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mintgirl123
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posted December 02, 2011 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo, Aries or Scorpio?

Who is most determined?

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posted December 02, 2011 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 02, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You think Cap makes the best leader? WHy?

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posted December 02, 2011 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap,Mars' exaltation,they r professional and know all the managing skills.

Btw,I have read recently,there is a company in China that put in their seaching new empoyees ads -Virgos ans Scorpios need not apply - And who leads the desirable bunch? Cappy!

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posted December 02, 2011 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really depends on what you mean by leader and power (in my ideal world, Pisces would make the best leader, but not in this one).

Capricorn is an earth sign, it's less emotional than the signs you cited - not that they wouldn't make the list.

Cap cares more about status and earthly power that the others (associated with the 10th house). Aries would give up because the system is not conforming to his ideal (or whatever, bored), Leo would trash the money on expensive cars and Scorpio would feel paranoid about being in the spotlight.

Capricorn has stamina. Leo and Scorp outdo Aries on stamina; in a fight, my guess is that Scorp and Cap would be that last two standing and then Scorpio would get emotional and lose.

Last but not least, the cardinal energy give good leadership potential because they like to initiate things.

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posted December 02, 2011 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Btw,I have read recently,there is a company in China that put in their seaching new empoyees ads -Virgos ans [b]Scorpios need not apply - And who leads the desirable bunch? Cappy![/B]

ROFL, why not Virgos? They are like poster children for employee of the month

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posted December 02, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently they r too fussy. Argumentative,I mean
And China is an economic force,maybe we should follow the example!

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posted December 02, 2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn's can be alittle too rigid at times, and not great at adapting quickly to different situations? And they aren't as inspiring as the typical Leo?

LOL ^ that ad's sth I gotta see. Guess the boss had bad experience with Virgos.

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posted December 02, 2011 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a virgo and yes, virgo's can be alittle critical at times. But fussy and argumentative? Wtf virgos are like Libras, we don't like to rock the boat.

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posted December 02, 2011 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Leo, Aries or Scorpio?

Who is most determined?


Most determined is probably Scorp. Aries is a close second but I think that once the Aries throws in the towel the Scorp would still be going.

Was it Isabel Hickey who said "Capricorns lead by delegated authority, but Leos rule by Divine Right?"

I look at it more as, it depends on what you ultimate goal is. If you're strictly about getting as much productivity out of the workers/followers as possible, the bottom line, and income, get a Cap. The drill-sargeant archetype.

If it's not a business-related endeavor or income isn't the main focus to you, get a Leo - remember the sign is associated with the heart and is known for being big-hearted and its generosity as well as being more socially adept than Capricorn. The benevolent leader type that will be chatty and focus more on the workers and how they're feeling.

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posted December 02, 2011 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by maira:
It really depends on what you mean by leader and power (in my ideal world, Pisces would make the best leader, but not in this one).

Capricorn is an earth sign, it's less emotional than the signs you cited - not that they wouldn't make the list.

Cap cares more about status and earthly power that the others (associated with the 10th house). Aries would give up because the system is not conforming to his ideal (or whatever, bored), Leo would trash the money on expensive cars and Scorpio would feel paranoid about being in the spotlight.

Capricorn has stamina. Leo and Scorp outdo Aries on stamina; in a fight, my guess is that Scorp and Cap would be that last two standing and then Scorpio would get emotional and lose.

Last but not least, the cardinal energy give good leadership potential because they like to initiate things.


Wow, I didn't even see this post before I wrote mine, but we said almost the same thing in some place. Agree with you on Cap.

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posted December 02, 2011 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap and Scorpio

Aries not a good leader
Fixed signs make the best leaders
Next to fixed comes Capricorn. Dependable mature and calm.

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posted December 02, 2011 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They say that Cardinal signs actually make the best leaders, fixed signs are the "behind the scenes" people or good seconds in command.

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posted December 02, 2011 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpio.

aries jump into situations. good for expansion and growing companies.

leo would prefer to be the best known rather than the best.

i'm cool with cap. cancers can be great leaders too IMO.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Leo, Aries or Scorpio?

Who is most determined?


The three are very determined but who would make the best leader, Leo. Leo doesn't like to be bossed around so when they reach a position of authority they treat who is under them with tact and respect. They understand that respect is important to get the most out of a team and lead often by example. Scorpios are a bit of loners, great for working for themselves but they are not team oriented so they can get far on their own with determination. Aries although very driven and with a contagious and optimistic energy that rubs are good at starting things more than leading. As leaders they can make a few mistakes due to impulsivity when dealing with others and or running a business. If I was an aries I would start companies and then sell them to someone else like a Taurus lol. aries are fast thinkers and have a bunch of good ideas and are highly motivated so they could start companies that would do well but they will make more money if they sell the companies after they start them in the long run I feel. They are initiators and get bored after a while and need a new challenge anyways so selling what they start works out in many levels for this sign . Leo is fixed so is better with things that require sticking around.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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scorpio.

aries jump into situations. good for expansion and growing companies.

leo would prefer to be the best known rather than the best.

i'm cool with cap. cancers can be great leaders too IMO.


