, similar to that, just don't like the word fake. Haha, unsurprisingly, right?

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posted December 03, 2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The 'front' is kind of...not like 'fake it till you make it' but, more of...idk, similar to that, just don't like the word fake. Haha, unsurprisingly, right?

I read that they are about seeing boundless opportunities rather than one tiny setback (well, to them it's tiny while to an earth sign like me it is daunting and complex...I envy y'all, seriously) in the grand scheme of things.

By the way, I remember you were asking about Chiron in the 8th. I have that too and it manifests in a few ways but they all come down to one thing: giving away power in a relationship (Scorpio stuff). Hope we can chat about that sometime in the Asteroids section.

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posted December 03, 2011 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag may be the most mature of the Fire Signs. It seems to be, to me.

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posted December 03, 2011 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, but since there a mutable sign they can be flakey.

As with everything I've seen some really great sags and some really bad ones.

The good ones I've meet are genuine good souls and have a sense of Sag fairness and treat everyone equally.

The bad ones I've encountered whould have a sense of entitlement.

Case in point Nostradamus vs Jeff Skilling, I'm sure Nostradamus wanted to help warn society.

Jeff Skilling on the other hand was a greddy sag that felt he deserved all that wealth. I don't think anyone whould look at him the same again after Enron.

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posted December 03, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GEMinI88     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireWire:

The Scorpio 'anger/revenge' I've experienced makes me laugh. I just...I can't help it. I've dealt with the whole lot their variations. But then again, Sag./Scorp. have some kind of karmic vibration. So I'm always like "pipe down" and normally they do. But maybe it is because they sense they've met their match!

The LOL part for you to Scorpio is how I feel (Gem) to Sag. It's b/c deep down I don't think they're REALLY REALLY mad. If they are you can still talk to them days later- but Leo or Scorpio sometimes it's like, "You're DONE." I know about 17 Saggie people--all have a heart of gold and usually can't stay mad.
Actually-Sags prob.can NOT forgive CHEATING
Since you're a Sag, have you ever dated a Scorpio? If so, what was your experience like?

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posted December 03, 2011 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GEMinI88:
The LOL part for you to Scorpio is how I feel (Gem) to Sag. It's b/c deep down I don't think they're REALLY REALLY mad. If they are you can still talk to them days later- but Leo or Scorpio sometimes it's like, "You're DONE." I know about 17 Saggie people--all have a heart of gold and usually can't stay mad.
Actually-Sags prob.can NOT forgive CHEATING
[b] Since you're a Sag, have you ever dated a Scorpio?
If so, what was your experience like? [/B]

Lol. Well, to be fair my SN is in Scorp. and I have a few strong Scorp/Pluto placements (I think 3-4). What should I say about the Scorp./Sag. 'nonplatonic' relationship or dynamic...

Good lessons, of course. But, I'd rather take guitar lessons or learn to play the kazoo. Friends with quite a few of them though, relatives also...etc. The dynamics were opposite of the generalisations for the signs...though, there were no elaborate plots for revenge, death and destruction. And I think I was the one with the poison (I imagine Sags carrying a sack of all of the weapons of the zodiac, actually). I thrive off of loyalty, honesty and true intimacy. It just wasn't there, and I was lost in a Neptunian haze of delusion and fantasy. But I can't blame this on 'the sign' really.

If another encounter of the loving kind (lol) came up, I believe it would make me think twice. And just as a sidebar--when I am done, believe me--I am done! I can forgive, and forget you--literally. It becomes very philosophical for me (did I say that already, lol). But as you said, its normally when I feel betrayed. But I'm also of the decan of Sag that is more akin to Leo, so lets keep this in mind.

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