posted December 01, 2011 11:12 PM            

Whenever my mother gets upset, she just goes on a rambling tirade and I literally cannot dissect anything she says. Conversations go around in circles, and the story. NEVER. ENDS. She has Cancer Sun + Gemini Moon + Cancer Mercury.

My boyfriend never says anything directly. I constantly have to ask for details or rewind the conversation so I can pick up keywords or nuances. He constantly contradicts himself because his moods are moving faster than the words he's trying very hard to keep to himself. If we were playing charades, he would be the best at it for god knows what reason, and I would just be sitting there wondering how a "Dog" meant "Full House"... Cancer Sun + Leo Moon + Cancer Mercury.

posted December 01, 2011 11:20 PM            

My ex had Mercury in Cancer with a Leo sun. Never. again. I can't even get started on it just...Leo and Cancer placements... no. To a Taurus moon and Mercury in Aries all the dramatics and mind games aren't cute. I don't have time for that.

Finally, my best friend has Mercury in Scorpio. Out of all of them, I understand her the best it seems. She does worry a lot but I can deal with that. She also understands my way of thinking. I wonder if it's 'cause both of our Mercury signs are ruled by Mars...

posted December 01, 2011 11:27 PM            

It's hard for me to shoot from the hip when I'm upset. If I'm stuck in an argument, I always end up letting the other party rattle on and on because I need to THINK and formulate what I'm going to say -- taking into account how I and the other party might feel about everything. In my case, I like to have a well structured argument and I need the time to put it together. When I have a moment to gather myself before discussing something I can be extremely articulate, but if I'm flustered all bets are off. I don't cry, though, just make a face and remain silent until I can gather myself.

posted December 01, 2011 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
For some reason I attract a lot of water mercuries. I don't know why because they are the hardest to understand. My mom has Mercury in Pisces, doesn't give a ___ about her tone when she talks to me but complains about mine, tells me I have trouble communicating but she seems to be a little slow in understanding what I'm saying.

My ex had Mercury in Cancer with a Leo sun. Never. again. I can't even get started on it just...Leo and Cancer placements... no. To a Taurus moon and Mercury in Aries all the dramatics and mind games aren't cute. I don't have time for that.

Finally, my best friend has Mercury in Scorpio. Out of all of them, I understand her the best it seems. She does worry a lot but I can deal with that. She also understands my way of thinking. I wonder if it's 'cause both of our Mercury signs are ruled by Mars...

Mercury in Cancer will play dumb but they know exactly what you're talking about and what you mean. They step sideways when faced directly, so approach them sideways otherwise they'll retreat or won't give you the honest answer. In a way, I view Cancers as the most accurate portrayal of men (hear me out) because social/body language/psychologists suggest when wanting to have a serious talk with a man, talk to him while sitting side by side instead of in front. This has to do with the fact a confrontation feels more threatening and challenging to men when being faced head on. When you're literally "on their side" they feel more at ease.

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posted December 02, 2011 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
Cancer Sun/Virgo Moon/Cancer Mercury here

It's hard for me to shoot from the hip when I'm upset. If I'm stuck in an argument, I always end up letting the other party rattle on and on because I need to THINK and formulate what I'm going to say -- taking into account how I and the other party might feel about everything. In my case, I like to have a well structured argument and I need the time to put it together. When I have a moment to gather myself before discussing something I can be extremely articulate, but if I'm flustered all bets are off. I don't cry, though, just make a face and remain silent until I can gather myself.

Out of curiosity, what are your placements that you have such difficulty communicating with us Cancer Mercuries?

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I am: Cancer Sun, Libra Moon, Gemini Mercury, Gemini Venus, Pisces Mars.

Ugh, I just don't understand any of you, lol. Not personality-wise, but communication-wise. I say that because I know a lot of Cancers with Cancer Mercury either from my generation or my mother's friends. I just cannot follow the logic when you guys are upset... because often I feel like there really is none. Everything gets loopy and my head starts to hurt and I always just feel such a sense of defeat because I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELLLL MEEEEEE.

I.E. My mom got into a car accident and starting telling me about the car, then the party she was late to which is why she was frazzled, that the lady seemed shady but she didn't know waht to do, etc etc. WOMAN. Details. Coherent thoughts. PLEASE..WHO.WHAT.WHY.HOW.WHERE.WHEN. AND WHAT DO YOU WANT *ME* TO DO?

posted December 02, 2011 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:

Interesting! thanks for the tip. anytime you say "we should talk" they freak out is my experience...... how else can you have a talk with them without them thinking its a bad thing/confrontational.

