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posted November 29, 2011 08:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lindisfarne:
[b]@ Cap

You mentioned sun conjunct pluto and basic Pluto energy of a man in a abusive depiction...

What about if Pluto square sun? Can that come out to? Can the guy sometimes be prone to possessiveness thinking he owns the sun and no one else does? h

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Scrappydog was actually saying that it was iQ who said that. And I agree it will happen if the woman disowns her solar energy. Then she will probably attract a man whose planets link to her Sun-Pluto square. Or if he has Sun-Pluto square and her planets aspect that configuration then yeah he will tend to be like that.

So short answer to your question: YES =)[/B][/QUOTE]

how do you disown your solar energy?

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posted November 29, 2011 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
how do you disown your solar energy?

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By not acting like your Sun sign.

Let's say that someone is a Scorpio Sun with a Sagittarius ascendant conjunct Venus in Sagittarius sextile Moon in Libra. Her Sagittarius ascendant reflects the role that her family wanted her to play while she was growing up. Perhaps they thought that she should be happy and optimistic all the time because she's the baby of the family? Anyway, she grows up embracing her feminine side (Moon in Libra and Venus in Sagittarius) because these conform to her family's expectations of what a girl should act like. She suppresses all of her Scorpio intensity. She ends up getting together with guys whose planets have strong synastry to her Scorpio Sun, so that she has an outlet for all that disowned energy.

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posted November 30, 2011 01:01 PM            

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Chiron in Taurus indicates insecurity and a lack of a solid value structure. These people may hold onto things and people long after they should have let go. They long for love but devalue it, instead chasing after what brings security or physical pleasure. They may be collectors, financial planners or investors, and they should have talents in these areas. They may tend to have more than one lover at a time, or more than one source of income, since they are reluctant to put all their eggs in one basket. Depending on the house of Chiron and the placement of Venus they could be venal or selfish, but what they ultimately seek is love, comfort and security. Their healing path includes learning to trust the flow of life, and to let go of things and people when necessary. http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Chiron_in_Taurus

I have chiron in tauras in sidereal.

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posted November 30, 2011 02:27 PM            

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Two of the abusive men I have been with had sun square pluto, I don't think that aspect alone will necasarily make someone abusive, but it will contribute greatly with other aspects, the energy of it can be very controling and even cruel.

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posted November 30, 2011 02:29 PM            

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^I have chiron in taurus in the 1st conj asc and this rings very true with me.

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posted November 30, 2011 02:40 PM            

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Taurus Chiron.. interesting........

what about Gem Chiron.. Amelia do you think sidereal chiron is more accurate?

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posted November 30, 2011 02:42 PM            

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I do not LIKE to be with abusive men... but I had my share of abuses - physical, emotional and attempts for sexual assault.

I have Dejanira conj Mercury, ruler of 5H and 8H.

DC ruler (Moon) exactly conj Neptune (self-sacrificing)

Unaspected duet Venus conj Chiron (this one is prone to suffer in love, but eventually to heal with love too)

And last but not least, NESSUS in the 7H sq Mars, sq Pluto, sq Saturn, opposite Lilith in the 1st (Grand Square).

If it weren't for the softy aspects (Moon-Neptune, Venus-Chiron) that spell VICTIM, I'd probably be a serial killer (the abuser, esp with an exact Mars-Pluto opp).

My exes Nessus was sq my Dejanira and I almost ended my life a month ago after finding out he's having a baby with another woman (didn't cheat though, it happened before he met me), just when he was about to propose.

So no, I do not LIKE being abused... but it is some sort of karma that I must burn or learn from or God knows why...

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