posted December 15, 2011 12:41 AM            

I don't tend to attract trouble per say however people do tend to get aggressive with me and it sometimes feels like their out to get me (Mars in the 1st).

I've had numerous instances with authority, it never ends. But only one or so related to the law. Once I was pulled over by a cop after going under a green light turning yellow. Scouts honor it was NOT red. The police officer yards in front of me in another lane to boot had already driven through the traffic light (meaning he wasn't behind me and therefore couldn't even see the actual light change). When I pulled up next to him at the next light, he looked at me and I looked ahead and when the light changed for me to go he turned on his police car siren and had me pull over. It was nuts. The first time I'd ever been any where near a police officer in my life and I was 17. He claimed I went through a red light yet he had no proof because he was driving in another lane cars in front of me. He asked me if the car was stolen or if I owned it. After proving it was mine, through providing my license and registration (it was a gift from my parents) he got nice with me and gave me a reduced amount ticket.

I was infuriated, I'm multicultural and I don't know if it's the Uranian energy I send out to the world or just plan prejudices however there was no plausible reason in my mind for being randomly pulled over. It was the beginning of my strong dislike for the corruption of the system. I hate authority, restrictive systems and hierarchical social constructs. I'd love nothing more then to see all these rigid laws crumble. Rant over.

posted December 15, 2011 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
^ I have Sag Saturn/Uranus inconjunct Taurus Jupiter. It's actually a heavy aspect in my chart. It all makes sense now.

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posted December 15, 2011 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
The 9th house is the place for legal/police matters. I guess the natal position is important, but would plump for current transits between house rulers 1 and 9. Positive aspects would get off lightly, while negative aspects would get into trouble.

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Interesting.....

His 1st house ruler is saturn which squares jupiter natally and his saturn conjuncts venus in his natal which is the ruler of his 9th house.

Transit Saturn is transiting his 9th house in Libra right now. He is on probation right now but hasn't done the requirements yet and I believe he should have by now so he is procrastinating with this.

Do you think he will get it together and do what he has to get the requirements met even though this is clearly a scam to create revenue and he really shouldn't' be on probation?? I wan him to face what he has to so can move on with his life. This is kind of causing him a lot of stress and putting things on hold for him. Will he face it and overcome this legal stuff? What do you think?

posted December 15, 2011 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
I'm sure it's a combination of both. Even when I was little, I was always up to mischief. My mom would lock rooms, and I would find ways to unlock them. Fiddle with the locks... find the keys. My father's favorite story of me as a little girl was when I unscrewed my entire playpen. He came home one day to find all four walls dismantled and me crawling around the house.

Even now, I love to break rules that I think are silly, like making an illegal U-turn or jay-walking. I've always had this urge to test authority's limits.

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LOL I like you! You sound like fun. I hate those do not make an U turn signs myself with a passion and ignore them when I see fit LOL.

posted December 15, 2011 05:22 AM            

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Would having mars as strongest planet and Aries as strongest planet do this?
and if you know of any what are some astrological indicators that keep you from getting caught when breaking the law?

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i have mars and aries as dominants. never really done anything illegal enough to warrant jail time.. i think.

posted December 15, 2011 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
By trouble with the law I mean more like arrests, probation, and jail time even if for something stupid and very briefly. I am looking for astrological indicators that makes some people get caught over and over again for stupid things and then end up paying more than its fair bc the court system is super strict. The USA is the country with the most people in jail in the world!

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I hear what your saying Amelia, however I think anything in relation to the law is relative to the law itself. We can't compartmentalize everything based on our subjective understanding or preferences. According to restrictive laws imposed by the state and federal government, simple actions such as jaywalking, tickets from unlawful driving, indecent exposure, minor actions classifiable to misdemeanors in a court are considered just as unlawful as felonies.

Therefore breaking a law any law is considered unlawful, even getting tickets or being fined for littering. The problem I see in relation to the assessment of whom is prone to conflict with the law is relative to our understanding of human nature. We limit who we are and our instincts in response to the restrictive laws that have been imposed in our societies. Therefore it would seem as though individuals who are more in touch with their human instincts or willing to express those instincts are more likely to continuously come into conflict with the law itself, because the laws in fact are meant to suppress our human instinctual nature. Even those given power to uphold the law, continuously break it, it's in our nature.

posted December 15, 2011 02:40 PM            

There are a loooooot of people who break the law and do not get caught and that is bc they are super cautious and exercise good judgement on how they go about their business.

This thread is dedicated more to people who end up in probation or arrested..attract getting caught. Not for people who get tickets while driving bc that is a lot of people these days with cops giving out tickets to create revenue for their respective states.

If you got a DUI which resulted in you getting arrested or probation, that would be material for this thread. But a ticket which lead to a mere fine and that is it, not material for this thread.

posted December 15, 2011 07:27 PM            

This makes me think of people in Jail who are innocent and its a case of set up and been at a specific place at the wrong time.

I imagine that this cases is a result of natal aspects such as jupiter/saturn stressful aspects combined with transits such as saturn transiting the first or jupiter/saturn transit (kind of like a double whammy).

posted December 15, 2011 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
A grand trine tends to be lucky in general and attract blessings and breaks in life, im not sure if the planets/signs its in make this more or less so. But I do know that mine has been extremely lucky. I lived a very wild life for over 10 years and when everyone was caught/punished I always walked away unscathed. My grand trine is in earth and its connected to my asc(environment) im wondering if this is why.

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You are lucky .

Husband has a grand trine between his ascendent, pluto and mercury!

He drove with suspended license for 5 years bc he didn't pay for a ticket and didn't get caught once.

He got a ticket the other day which the cop followed him for 5 minutes waiting for him to do something wrong and pulled him over for not signalling right to get in a right lane that leads up a hill.

He ended up giving him a ticket for driving without insurance for which the day after I enrolled him to mine and come court date provided proof to DA that insurance was acquired quickly after incident and his ticket was dismissed and he didn't have to pay a fine. He usually doesn't get caught for things and when he does it typically gets resolved very quickly to his favor.

Hi has:
Jupiter semisextile venus
Jupiter sextile Mars
Jupiter conjunct Saturn
Jupiter sextile Uranus
Jupiter square neptune