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posted December 02, 2011 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
I just cannot follow the logic when you guys are upset... because often I feel like there really is none. Everything gets loopy and my head starts to hurt and I always just feel such a sense of defeat because I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELLLL MEEEEEE.

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And now you understand how Cancer Mercuries win arguments: turn your opponents' brains to mush with incoherence!

I kid; mostly because I don't do that. Maybe it's my Virgo Moon, but like I said above, I don't fly into hysterics. I remain silent until I can piece together a coherent thought.

posted December 02, 2011 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:

I.E. My mom got into a car accident and starting telling me about the car, then the party she was late to which is why she was frazzled, that the lady seemed shady but she didn't know waht to do, etc etc. WOMAN. Details. Coherent thoughts. PLEASE..WHO.WHAT.WHY.HOW.WHERE.WHEN. AND WHAT DO YOU WANT *ME* TO DO?

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posted December 02, 2011 01:38 AM            

First, you've both got air moons, but yours is ruled by Venus and hers is ruled by Mercury. When Gemini (Mercury) moon gets upset, all of that Mercurial energy makes them frazzled. They need (moon) to verbalize (Gemini), but they're worked up with that nervous energy so things don't necessarily make sense. Libra moon would probably be less frazzled in this situation and need to look at the facts and, since it's a Cardinal sign, look to do something about it.

posted December 02, 2011 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
Okay, I'm super tired so I hope this isn't completely incoherent, BUT I think there are two issues at play here.

First, you've both got air moons, but yours is ruled by Venus and hers is ruled by Mercury. When Gemini (Mercury) moon gets upset, all of that Mercurial energy makes them frazzled. They need (moon) to verbalize (Gemini), but they're worked up with that nervous energy so things don't necessarily make sense. Libra moon would probably be less frazzled in this situation and need to look at the facts and, since it's a Cardinal sign, look to do something about it.

Second, your Mercuries are in totally different elements. Trust me here because I am a Cancer Sun/Mercury/Mars... Wanting sympathy is a very Cancerian thing. It's very possible that in her mind she is verbalizing all of this to you in the hopes that you will feel bad for her. Cancer Mercury isn't straight-forward. We won't tell you we want your sympathy. Given her Gemini Moon, this is how she is trying to appeal to your emotions because that's how she knows to process her emotions. It might look like she just wants an audience to you because your thought processes are along the lines of Airy Gemini -- she's not making sense. With a water Mercury (at least Cancer, anyway), there's usually an agenda behind what we communicate, and you're gonna have to read between the lines.

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posted December 02, 2011 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Muchos gracias for your reply! I do appreciate it. A lot of it makes sense. I do think she wants a little sympathy, but if you knew my mother lol you'd know that she just wants an audience to talk to... she needs attention much more than sympathy. It's very taxing. She REALLY loves to tell her stories... She gets a bit lonely now that my brother and I are gone, so I think she's starved for attention. She's also the ultimate drama queen, but that's a different post for a different day.

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posted December 02, 2011 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Not quite. Her moon is still in Gemini by 3 minutes? I think...

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Doesn't matter, the orb is still barely less than a degree. Even if you don't count the Moon as conjunct, Sun conj Venus is going to give you her vain side -- the part that wants an audience. Mercury conjunct Uranus is probably why she makes zero sense to you. Uranus is fusing its eccentric energy with Mercury's.

posted December 02, 2011 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
That interp was fantastic! Very spot on. She's very intelligent (used to quiz me when I was 7 on how to calculate clearance + sales tax while we were clothes shopping... for her), but has a ridiculous, god-like perception of it, as well. Considering I don't understand half of what she says when she's upset, we get into a lot of verbal squabbles. She also has one HELL of a temper.

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posted December 02, 2011 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
"Cancer mercury isn't straight-forward etc etc."

So they expect people to just know their needs and wants without being direct and just asking/telling? Is that even applicable to the real world? How is anyone supposed to know a cancers need in general if they won't ever come out with it in the near-future?

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posted December 02, 2011 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
"Cancer mercury isn't straight-forward etc etc."

So they expect people to just know their needs and wants without being direct and just asking/telling? Is that even applicable to the real world? How is anyone supposed to know a cancers need in general if they won't ever come out with it in the near-future?

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posted December 02, 2011 06:42 PM            

She has Mercury closely conjunct Uranus.. and you 'forgot' to tell us that little piece of information?

posted December 02, 2011 06:47 PM            

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That's why a Cancer Mercury would be trine a Pisces Mercury and square an Aries Mercury.

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That is exactly why!! Very good point.. The only point I have read so far - that I would say matters.
My Merc/Jup are in Pisces.