posted December 01, 2011 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Its good to be different evolution strives on diversity....if everyone is the same no progress will happen and evolution will stagnate is how I see it.

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Sure, I'll go with that. I do my own thing out of boredom. I live in Oklahoma and here it's alll Boomer Sooner everything (well, Sports everything really) and the girls are cute little 5'5" peaches and cream, tan, with those sparkling Fleur De Lis symbols on their shirt and cowboy boots thrown in there somewhere, like it's just YAWN city. I'm an Aries with Gemini rising... I belong in the center of Time Square or something.

posted December 01, 2011 06:59 PM            

What happened was that she got into a car accident, and the woman who hit her told her that it's "okay to not call the police, we can just go to the police station separately". My mom was in a hurry, and because there was obvious damage to the side of her car, she went home.

Lo, and behold, today she went to the police station and the lady said that my mother smashed into the side of her. (The cars were driving parallel) Now, my mother is crazy... but she's not a liar... And the lady was driving a Hyundai Elantra. A coupe. My mother drives a SUV. There is a significant difference between my mother ramming her box frame Xterra into an Elantra, than an Elantra into a Xterra. There's also damage across the left side of her car. It makes more sense that the Elantra side swiped the Xterra because 1) the Xterra's front left headlight is in perfect condition. No scratches. If the Elantra was going straight and the Xterra was driving at an angle into the Elantra, there would be a SIGNIFICANT amount of damage since the Xterra is 3 TIMES larger in size and her headlights are perfect. Not even a scratch. There would be at least damage. It's all Junior High Physics.

I told her to tell the police that, and then she started to tell me that she doesn't need my help, etc etc. All I said back was, "Why did you drag me into this then? Why am I standing in our cold garage trying to figure out this stupid problem for you. You should have had the police come to the scene when it happened in the first place!"

posted December 01, 2011 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Saturn in 12th. My relationship with my father has been a constant source of tension all my life. We don't see eye to eye at all. I came to America half the world away to get far away from him. So, he is my silent nemisis. I don't see why a mother can't be your enemy.

My Saturn and Venus are both Aquarius in House 12. My Sun, Mars and Mercury are Capricorn in House 10.

Capriquarius, it's scary how similar our struggles are given some similar Capricorn and Aquarius planets.

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My father also wanted me to be a banker, btw. I-banking....very Capricorn. He's a Pisces but has Capricorn rising and Saturn, his ruling planet, in the critical 29th degree. Combine that with Mars in Aries square Uranus in Cancer (explosive temper and physically violent) and he scares the @#$#@@$# out of everyone.

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Father is indicated by Sun,primarily.

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I know a guy that has moon in the 12th and he is a parasite as a result of the relationship with his neglectful poisonous mother. He doesn't have disability but claims he does to collect money from government, has a problem with drugs. Attracts crazy chicks to his life...his last girlfriend stabbed him about something trivial and he didn't call the police on her. He is lazy but is intellectual and wanted to go to school for which his mother completely discouraged him and did not support him on this. Very sad! Usually I feel most people can overcome things but I get this feeling that with him he will never change. He leaved in my house for free for three months which is around when I started becoming restless in my relationship. I wanted to help him but should have not let hubby bring his friend in, I learned my lesson. Hubby was not that close to him but wanted to help him since he was homeless himself for a week at some point in his life and thought he could use an assistant but this kid is super lazy. I feel bad for him but it was a real bad idea to bring him in our house. He is now staying with another friend. That kids mother is the definition of having a mother who is your enemy.

You know a lot of about astrology....love reading your insights.

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Thanks for letting me know my posts are helpful! I learned a lot from reading the past threads here so it's good to know I'm givin back.

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Capriaquarius - I have Moon in the 12th and Venus (11H) squaring Saturn in the 7th. All my life I've felt my mother wanted me to be a carbon copy of her, however I'm very frank and outspoken, she usually sees this as opposition and takes it personally and wants to argue when it isn't. During Thanksgiving I mentioned casually I wish I could go to school for metaphysics and she sighed and whined "Why do you always have to be different? Can't you just go to school, join a sorority, laugh...and get married and have babies?"
I said "Well, we moved out of Utah about 10 years ago, and it's not the 1950's anymore. How far back do you want to go Mom, I mean can we still vote?"

I mean really, the 'different' thing really stung.

