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mintgirl123
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posted November 29, 2011 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think, gem venus could probably be loyal IF they had their venus in a very tight trine/conjunction to saturn (0-1 degrees max). Like have alot of saturn aspects (to sun and moon and mars) and maybe a very loyal mars sign as well as having the venus fall in the 4th house or 7th house. And no, having a fixed moon does not negate their cheating tendencies =(

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posted November 29, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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there is one thing i noticed about the sysatry....it looks really bad..i see more red than blue

i think the only thing that kept this guy around for 5 years is the saturn conjunct saturn


Ouch..perhaps you are right.

If there are more red lines than blue lines does that mean its more one-sided?

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posted November 29, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I happens

Tell me about your venus conjunct saturn!


well, let me think about this

i think this is one of the aspects in my chart that helps me want to settle..i hear its a good aspect, or rather, potentially good

not all conjunctions are good, they can be bad, and i think the bad part about venus conjunct saturn is like a hopeless romantic, and i think that is what venus opposite saturn might be like..it might be worse considering the venus placement

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posted November 29, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ouch..perhaps you are right.

If there are more red lines than blue lines does that mean its more one-sided?


not really one sided...just a lot of tension...did they fight a lot?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I think, gem venus could probably be loyal IF they had their venus in a very tight trine/conjunction to saturn (0-1 degrees max). Like have alot of saturn aspects (to sun and moon and mars) and maybe a very loyal mars sign as well as having the venus fall in the 4th house or 7th house. And no, having a fixed moon does not negate their cheating tendencies =(

My current bf has merc/ven in sag, but he has sun conj saturn in scorp and mars in cap. That's a pretty settling and more serious tone and I feel it overrides the sag in him.

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posted November 29, 2011 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
not really one sided...just a lot of tension...did they fight a lot?


Ya they would fight but over stupid little things..and in the end the girl would have to go, sit down, and talk to him.

He, on the other hand, is REALLY bad with finances. My friend would try so hard to help him control his spending but he just never listens to her..and when he gets screwed over with money, he gets mad at her, saying stuff like "Why didn't you look out for me?!?!?!" etc....

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posted November 29, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
Ya they would fight but over stupid little things..and in the end the girl would have to go, sit down, and talk to him.

He, on the other hand, is REALLY bad with finances. My friend would try so hard to help him control his spending but he just never listens to her..and when he gets screwed over with money, he gets mad at her, saying stuff like "Why didn't you look out for me?!?!?!" etc....


*sharp inhale* just what i thought

they do have some redeeming qualities, like the moons trining saturns, but they would only stay together if they worked at the relationship

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL haha I think gems are alittle impulsive thus might result in not being the smartest with money.

He sounds like a loser, good riddance I say.

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posted November 29, 2011 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL haha I think gems are alittle impulsive thus might result in not being the smartest with money.

He sounds like a loser, good riddance I say.


mintgirl, what are your planet rulers?

Just curious you sounded just like me that last sentence hahaha

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posted November 29, 2011 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries rising
virgo sun and mars (6th house *conjuncting*)
Libra moon, venus mercury *all conjuncting* lol (7th house)
Pluto in 8th-Scorp
Cancer Jupiter
Cappy outer planets

What about you?

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posted November 29, 2011 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Aries rising
virgo sun and mars (6th house *conjuncting*)
Libra moon, venus mercury *all conjuncting* lol (7th house)
Pluto in 8th-Scorp
Cancer Jupiter
Cappy outer planets

What about you?


oh hey, my sun is in the 6th house too

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yay, do you find yourself being kinda of a perfectionist and quite a workaholic at times?

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posted November 29, 2011 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ yay, do you find yourself being kinda of a perfectionist and quite a workaholic at times?

actually no....but i'll do whatever to please the customers...if i cant, i feel bad, but i'm learning to get over it

edit: but i will work for hours and hours without a break...today i worked for 8 straight hours without a bite to eat

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wait...would that be considered a workaholic??? LOL

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ no I meant like perfectionist in general, not like during work.
And lol! Yeah I have worked 10+ hours without food. Why eat when you're on a roll? lol

and ^ yeah lol! Pretty much aye. I think it's good that I have my mars in the 6th, makes me pretty focused when I need to be.

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posted November 29, 2011 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ no I meant like perfectionist in general, not like during work.
And lol! Yeah I have worked 10+ hours without food. Why eat when you're on a roll? lol

a perfectionist? no

and i dont eat because i'm on a role, i eat because we would be busy or its truck day and i dont want a mess all over the store and refuse to eat until all the boxes are unpacked, the frames are on the shelves, the overstock is put away, the trash is thrown away and the boxes are crushed...all while trying to take a persons custom framing order, lol

edit: and being a backup cashier for when there is a line

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted November 29, 2011 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey. My wife and I are both Gemini Moons. We flirt all the time. Its the context and the intentions of the flirting that matter. BS conversation leading to nothing appears harmless to me.. shrug.

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posted November 29, 2011 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKarma360     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Gem and Moon Gem. Definitely NOT a flirt in any way, shape or form. Flirting for me, has only led to *trouble*. Maybe it's the Venus square Pluto. I tend to attract an awful lot of creeps, or real clingy ones straight away that make me nervous.

