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Topic: Cancer Mercury...
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Fondue Knight
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From: NY
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 02, 2011 09:15 PM
  
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
fondue - That is exactly why!! Very good point.. The only point I have read so far - that I would say matters.
My Merc/Jup are in Pisces. Synastry matters people!
If you don't get someone - it is because you are different individuals with a different set of significant signs/aspects..
One could say "It's not them.. It's you!"
But in truth - [b]It's both of you and your interaction  [/B]
PREACH SISTER. There's so much generalization going on around here singling out one planet in one sign, etc. Aspects in the natal chart and in synastry cannot be ignored in favor of stereotypes and generalizations! IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 01:19 AM
Hey, I just wanted to know how to logically decipher a Cancer Mercury, that's all. I understand that my synastry with her isn't the best, but I also have a boyfriend with Cancer Mercury, and I noticed the same habit with him as well. I don't see why everyone has to be mad at me because I mentioned one sign and one placement. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
OH MEE GOSH!!She has Mercury closely conjunct Uranus.. and you 'forgot' to tell us that little piece of information? LOL
I did forget. I'm sorry, but you don't need to LOL at someone who forgot something. It's a little rude to condescend to me over a mistake. No one is perfect. That LOL did hurt my feelings because I DID forget. I don't appreciate it at all. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
PREACH SISTER.There's so much generalization going on around here singling out one planet in one sign, etc. Aspects in the natal chart and in synastry cannot be ignored in favor of stereotypes and generalizations!
I don't see how I stereotyped. Did I say that all Cancer Mercuries are this... All Cancer Mercuries are that? I stated my two most intimate examples of how my interactions with Cancer Mercury becomes lost in translation. A general COMMONALITY between my experiences with Cancer Mercury is that we don't know how to convey emotions and thoughts to each other - when upset. I'm sure a Pisces Mercury would understand a Cancer Mercury better than I because I don't pick up on emotional cues. I take words for face value. I am a Gemini Mercury. I said that I don't understand Cancer Mercuries for one reason or another and I need HELP finding a way to TRANSLATE. That's all. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 01:23 AM
I'll also have to say that all of us throughout the forum need to watch our attitudes. I've noticed a lot of overly combative language used by everyone, including myself. We're a forum of peace, not competition. I will make an active effort to create balance in the way I approach people I do not know with words.IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 01:34 AM
@FondueKnightI forgot to say thank you for the interpretation between my mother and I. I really do. I've always known that our synastry is rough. I've always known her chart is rough. However, I still have trouble with Cancer Mercury, in a general sense. I dated a few, I'm dating one now, and I grew up with one. The same problem has persisted, which is that, synastry and aspects aside, everything between us gets "lost in translation" when things get heated. "Everything" being steps needed to be taken, overall causes of frustration, etc. Details seem to get lost. I would just like a sort of.. ROSETTA'S STONE between us. Just a simple GENERAL TRANSLATION between my Gemini Mercury and your Cancer Mercury. It would help me immensely. We are neighbors, afterall. That's all. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 02:02 AM
Por ejemplo, I know that Cancer Mercury, aspects aside, often remember things by what emotions were accuring that time. When my boyfriend and I get into a fight, we try to separate and come back to the issue later in the day. When we reconvene, he often brings up emotions that he felt but he sometimes doesn't remembers his actions that were a product of those emotions. My mother does the same thing when she's upset.So when we're trying to come to a resolution to whatever issue we had at hand at the time, it usually becomes painstaking to come to a conclusive thesis on 'Why did we fight?" He'll often focus on the emotions on hand, while I often focus on actions. For example, he was mad at me because he mentioned that he had a great day. I was a bit busy, so I just said, "That's great baby! I'm glad you had a good day" and kept on working on whatever it is I was working on. He felt that I didn't care because I didn't express myself emotionally, just through words. He felt that I was indifferent, which hurt his feelings. I felt that he was being overemotional because I felt that my words were positive and reassuring even though the mood I was giving off didn't change with elation. I do care, but I didn't think I needed to jump for joy when my words were reflective of my happiness for him. At the end, we concluded that I should try to convey my emotions through actions rather than just words. For example, stopping what I'm doing to physically communicate my happiness for him. A hug, a kiss, etc. I think he was also offended that I wasn't giving him my full attention. Also, we concluded that he shouldn't read "between the lines" so much and know that my words should be taken for "face value", so to speak. I also think my Libra Moon in the 1st makes me seem "even" when it comes to how my emotions are communicated. The meaning and degree of my words will change, however the vibe I give off does not change. I often give off a neutral vibe. My tone does not often change either, unless I get VERY upset. That's the best example I can bring up. It's probably the most simple example of LOST IN TRANSLATION situations between myself and Cancer Mercury. There are plenty of heavier issues that were just simply let go because we couldn't come to a conclusive solution. I'll think of others later. IP: Logged |