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If she had some metaphysical knowledge herself, she would know better than to push and pressure an Aries with Taurus Moon if she wants those grandkids. Aries doesn't take orders and Taurus hates being pushed.

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
[B]Gemini Moon + Cancer Mercury = the biggest headache of my life.

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posted December 01, 2011 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I don't know about your papa, but mine was inflicting on me what my psychotic grandma (his mom, and he fittingly has an out-of-sign Moon-Saturn trine) did to him.

My father also wanted me to be a banker, btw. I-banking....very Capricorn. He's a Pisces but has Capricorn rising and Saturn, his ruling planet, in the critical 29th degree. Combine that with Mars in Aries square Uranus in Cancer (explosive temper and physically violent) and he scares the @#$#@@$# out of everyone.

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Now its starting to get freaky. My dad's mom was also psychotic and she hated my mom and thus hated me. My dad was very much momma's boy and therefore he couldn't stand me as well.

As much as I can't get along with him, my dad is still a model of accomplishment that I do look upwards to. My dad led a very hard life and succeeded against all odds. He was a banker. Yes, I-banker (Like your dad). His dad was also a banker. His dad's dad was also a banker. Its in the genes I guess.

My dad's a Pisces Sun (Like your dad!) with a Capricorn Ascendant (Like you dad!) and Capricorn North Node (as in very Capricorn). His Mars is Aries (Like your dad!) and his Venus is also Aquarius. His Saturn in Pisces. His Mercury is Aquarius. Jupiter in Saggitarius. Uranus in Taurus. Mars in House 4, Sun in 3, Jupiter in 12, Venus in 2. March 1, 1936. Explosive temper like a powder keg! (Like your dad!) He used to throw things out of his office room at his staff and yell at them down the whole floor, plus fire people on the spot, complete with profanity laced speech. Back then, the boss was also the emperor and could do anything he wanted.

posted December 02, 2011 02:42 AM            

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wow lmfao this is now a therapy session. I believe capricorns are soooo tough and wise because of situations like this. i think crap gets thrown at us because we can handle this. I am glad everyone is sharing their storie. i have moon square pluto, my mom and i just don't like eachother. i've always had problems with her. but i'd give her a kidney if she'd want to even thought she'd probably reject it.

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posted December 02, 2011 10:47 AM            

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It saddens me to no end to read this but it happens so often unfortunately. I wish people were more responsible with their decision to bring kids into life. But karma always bites in the a$$.

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posted December 02, 2011 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Or bring kids into life and then not like them because the kids cannot conform to some idealized image or lofty expectation.

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posted December 03, 2011 04:40 AM            

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My dad's a Pisces Sun (Like your dad!) with a Capricorn Ascendant (Like you dad!) and Capricorn North Node (as in very Capricorn). His Mars is Aries (Like your dad!) and his Venus is also Aquarius. His Saturn in Pisces. His Mercury is Aquarius. Jupiter in Saggitarius. Uranus in Taurus. Mars in House 4, Sun in 3, Jupiter in 12, Venus in 2. March 1, 1936. Explosive temper like a powder keg! (Like your dad!) He used to throw things out of his office room at his staff and yell at them down the whole floor, plus fire people on the spot, complete with profanity laced speech. Back then, the boss was also the emperor and could do anything he wanted.

The similarities are freaky weird![/B]

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*speechless*

Scary.

If his Saturn in Pisces is conjunct your Pisces ascendant, HORRIFYING. Not only because it's a horrible suffocating synastry aspect, but because my dad's Saturn in Virgo is conjunct my Ascendant in Virgo.

And you and I also have Saturn (Capricornian figure, maybe father figure) in the 12th (secret enemies).

posted December 03, 2011 08:55 AM            

Thank you so much!
March 1, 1936, 7:55 pm, Penang, Malaysia, +7:30 or +8:00 GMT
December 28, 1963, 10:43 am, Singapore, Singapore, +7:30 or +8:00 GMT.

The switch to +8 was long after both of us were born, but many online software models cannot calculate :30. It's simplier where my mom was born because it was always +8:00 GMT, but I don't know her true birth time... Sigh. Of course, when my parents were born, the f@$king Japanese imposed their f@$king +9:00 JST via oppression and genocide, but we're not going by that crap.

Mother (deceased) was September 17, 1939. Time unknown but at first light dawn, Jakarta, Indonesia.