Definitely do have the mentality that the "grass is greener." Learned the hard way that it isn't necessarily so. Definitely like to feel a bit free. Not always be with someone 24/7

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posted November 29, 2011 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both my boyfriend and I have Gemini Venus. I have Gemini Merc... We're both very settled down together nor have either one of us ever cheated on our significant other. If anything, before we met each other, we both just had a string of flings and flirts - nothing more. The moment we met each other, we instantly become an old couple bickering at each other and finishing each other's sentences.

I often think that the only people who understand "Mercurial" (Mercury/Gemini influenced) individuals are other Mercurial individuals. "It's a twin thing."

What really bugs me is that others are very quick to judge a Gemini Venus as fickle or not loyal. Just because we don't complete surrender our soul to you does not mean that we're not loyal. I see it as sort of deranged to completely concede your whole mind and soul to a relationship, yet this is what I perceive many others to believe as "true love". I think it's just... disturbing that some people have the nerve to call me fickle when all I want is someone who understands my need for individuality. I don't want someone in my life who needs to know every thought that goes through my mind. Brain ninjas need not to apply!

I told this story before somewhere else on the board a few weeks back. When I first moved to NY, I would always give a quick smile at strangers that I would pass by on the subway or elevator. It's a really simple gesture that I guess is only considered "just friendly" in the Midwest or the South. A pleasantry. I started to notice that the women would always give me strange looks like I was being "too nice" and the guys would think I was flirting with them or something! Once a guy came up to me and said, "I couldn't help notice that you smiled at me." I didn't really know what to say back but say, "Yes, but I didn't mean anything by it." The guy just gave me a confused look while I quickly scuttled off the subway. It wasn't even my stop! I just didn't know what to say or do! I was just smiling! But I'm willing to guess that that guy on the subway thought I was just a weirdo flirt simply because he misunderstood my intentions.

I also think that sometimes people get so desperate for love or a relationship that they take any sort of pleasantry as flirtation and build a whole subjective narrative from that one action... but that's a topic for another thread.

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posted November 29, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ see that's the thing. Alot of venus in gemini's can only do flings, and they find it really hard to settle down. You guys are lucky cos both of you have venus in the same sign so I guess it helps with stability, but generally it does gem venuses are flighty. People don't just say they are for kicks, it's from experiences o_O. They have issues committing in general.
The whole 'leading a double life'/ having 2-3 partners is sth that's very prevalent from what I've seen. They do it really well too- the juggling.

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posted November 30, 2011 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have to admit when I was younger I did a lot of juggling between the different guys I was dating (it was college, stop judging me haha), and with that comes the territory of taking on a different persona for each person. I definitely believe everyone is a little different in every relationship. It's only natural as everyone is their own individual with a history to be taken into account when forming one's habits and rituals within the relationship.

However, I do think Gemini Venus has the ability to adapt more readily to different personas and lifestyles, and many people who are more steadfast find it to be unnerving.

With that said, once I've settled, I've settled. Same with the bf, who is a Cancer as well. Haha, I guess when you've been around the block (so to say), you sort of just want to sit down and watch the History Channel with the one you love the most.

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posted November 30, 2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ lol the ex that screwed me up had a cancer sun, and gem venus merc and he was a liar and a cheater. And yeah, the different persona thing is another thing that kinda freaks me out. How can you do that, isn't it tiring??

When you mean you were juggling guys, was it like non exclusive dating? Or were you like cheating??

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posted November 30, 2011 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was non-exclusive dating with guys who wanted the same thing. I can't deal with the drama and guilt that comes with cheating. I never necessarily changed who I was or my personality per say. I would usually adopt a certain way of speaking and manner of presentation according to whomever I was with at the time. If I was around the Virgo (gosh, I miss him), I would be a bit more laid back but we would have very intelligent conversation. When I was with the Pisces, I would dress cute (he loved it when I was a bit more ultra feminine), but he wasn't too smart... so I would try to bring up more simple things to talk about. That's all.

Cancer men tend to have a reputation on this forum . They are hard to pin down (Cancer is a sign of ups and downs, ebbs and flows) and we're not exactly direct either. I will admit that we are fairly needy when it comes to personal security. Our life lesson is to grow above that by building security within ourselves, to not rely on our shell to protect our softness within. Some under-evolved individuals *cough*the men*cough* use whatever they can get to make themselves feel more secure about their looks, their sexual capabilities, etc - rather than finding something to build upon. Of course, this is the way it is with A LOT of young men. It seems to manifest ten-fold in Cancer males regardless of Venus placement... *shrug*

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posted November 30, 2011 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer the topic question in a nutshell?

Nope. They cannot. loool

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posted November 30, 2011 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Aries rising
virgo sun and mars (6th house *conjuncting*)
Libra moon, venus mercury *all conjuncting* lol (7th house)
Pluto in 8th-Scorp
Cancer Jupiter
Cappy outer planets

What about you?


I'm also a Libra moon, but merc/venus in scorpio (DUN DUN DUN) Libra sun

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