Fondue Knight
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Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 03, 2011 02:02 AM
I wasn't trying to single you out, I was just excited that Betty made that point. And the stereotype comment was definitely not directed at anything in this thread. I blame the Merc Retro. I've just seen so many posts lately that are focused solely on Planet A in Sign Z DISCUSS. Once people bring in their personal examples, it usually does end up relating to their synastry. I'm sure I experience my Cancer Mercury differently than others because I don't have any harsh aspects to my Merc. There'll be similarities, for sure, but I guess I feel like the discussion should go deeper. I should have someone analyze my chart to see why I'm so bothered by these generalizations.  And you're welcome re: the chart. I'm here to learn and while I'm still pretty much just a n00b, I've picked up a ton of knowledge just from posting here and looking at different charts. I really appreciate the opportunity to give a shot at interpretation. I also think I have trouble thinking of a general translation because I have a Virgo Moon -- I jump into the details and can't see the forest from the trees. It's just all based on emotions with the Cancer; things can't be taken at face value. In my case, there's always a fear of rejection, confrontation or being wrong when it comes to not being straight-forward when I communicate, but I'm not completely sure if it's true for most Cancer Mercs. I've got a nice Moon/Uranus square and a t-square involving Saturn/Jupiter/Venus, so intimacy scares the bejesus out of me and I've got some confidence issues.  Anyway, I'm rambling on. I'm sorry if it came off as an attack on you above; totally not my intention. IP: Logged |
Fondue Knight
Knowflake Posts: 819
From: NY
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 03, 2011 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Por ejemplo, I know that Cancer Mercury, aspects aside, often remember things by what emotions were accuring that time. When my boyfriend and I get into a fight, we try to separate and come back to the issue later in the day. When we reconvene, he often brings up emotions that he felt but he sometimes doesn't remembers his actions that were a product of those emotions. My mother does the same thing when she's upset.So when we're trying to come to a resolution to whatever issue we had at hand at the time, it usually becomes painstaking to come to a conclusive thesis on 'Why did we fight?" He'll often focus on the emotions on hand, while I often focus on actions. For example, he was mad at me because he mentioned that he had a great day. I was a bit busy, so I just said, "That's great baby! I'm glad you had a good day" and kept on working on whatever it is I was working on. He felt that I didn't care because I didn't express myself emotionally, just through words. He felt that I was indifferent, which hurt his feelings. I felt that he was being overemotional because I felt that my words were positive and reassuring even though the mood I was giving off didn't change with elation. I do care, but I didn't think I needed to jump for joy when my words were reflective of my happiness for him. At the end, we concluded that I should try to convey my emotions through actions rather than just words. For example, stopping what I'm doing to physically communicate my happiness for him. A hug, a kiss, etc. I think he was also offended that I wasn't giving him my full attention. Also, we concluded that he shouldn't read "between the lines" so much and know that my words should be taken for "face value", so to speak. I also think my Libra Moon in the 1st makes me seem "even" when it comes to how my emotions are communicated. The meaning and degree of my words will change, however the vibe I give off does not change. I often give off a neutral vibe. My tone does not often change either, unless I get VERY upset. That's the best example I can bring up. It's probably the most simple example of LOST IN TRANSLATION situations between myself and Cancer Mercury. There are plenty of heavier issues that were just simply let go because we couldn't come to a conclusive solution. I'll think of others later.
Yeah, I think you've hit on the big difference there. The Cancer needs to see you giving your attention, otherwise words are just words if we can't see the intent behind them. We read body language and all that. And the other point you hit on is that we absolutely will read much further into everything than is likely healthy. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 02:42 AM
No problemo. I can get a bit defensive. I am Cancer, afterall.Words are very important to me. I often get mad at my boyfriend because I feel that his choice of words speak more than his actions sometimes, yet he doesn't seem to really notice degree, like using the word hate vs dislike. Sigh. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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From: Betty Boop Land
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 03, 2011 04:12 AM
ElizabethO -It wasn't a Bart Simpson.. "HA HA" *point* kind of "LOL"! It was more like a surprised: "HA! No waaay! She has Merc/Uranus.. of course that's your answer right there!" 
Sorry if it sounded nasty. It really was not intended to be. IP: Logged |
Purrr
Knowflake Posts: 186
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Registered: Jun 2011
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posted December 03, 2011 04:22 AM
Darn Merchury Rx! GRR...
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ElizabethO
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posted December 03, 2011 04:51 AM
Argh, I forgot my cell phone has Purrr saved for LG. Dragged myself out of my warm bed to get on the computer to clarify. Damn you Merc RX again!Purrr is me. I am ElizabethO. Therefore Purrr = ElizabethO. Carry on. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted December 03, 2011 07:33 AM
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