Yeah I Like cancers as leaders very much.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron Paul, Obama, Clinton all are Leos!

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posted December 03, 2011 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Cancers are too moody and don't have the best control over their emotions to be a great leader. Leaders should be abit more rational.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think Cancers are too moody and don't have the best control over their emotions to be a great leader. Leaders should be abit more rational.

I have noticed that cancers when it comes to work are a complete different story from their personal life. They keep the two usually at least most of them separate and I have observed a lot of cancers at the work place, they never start drama and get along with everyone and contribute to a positive environment at work.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Security is extremely important to cancers so they make sure that they are very professional at work so they can get promoted and get raises. Cancers are good at saving and accumulating money.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ serious?? My cancer ex spent hundreds on useless shh lol. He was useless with saving money.
Designer clothes and crap like that was one of his loves.

Don't get me wrong, I like to buy designer stuff myself, but when you don't even have a stable job, doing pretty crappy at school...the LAST thing you want to do is spending hundreds on unnecessary things! He was insecure, so I guess used clothes as a partial way to compensate lol!

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posted December 03, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great leader places the needs of his followers (as a whole) above his own. Truly does so, not just pretend.

So I think Aquarius - and I'm talking about the archetype here, not an individual who would be a mix of signs - would make the best leader, since the Sun (ego) is in detriment here. It would be in the Aquarian nature to truly work towards the collective aim and not towards the ulterior motives that the other signs are driven by (e.g. Scorpio wants power and control, Capricorn wants authority and respect, Leo wants fame, Taurus wants riches...).

Aquarius is also logical and fair-minded to boot. Able to tolerate differences and see the humanity underlying all. It is loyal to its ideals and wouldn't be swayed by flattery and bribery.

I wish there were more Aquarian leaders but I guess they're just too ahead of their time and aren't ambitious or ruthless enough to claw their way to the top.

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posted December 03, 2011 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wish there were more Aquarian leaders but I guess they're just too ahead of their time and aren't ambitious or ruthless enough to claw their way to the top.

I agree. I honestly think they're the only ones in the whole zodiac including Libra's (I'm one myself) I'd be willing to walk behind. They always think of the greater good and I think that's the most important part of being a leader. They are the most impartial and qualified yet you'll never see many of them leading because they just aren't interested, which just makes them even more endearing.

Personally I think we should do away with all leaders, presidents, prime minsters, politicians etc. And any form of authority or social or political hierarchical systems. I think we should all be in charge of leading ourselves, period. ANARCHY!

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posted December 03, 2011 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Personally I think we should do away with all leaders, presidents, prime minsters, politicians etc. And any form of authority or social or political hierarchical systems. I think we should all being in charge of leading ourselves, period. ANARCHY!

AMEN TO THAT!! Power to the people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog&ob=av2n
^ "Uprising" by Muse

I like the way they do it in China. If a government official is found guilty of corruption, he's shot point blank in the head and the invoice for the bullet is mailed to the family for raising a traitor.

Ok I would definitely not be good as a leader...too much Venus in Scorpio venom lol.

But seriously if some of our recent leaders had any honor at all they would shoot themselves in the head. That's what the last South Korean president did after he mistakenly accepted a bribe. He was an Aquarius. Didn't even have a college education but studied for and passed the Korean bar on his own and was a lawyer before becoming president. Add that to the list: Aquarius is an air sign so is ruled by the intellect.

And another plus: Aquarius lives way too much in its head to be prone to sex scandals.


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posted December 03, 2011 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capri and Joan both make excellent points! but want to point out that Ron Paul must have some aquarian influence in addition to having sun in leo for the following reasons:

"Ron Paul has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership. He has never voted to raise congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He voted against the Patriot Act. He voted against regulating the Internet. He voted against the Iraq war. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year. Ron Paul is the only candidate who predicted and warned against the economic crisis, who understood and explained the reasons for it, and who offers a viable solution. He has written books on Austrian Economics and understands the economy better than any candidate out there after 35 years of service with an unblemished record. He is "The Lone Wolf on Capitol Hill" for a reason, he cannot be bought and lobbyists know not to even knock on his door. If you refer to Ron Paul as a nut, then I assume his hardcore supporters are as well, if that is the case remember that Dr. Paul has received more than double of all the other candidates combined in military donations an amount exceeding $32,000. Our military largely respects and supports him, are they nuts? (maybe from dodging bullets and treading lightly over ground covered in bombs) Try actually researching him before mimicking mainstream media or friends. "Crazy uncle Ron", going on and on about protecting our freedoms under the constitution and bill of rights.... ... Answer this: Who is your candidate of choice bought by? What is their record of voting and flip flopping? Have they remained firm for over 35 years, uncorrupted by donations from corporations? Why are they running, do they truly care about change, The People or the US Constitution? Do your own research as I have, it is not only your right but your responsibility. Do the research, change...be a part of it." ~ Written by Christy French ~

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